The Tulsa rumors
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I sincerely hope that CMA promptly issues a statement stating that he is staying at St. John's to completes the rebuild he has undertaken.
If however CMA is attempting to use the Tulsa opening as leverage to renegotiate then I hope that Fr. Shanley and Cragg say "no" and allow him to take the Tulsa job. If CMA would rather be coaching Tulsa then Cragg should not stand in his way.
If CMA departs then St. John's should undertake an aggressive search and find a solid young head coach with college head coaching experience. Youth and ambition are good qualities that grey haired posters frequently overlook.
St. John's fans must face reality; the St. John's head coaching position is not the destination job as it once was. If the St. John's position is a 'stepping- stone" position than so be it; Xavier and Dayton have done well with revolving door coaches.
Yes, we are proving it again this off season that, We Are St. John's.
If however CMA is attempting to use the Tulsa opening as leverage to renegotiate then I hope that Fr. Shanley and Cragg say "no" and allow him to take the Tulsa job. If CMA would rather be coaching Tulsa then Cragg should not stand in his way.
If CMA departs then St. John's should undertake an aggressive search and find a solid young head coach with college head coaching experience. Youth and ambition are good qualities that grey haired posters frequently overlook.
St. John's fans must face reality; the St. John's head coaching position is not the destination job as it once was. If the St. John's position is a 'stepping- stone" position than so be it; Xavier and Dayton have done well with revolving door coaches.
Yes, we are proving it again this off season that, We Are St. John's.
If there's no statement put out by the AD or coach today, then I believe that there are legs to this and there is negotiations ongoing. No other reason not to put it to rest.
If that happens, I hope it is quick, but I assume that means a lot of defections in players and recruits. Notwithstanding that, I agree with what another poster said, I would not stand in his way and I would waive whatever break-up fee there might be. I think that this would advance the inevitable and allow us to regroup a year earlier.
If that happens, I hope it is quick, but I assume that means a lot of defections in players and recruits. Notwithstanding that, I agree with what another poster said, I would not stand in his way and I would waive whatever break-up fee there might be. I think that this would advance the inevitable and allow us to regroup a year earlier.
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The longer the silence, the greater the odds something is going on. It would be easy for the university to release a statement and quash the rumors.
The other way to look at it is maybe the university already knows he is leaving but did not want to say anything until after the NIT selections.
I am on the fence. Never a big fan of Anderson, but I do realize he is a solid coach and better man. If home calls, sometimes you have to answer. It is human nature.
But it goes without saying that if Anderson leaves, Cragg must hit on the next hire. I expect a younger head coach this time, who would be excited to make the jump to the Big East.
We will know soon enough.
The other way to look at it is maybe the university already knows he is leaving but did not want to say anything until after the NIT selections.
I am on the fence. Never a big fan of Anderson, but I do realize he is a solid coach and better man. If home calls, sometimes you have to answer. It is human nature.
But it goes without saying that if Anderson leaves, Cragg must hit on the next hire. I expect a younger head coach this time, who would be excited to make the jump to the Big East.
We will know soon enough.
Holloway, Grasso, Young, Macon, Bobby Hurley life raft, Yale coach. This is the list right? Better young options than the last time but no sure fire upgrades. Wouldn’t hate any of them and I could get excited about a few of them but you couldn’t convince me they’ve proven to be better than CMA.
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Balls are being put away after a disappointing season that all the “coulda, woulda, shouda” feedback won’t change. Time to move on and re-recruit the good guys and add really solid players quickly.
Heard Bill Self say how many teams this year who played transfer game well had very good seasons noting the added experience was a pivotal piece. Not crazy about 23+ guys playing college ball in greater numbers, but it is what it is and you have to play the game. Staff really has to play transfer process successfully this off season to avoid treading water. You can retool much more easily in “free agency” era but you need to add the right, needle moving guys who make sense re fit and current roster.
If Anderson goes, so be it. If not, he and staff should be working immediately to stabilize and better the roster like their jobs depend on it. Even if this Tulsa rumor has no legs, Cragg needs to communicate something loud and clear to avoid stoking panic and giving competitors grist to use to differentiate their program from ours. Silence will only create a vacuum and preclude any degree of stability this program desperately needs.
Heard Bill Self say how many teams this year who played transfer game well had very good seasons noting the added experience was a pivotal piece. Not crazy about 23+ guys playing college ball in greater numbers, but it is what it is and you have to play the game. Staff really has to play transfer process successfully this off season to avoid treading water. You can retool much more easily in “free agency” era but you need to add the right, needle moving guys who make sense re fit and current roster.
If Anderson goes, so be it. If not, he and staff should be working immediately to stabilize and better the roster like their jobs depend on it. Even if this Tulsa rumor has no legs, Cragg needs to communicate something loud and clear to avoid stoking panic and giving competitors grist to use to differentiate their program from ours. Silence will only create a vacuum and preclude any degree of stability this program desperately needs.
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I hope Anderson stays, since I think he's building something good here for the long haul (although this season was a big disappointment). I won't be heartbroken if he leaves, however, and would gladly sign up for a proven mid-major coach with a track record of building a program and ties to the area. To me, that means Shaheen Holloway, King Rice, Jared Grosso, and James Jones (we were a little harsh when he came up he last time, myself included). I'd be fine with any of them.
PAULTZMAN WROTE: Cragg needs to communicate something loud and clear to avoid stoking panic and giving competitors grist to use to differentiate their program from ours. Silence will only create a vacuum and preclude any degree of stability this program desperately need.
Cragg is in over his head. He's part of the "feet on the desk" legacy that has handcuffed the Johnnies for decades. Cragg was a "yes" man at Duke...a program that ran itself like a utility... This job is way different. He's no communicator. Just giving Coach Anderson an extension till '26 should tell you something. There's no way the school can afford to fire him and bring in another coach unless Cragg is fired and his salary goes towards Anderson's replacement.
Cragg is in over his head. He's part of the "feet on the desk" legacy that has handcuffed the Johnnies for decades. Cragg was a "yes" man at Duke...a program that ran itself like a utility... This job is way different. He's no communicator. Just giving Coach Anderson an extension till '26 should tell you something. There's no way the school can afford to fire him and bring in another coach unless Cragg is fired and his salary goes towards Anderson's replacement.
RedmanMike post=464061 said:
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Roll of the dice, sure. Won't generate huge headlines. Folks will think back to Mahoney/Norm.
But short-term he's the best chance at keeping the roster together. Kids love him.
Long-term, I'm bullish on this guy's career. I think he will be a great HC somewhere.
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