RIP Coach Carnesecca

Dal975 said:
Speaking of Glass, the other night I went down a you tube rabbit hole and stumbled across SJU v. UNC ECAC Holiday Festival game from 12/29/83. Great first half, UNC ended up pulling away and winning 64-51. Outrageous amount of talent on the floor. UNC started 4 NBA players including you know who and Matt Doherty. That was one season before my SJU consciousness truly kicked in (I was 8 at the time). Couple of takeaways for me were how Louie went with the freshman Mark Jackson over Mike Moses for long stretches when the game was close, that could have been based on matchups in that particular game but I had thought Moses was the alpha over Jackson (frequently to our detriment) for the entirety of their overlap. Was also surprised to see Bob Antonelli (!) get some run. Also, was fun to watch the freshman Glass try to guard MJ; I have always thought of Willie as in the elite tier of our best wing defenders ever, unfortunately and understandably there was not much he could do in this instance. Another "myth" in my mind ever since I was a little kid was that Willie was MJ's cousin. No clue where I picked that up; maybe it had something to do with the dunking lol. Does anybody know if that is actually true?
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There was a bogus rumor in which Glass was a relative of James Worthy.
 
SJU85 said:
Goodwin was the 3rd option behind Mullin and Russell his last two years.

Glass was the 3rd option his junior year behind Berry and Rowan and he and Jackson were options 1 or 2 his last year.

Having seen both, I stand by my earlier opinion.
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Dave those teams also had Shelton Jones who was a pretty good option too.
 
SJU85 said:
Not the exact specifics but I do recall a block shot and Chris retrieving the ball, scoring and being fouled.

Also recall the Holiday Festival Championship where we played Nova and won. Chris spent a good part of the game guarding Easy Ed. They are good friends.
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I have that game and that play on VHS. Pinckney blocked Chris 2 times in a row I believe, but Chris wasn't to be denied, and finally scored and was fouled. Pinckney stormed away totally baffled at how Chris scored on him. if I can dig out the tape, I'll try to figure out a way to post it
 
redmannorth said:
Mean Gene, whatever you are smoking please put it down.
Billy was a third team BE player, who did everything very well.
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Very similar statistically as Mase pointed out. Both made 3rd team all Big East. Each had their strengths. Glass was the superior athlete while Goodwin as you said did everything well. A matter of preference really depending on who else is on the team and what role you that player to fill at that time. I loved Goodwin also.
 
Mean Gene said:
Very similar statistically as Mase pointed out. Both made 3rd team all Big East. Each had their strengths. Glass was the superior athlete while Goodwin as you said did everything well. A matter of preference really depending on who else is on the team and what role you that player to fill at that time. I loved Goodwin also.
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I’ll go with Billy Goodwin (I’m biased as the 82-83 team is my fav of all time). Both are Big East Tournament champions that had the best view of MSG upon celebration.

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redmannorth said:
Dave those teams also had Shelton Jones who was a pretty good option too.
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Yes he was but Shelton averaged I think 8.6 ppg Willie’s 3rd year putting him fifth IIRC behind Walter, Ron Rowan, Mark and Willie.

Mark was the leading scorer at 18ppg with Willie second at around 16th their senior year with Shelton 3rd at about 14.5 ppg.
 
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monte said:
I was wrong, Pinkey only stuffed Mullin once before Mullin schooled him. Love Pinkney's reaction after Mullin scores. Sorry for poor quality

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If the vid you found was only once then not the play I remember. Pretty sure it was senior year. Mullin attempted a short put in on the left side from maybe 5 feet and Pinckney definitely blocked it at least twice before Mullin scored. Thanks for posting this tho.

I won't discount possibility of faulty memory.
 
monte said:
I was wrong, Pinkey only stuffed Mullin once before Mullin schooled him. Love Pinkney's reaction after Mullin scores. Sorry for poor quality

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Wow, such great memories of the Mullin Days. He was fabulous. And from my neighborhood too! a few years younger than me.

Monte Thanks.

It brings to mind, why I could not get onboard with all of the harsh things people had to say about Mullin our coach, he put us on the map as far as modern era college basektball goes. That should never be forgotten.

Mullin being the ultimate New Yawk kid, had the City in the palm of his hand his years at St. John's.
 
BrookJersey Redmen said:
It brings to mind, why I could not get onboard with all of the harsh things people had to say about Mullin our coach, he put us on the map as far as modern era college basektball goes. That should never be forgotten.
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Preach brother! You ain't the only one. Such an embarrassingly disgraceful chapter in the history of our fandom. Perhaps it's part of the reason we remain jinxed to this day. We don't win because we've shown that we don't deserve to win?
 
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