The Tulsa rumors

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RedStormNC post=463909 said:
Anderson mentioned here on as "still involved"...

Anderson, who remains a candidate, might be too expensive, considering his 2 mil or so salary at St. John's. But the 62-year-old Anderson isn't tearing it up up at St. John's - three winning seasons but only a 50-41 record there, including 17-15 this season.Anderson might take less to come back to a much better place to live and work. And to his alma mater.

https://tulsa.rivals.com/news/tulsa-searches-for-new-coach-after-haith-resigns

This article lost me when it characterized Tulsa as a much better place to live snd work than NY

 
 
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Boo Harvey post=463925 said:
RedStormNC post=463909 said:
Anderson mentioned here on as "still involved"...

Anderson, who remains a candidate, might be too expensive, considering his 2 mil or so salary at St. John's. But the 62-year-old Anderson isn't tearing it up up at St. John's - three winning seasons but only a 50-41 record there, including 17-15 this season.Anderson might take less to come back to a much better place to live and work. And to his alma mater.

https://tulsa.rivals.com/news/tulsa-searches-for-new-coach-after-haith-resigns

This article lost me when it characterized Tulsa as a much better place to live snd work than NY

I guess if you live in Oklahoma you don't know any better.

 
 
Boo Harvey post=463925 said:
RedStormNC post=463909 said:
Anderson mentioned here on as "still involved"...

Anderson, who remains a candidate, might be too expensive, considering his 2 mil or so salary at St. John's. But the 62-year-old Anderson isn't tearing it up up at St. John's - three winning seasons but only a 50-41 record there, including 17-15 this season.Anderson might take less to come back to a much better place to live and work. And to his alma mater.

https://tulsa.rivals.com/news/tulsa-searches-for-new-coach-after-haith-resigns

This article lost me when it characterized Tulsa as a much better place to live snd work than NY


 
It is if you have spent virtually your entire life in the south, and both you and your spouse attended school there. Oh, and you started your playing and coaching career there.

This is a done deal. Time to think about next chapter. 
 
Boo Harvey post=463925 said:
RedStormNC post=463909 said:
Anderson mentioned here on as "still involved"...

Anderson, who remains a candidate, might be too expensive, considering his 2 mil or so salary at St. John's. But the 62-year-old Anderson isn't tearing it up up at St. John's - three winning seasons but only a 50-41 record there, including 17-15 this season.Anderson might take less to come back to a much better place to live and work. And to his alma mater.

https://tulsa.rivals.com/news/tulsa-searches-for-new-coach-after-haith-resigns

This article lost me when it characterized Tulsa as a much better place to live snd work than NY


 
I assumed meant much better place in his eyes. When I think Tulsa, I think dust and heat and unattractive women. But I'm not him.
 
Jermane Attoil post=463913 said:
If Anderson were to leave, what would most of you think of Tom Crean as a replacement? 

While we’re looking at retreads, we should give Ben Howland a look
 
 
L J S A post=463932 said:
Boo Harvey post=463925 said:
RedStormNC post=463909 said:
Anderson mentioned here on as "still involved"...

Anderson, who remains a candidate, might be too expensive, considering his 2 mil or so salary at St. John's. But the 62-year-old Anderson isn't tearing it up up at St. John's - three winning seasons but only a 50-41 record there, including 17-15 this season.Anderson might take less to come back to a much better place to live and work. And to his alma mater.

https://tulsa.rivals.com/news/tulsa-searches-for-new-coach-after-haith-resigns

This article lost me when it characterized Tulsa as a much better place to live snd work than NY



 
I assumed meant much better place in his eyes. When I think Tulsa, I think dust and heat and unattractive women. But I'm not him.
Not sure how he feels about dust and heat, but I'd like to believe that the quality of women is not a factor in CMA's decision /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
 
Boo Harvey post=463934 said:
Jermane Attoil post=463913 said:
If Anderson were to leave, what would most of you think of Tom Crean as a replacement? 

While we’re looking at retreads, we should give Ben Howland a look


 
No retreads
No ex players
No asst coaches 
No no one with no HC experience

2.5-3Mill should get you a pretty damn good mid-major coach. Anyhow my money is on CMA returning, so it's all likely moot
 
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If that article is the source of the rumors. I put no stock in it.  Has no more value than rank speculation on this board.  
 
Don’t know how the team feels about their coach.If there are no internal problems that exist, we should give Anderson the opportunity to use his incoming recruits  to blend with now experienced players like Posh, Soriano,Pinzon and others. St John is 2 or 3 quality shooters away from being a very good team We lost many close games because of FT s  and poor 3 point shooters..Hate to start all over and lose our core of players and recruits.Only a proven great coach like Pitino would be able keep our players and recruits from transferring.
 
