The Tulsa rumors
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Redmen88
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This rumor seems to be lingering too long for it not to have legs. The season is over and it is the right time to put something in the press thanking his team and advising about next year if he plans on staying. I am for resolving this issue quick and moving forward with CMA ort starting our search asap. This already seems like a normal SJU post season. Always has to have some sort of drama.
Nobody like Shaka Smart is coming to SJU. The current coach is considering leaving to take over the mighty Tulsa program. The most optimistic viewpoint would be that SJU could get a guy like Stubblefield and go 4-14 in the Big East next year. And then maybe win seven games the next year. And then leave. If CMA leaves for Tulsa (Tulsa!) what is the pitch to the next possible coach? Any solid up and coming coach has enough faith in themselves to wait for the endless better options out there.
What can the school sell? SJU has the worst workout facilities in the Big East. The worst fanbase in the Big East. Students won't come to games for free, they need to be bribed with food and gifts. And you have to play five home games a year on a neutral
at best) court.
SJU is now BC, or Northwestern, a program that has no real interest in winning but happens to be in a conference that generates income for the school. They do the bare minimum to run the program (and paying a coach $2 million these days is the bare minimum) but nothing else. The AD has been here four years and he is still writing up a plan to submit to upgrade facilities. Any school serious about a program could do everything, plan, raise funds, and build, in that timeframe.
CMA staying or going is a shrug to me. The very fact that he is considering it shows me that this school has no intention of doing what it takes to build a strong Division one BB program. And I'm not talking about Top 20. I'm talking about over .500 in their own league.
This news is awful, and even if CMA stays it's awful. The very fact that it's on the table is confirmation of the decimation of the program. Tulsa! Imagine if Willard or Cooley were rumored to go to Tulsa? I can't either.
What can the school sell? SJU has the worst workout facilities in the Big East. The worst fanbase in the Big East. Students won't come to games for free, they need to be bribed with food and gifts. And you have to play five home games a year on a neutral
at best) court. SJU is now BC, or Northwestern, a program that has no real interest in winning but happens to be in a conference that generates income for the school. They do the bare minimum to run the program (and paying a coach $2 million these days is the bare minimum) but nothing else. The AD has been here four years and he is still writing up a plan to submit to upgrade facilities. Any school serious about a program could do everything, plan, raise funds, and build, in that timeframe.
CMA staying or going is a shrug to me. The very fact that he is considering it shows me that this school has no intention of doing what it takes to build a strong Division one BB program. And I'm not talking about Top 20. I'm talking about over .500 in their own league.
This news is awful, and even if CMA stays it's awful. The very fact that it's on the table is confirmation of the decimation of the program. Tulsa! Imagine if Willard or Cooley were rumored to go to Tulsa? I can't either.
otis post=464106 said:
We’ll do you disagree then about the relationship?
IDRAFT post=464110 said:Nobody like Shaka Smart is coming to SJU. The current coach is considering leaving to take over the mighty Tulsa program. The most optimistic viewpoint would be that SJU could get a guy like Stubblefield and go 4-14 in the Big East next year. And then maybe win seven games the next year. And then leave. If CMA leaves for Tulsa (Tulsa!) what is the pitch to the next possible coach? Any solid up and coming coach has enough faith in themselves to wait for the endless better options out there.
What can the school sell? SJU has the worst workout facilities in the Big East. The worst fanbase in the Big East. Students won't come to games for free, they need to be bribed with food and gifts. And you have to play five home games a year on a neutral
SJU is now BC, or Northwestern, a program that has no real interest in winning but happens to be in a conference that generates income for the school. They do the bare minimum to run the program (and paying a coach $2 million these days is the bare minimum) but nothing else. The AD has been here four years and he is still writing up a plan to submit to upgrade facilities. Any school serious about a program could do everything, plan, raise funds, and build, in that timeframe.
CMA staying or going is a shrug to me. The very fact that he is considering it shows me that this school has no intention of doing what it takes to build a strong Division one BB program. And I'm not talking about Top 20. I'm talking about over .500 in their own league.
This news is awful, and even if CMA stays it's awful. The very fact that it's on the table is confirmation of the decimation of the program. Tulsa! Imagine if Willard or Cooley were rumored to go to Tulsa? I can't either.
I guess to be fair Willard was mentioned with mighty Holy Cross before he crossed over to the good side of the fan base.
boo haarvey
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Room112 post=464071 said:
Ok, I watched this and switched my mind.
Let's get Grasso.
So long as he keeps Van.
[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v[/URL]=8Bf3xfwUhj4[/url]
Let's get Grasso.
So long as he keeps Van.
[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v[/URL]=8Bf3xfwUhj4[/url]
boo haarvey
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redmanwest post=464082 said:
I have no idea now if that article is the source of the rumors, as it is being reported by a number of sources; we do not know if there are other independent sources for the rumor.mm52 post=463940 said:
In reviewing information on this thread, the one thing that struck me is how large Tulsa's endowment is. With that endowment, perhaps the school is seeking to raise its profile and hence seek a "big-name" coach like CMA after not having ever been a successful program before.
Short of a complete denial, and very soon, the damage will be done even if CMA returns. I mean, if he's flirting with the Tulsa job then IMO he already has one foot out the door and for all intent and purposes, he's a lame duck coach. A complete denial soon could mitigate the damage, but this already isn't going to bode well with recruiting, both at the high school level and the transfer portal. Other coaches will undoubtedly use this against us.
stuck in conn
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Go get Sean Miller and whatever penalties he brings with him. The guy wins wherever he goes.
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