Charleston Classic

Remember they can lose to Charleston and then win 2 against lesser opponents so the number of wins isn't as important as who they're against.
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Your pretty much talking about a field of legit BCS level teams though.
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Both the number of wins as well as who they're against counts when time to pick tourney teams. An extra win will change winning percentage of course. Let's just concentrate on beating Charleston and worry about the next one after that.
 
Are we overlooking CoC? I looked at their schedule last year, they beat Clemson on the road and gave Louisville a bigtime scare at the KFC Why Did I Eat That When I was Sh$*faced Arena. I think most of us would be very happy with a 2-1 record coming out of this weekend.
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They are no cupcake but they are certainly a team very good teams should beat. 4 quality opponents to start the season.
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Learn more from Det and Charleston than NJIT and St Francis
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Agree. This weekend will be a good test, and then apart from South Carolina (who is still pretty bad) we have about a month to fine tune things in practice and clean up our fundamentals before we face UNC Ashville and then Nova to start conference play.

I don't take anyone for granted (see, Northeastern) but after this weekend we have about a month's worth of cupcakes.

But that's another reason I'm keeping my optimism guarded. Don't forget we beat a pretty decent Lehigh team at this time last year. The same Lehigh team that would go on to knock off a 2 seed in the tournament.

Still, so far so good. I'll sign now for 2-1 this weekend.
 
Yeah, a loss to Charleston would likely have them facing Auburn and BC. Two BCS teams but two pretty bad BCS teams. Again better than playing NJIT and Bryant for sure.
 
I think we will beat Charleston. We match up with them better than people are letting on. This is not Detroit...they do not shoot from the perimeter well as per Rumble In The Garden. I would welcome teams that try to get layups off us instead of 3's or jumpers. Why? Obekpa of course...this is a guy who can easily take 10+ pts away from a team that challenges him inside. If we can defend the paint well and force them to shoot outside (which they are supposedly bad at) then I think we are fine. Keys are Obekpa and Sampson turning in a good game (especially offensively) IMO.
 
I agree, Joe3. I am more afraid of a team that can hit the 3 consistently. I suspect that CO will have fun down low on the defensive end against C of C.

Baylor, with Isaiah Austin, should present more problems inside.
 
Baylor, with Isaiah Austin, should present more problems inside.
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I watched a good bit of Baylor's first game (versus Lehigh), and Austin hung around the perimeter (he has a nice outside stroke). His points in the paint were usually on fast breaks and alley oop dunks.
 
Baylor, with Isaiah Austin, should present more problems inside.
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I watched a good bit of Baylor's first game (versus Lehigh), and Austin hung around the perimeter (he has a nice outside stroke). His points in the paint were usually on fast breaks and alley oop dunks.
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That's if Austin's ankle sprain even allows him to play.
 
Baylor, with Isaiah Austin, should present more problems inside.
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I watched a good bit of Baylor's first game (versus Lehigh), and Austin hung around the perimeter (he has a nice outside stroke). His points in the paint were usually on fast breaks and alley oop dunks.
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I hope that remains the case. I'm only assuming that a highly ranked 7 footer would be a foce down low. There is nothing more frustrating than a big man who wants to shoot 3's---unless you're Dirk Nowitzki.
 
I think we will beat Charleston. We match up with them better than people are letting on. This is not Detroit...they do not shoot from the perimeter well as per Rumble In The Garden. I would welcome teams that try to get layups off us instead of 3's or jumpers. Why? Obekpa of course...this is a guy who can easily take 10+ pts away from a team that challenges him inside. If we can defend the paint well and force them to shoot outside (which they are supposedly bad at) then I think we are fine. Keys are Obekpa and Sampson turning in a good game (especially offensively) IMO.
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Yeah, they don't have a lot of size. Only thing they have going for them is they return 6 of their top 7 and a Jr. transfer. Wocjik (sp?) is suposed to be a good coach so they'll come to play but they shot far better from 3 in their first game than they did last season.
 
Definitely going to do everything to make this trip. How's the weather down there right now Dink? How much golf can I get in? 
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It's South Carolina, Moose. One day, it could be 53 and sunny. The next day, it could be 34 and snow.

Actually, it's about 55 and sunny in Charleston, per a weather report. I would say, that is about a few degrees lower than normal for this time of the year. You could get in some golf in the entire state of South Carolina during this time of year. We rarely see any wintry precip during this time of the year, but I've seen it get cold during this time of the year.

Overall, I think you'll be fine.
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My family has lived there for a longtime ,great city My friend is down there now visiting and he gets some golf in
 
Bookies have Johnnie's getting 4 tonight which is almost pick em at a neutral site.
May be a harder game than I thought. Looks like Trent Wiedeman is the big 6'8" forward
that the Johnnies will have to stop.
 
Still no news on Marco and Orlando. I was talking to someone on the team earlier and he said no new news. still not clear to play.. We need to bring our A game all weekend..Out hustle every team out there...
 
Bookies have Johnnie's getting 4 tonight which is almost pick em at a neutral site.
May be a harder game than I thought. Looks like Trent Wiedeman is the big 6'8" forward
that the Johnnies will have to stop.
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Is that Rudy Wright?
 