I hope CMA and the core group of players stay. But, if CMA is going to go then make a decision and do it quick so we can get moving on getting another coach and don’t loose out on the transfer portal players etc. If CMA leaves I would like to see Van Macon get the job. If not Macon , then get a young guy like Jared Grasso in here. I just saw him on an interview on CBSSN and he came across extremely well. He has a reputation as a good recruiter and listening to him and hearing him speak he kind of reminds me of a young Mike Brey. 
 
I think NIT failure makes Tulsa rumors slightly more true.

I guess the main issue is his contract here. Taking into account cost of living and future retirement location, does he make more by coming back and getting fired after next season (assuming that's a possibility), or taking six years at Tulsa?

Also, not sure how much this would play into a decision, but Cleveland won't be head coach here. Can CMA negotiate for a succession plan at Tulsa?
 
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L J S A post=463932 said:
Boo Harvey post=463925 said:
RedStormNC post=463909 said:
Anderson mentioned here on as "still involved"...

Anderson, who remains a candidate, might be too expensive, considering his 2 mil or so salary at St. John's. But the 62-year-old Anderson isn't tearing it up up at St. John's - three winning seasons but only a 50-41 record there, including 17-15 this season.Anderson might take less to come back to a much better place to live and work. And to his alma mater.

https://tulsa.rivals.com/news/tulsa-searches-for-new-coach-after-haith-resigns

This article lost me when it characterized Tulsa as a much better place to live snd work than NY





 
I assumed meant much better place in his eyes. When I think Tulsa, I think dust and heat and unattractive women. But I'm not him.
More accurate to think of ever-increasng earthquakes and tornadoes -- right in the middle of "tornado alley."
 
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I have no idea whether there's any substance at all to these rumors, but totally agree with Monte & others that CMA needs to put the rumors to rest (one way or the other) asap so as not to damage the program.  
 
L J S A post=463974 said:
I think NIT failure makes Tulsa rumors slightly more true.

I guess the main issue is his contract here. Taking into account cost of living and future retirement location, does he make more by coming back and getting fired after next season (assuming that's a possibility), or taking six years at Tulsa?

Also, not sure how much this would play into a decision, but Cleveland won't be head coach here. Can CMA negotiate for a succession plan at Tulsa?
A very reasonable post but I don’t agree that money is the key factor at all. Once you have enough money, and I have no doubt that CMA has way more than enough money, he has been a head coach for 20 years and made great money at Arkansas and SJU and probably very good money at Missouri. As a head coach I am sure he did not get paid a ton at UAB. 
Happiness at age 62 of himself and wife is far more important than a few more bucks and something tells me that they will be way happier at Tulsa. Their alma mater, close enough to their roots, a nice city with a nice way of life, former star coming home to Lead the program, and at SJU the seat just got much warmer where at Tulsa he starts from ground level with lower expectations and a 5-6 year guaranteed contract.
the money and greatly reduced cost of living may make it more viable. 
not feeling confident about him staying at SJU.  
 
Every thing that has been going on with this program for twenty years points to a dying program. Father Shanley has to raise the money for facility improvements and Cragg has to hire a coach who can make a difference , not Cleveland or the St. Peter’s coach but a name who can get things moving immediately.
If not getting recruits to play here will be impossible.
 
redmannorth post=463984 said:
L J S A post=463974 said:
I think NIT failure makes Tulsa rumors slightly more true.

I guess the main issue is his contract here. Taking into account cost of living and future retirement location, does he make more by coming back and getting fired after next season (assuming that's a possibility), or taking six years at Tulsa?

Also, not sure how much this would play into a decision, but Cleveland won't be head coach here. Can CMA negotiate for a succession plan at Tulsa?
A very reasonable post but I don’t agree that money is the key factor at all. Once you have enough money, and I have no doubt that CMA has way more than enough money, he has been a head coach for 20 years and made great money at Arkansas and SJU and probably very good money at Missouri. As a head coach I am sure he did not get paid a ton at UAB. 
Happiness at age 62 of himself and wife is far more important than a few more bucks and something tells me that they will be way happier at Tulsa. Their alma mater, close enough to their roots, a nice city with a nice way of life, former star coming home to Lead the program, and at SJU the seat just got much warmer where at Tulsa he starts from ground level with lower expectations and a 5-6 year guaranteed contract.
the money and greatly reduced cost of living may make it more viable. 
not feeling confident about him staying at SJU.  
He had to have gotten paid well at Arkansas plus he got 3 million buyout then paid here so I agree I dont think money is an issue at all with him. Either way his decision to stay or go I think will be a personal lifestyle decision if it comes to that

*edit I just googled he made over 2 mill a year every year at arkansas and close to 2 mill a year at Missouri for  couple years then over 2 mill a year here. Money I dont think will be an issue at all with him
 
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Agree that CMA absolutely needs to say something. Tonight. Verified and well connected sources were sharing these rumors publicly.

I'm not a fan of how CMA hasn't tweeted for nearly a month and Cragg for nearly two. They were clearly waiting for things to turn around first before coming back. Now we're here, there's no running away, and it's time for them to acknowledge what has happened and what will happen going forward.
 
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