PLAYERS TO WATCH

Andrew Lawrence

School: College of Charleston | Class: Senior
Position: Guard | Height: 6-1 | Weight: 185
Hometown: London, England
2011-12 Averages: 13.0 PPG, 2.9 RPG, 5.5 APG, 1.9 SPG
Career Averages: 7.6 PPG, 1.9 RPG, 2.7 APG, 1.2 SPG

The Backstory:
It's a new era at the College of Charleston, as Doug Wojcik takes over as head coach for Bobby Cremins, and Lawrence becomes the focal point of the offense following the graduation of Antawaine Wiggins. The Cougars are in good hands with the London-born point guard. Lawrence is coming off a break-out season that saw him finish just out of the top 10 in the Southern Conference in scoring, while ranking third in assists and assist-to-turnover ratio and leading the conference in steals. On a team that lived by the three (C of C was second in the SoCon, canning 7.9 per game) Lawrence tied Wiggins with 1.9 three-point field goals per game (eighth in the conference). He proved he could light it up, scoring a career-best and a team-season-high 32 against Elon and showed that he was not shy about taking the shot. (His had 19 field goal attempts and 13 three-point field goal tries vs. Chattanooga on Dec. 19, both were team- and season-highs.) He also led the team with six three-point field goals against Appalachian State on Feb. 4. Lawrence is effective at the defensive end as well. His 58 steals led the Southern and, despite his diminutive frame, he tied for 11th in the conference in blocked shots, with 17. That was the same number of blocks as Appalachian State's 6-10, 290-pound center Isaac Butts.

Key Stat: .343
While Lawrence was one of the Southern Conference's best three-point shooters in the number of three-pointers made, his career .343 shooting percentage is an area he'd like to improve.

Did You Know: Lawrence was the youngest player on Great Britain's Olympic basketball team roster and was one of only two college players to make it on any of the 12 teams that competed in the London Games. (Matthew Dellavedova of Saint Mary's represented Australia).
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D'Angelo Harrison

School: St. John's | Class: Sophomore
Position: Guard | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 202
Hometown: Missouri City, Texas
2011-12 Averages: 17.0 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 2.1 APG, 1.6 SPG

The Backstory:
Like so many young teams, St. John's had trouble scoring last season, especially from three. A definite bright spot, however, was D'Angelo Harrison, the guard that had the sensational freshman season and stayed -- unlike teammate and fellow Big East All-Rookie Team guard Moe Harkless, who won Big East Rookie of the Year then left for the NBA. Harrison was named to this year's preseason All-Big East Second Team, and will lead the Johnnies, who were picked for 10th. He'll try to build on his freshman season during which he led the team in scoring (17.0 PPG) while putting in a school-freshman-record 544 points. He also led the team in three-point shooting (.367), free throw shooting (.804) and steals (1.6, SPG), making 52 thefts one more than Harkless and Sir'Dominic Pointer. His .800 free throw shooting stood out on a team that shot 68 percent for the season. Harrison, the third-ranked scorer nationally among freshmen, had 28 double-figure-scoring games, led St. John's in scoring 15 times, in rebounding once and in assists seven times and saved the best for last. He capped off his freshman campaign by recording his first double-double, a 12-point, 10-rebound effort against Pittsburgh. That day was one of mixed emotions, however; he recorded his first double-digit rebounding game, setting highs in offensive and defensive rebounding, but also shot 4-for-18 and 0-for-6 from three in the loss to the Panthers. Harrison, like the Red Storm, believes a year older will translate into being a year better.

Key Stat: .367/76
That's Harrison's shooting from behind the arc and three-point field goals made. He shot more than 80 points higher than the team's average. His 76 three-point FGMs set a school record (four more than Avery Patterson's 2007 total) and was 22 more than the rest of the team combined.

Did You Know: Harrison's 17.0 season scoring average is second for a freshman in St. John's history, behind only Felipe Lopez, who averaged 17.8 in 1994-95. He came in just ahead of Chris Mullin, the school's all-time scoring leader, who averaged 16.6 PPG in his freshman season of 1981-82.
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Yeah, they don't have a lot of size. Only thing they have going for them is they return 6 of their top 7 and a Jr. transfer. Wocjik (sp?) is suposed to be a good coach so they'll come to play but they shot far better from 3 in their first game than they did last season.
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CofC fan here. The team isn't full of giants by any means, but they aren't exactly small either. The starters at the F/C positions are: Baru 6-9 225, Wiedeman 6-8 255, and Thomas 6-7 207. The guys behind them getting significant minutes are 6-6 or 6-5 F/G, but I don't see any significant size advantage.

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is anyone meeting before the game? sorry if i missed the link for this. if so, is it just a bar? i have young kid with me. don't worry he is quiet :) thanks in advance.
 
Also, if you haven't setup a meeting spot already, I'd suggest the Kicken' Chicken right down the street from TD arena at 337 King Street.
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That's where you and your friends will be waiting with bats and chains? :p
 
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