I agree and am still positive about our future. . .but tonight should be an embarassment for the kids..Seton Hall is not a team that we should lose to by 30 points...I hope they remember this game and are amped to return the favor next year. . .
St. John's vs. Seton Hall Game Thread
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I agree and am still positive about our future. . .but tonight should be an embarassment for the kids..Seton Hall is not a team that we should lose to by 30 points...I hope they remember this game and are amped to return the favor next year. . .
It is tough for these kids. But they are getting a ton of experience Like Harrison said next year they ll have exp like seniors. They have to keep their heads held high and look at the big picture. This year there are just to many obstacles. youth, no depth, Gift is just a bench player so we have to play players out of position, who are not tall,nor muscular enough to keep up w the BE bigs.
SJUhoopNUT
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Offense isn't a problem? We have 2-3 capable scorers. Are you kidding me? We can't make a outside shot to save our lives.
I never said it wasn't a problem. Re-read. They shot a ridiculous percentage from the field and 3 which was the biggest problem. Once again, we only have 5 freshmen and a 1st year JC player and nobody else to go to. If we had played them with only 5 of their freshmen, we would have smoked em, but that's not the case. We don't have a bonafide PG nor a center this season. We need a lot of things, most of all depth.
cavalier86
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After tonite this is kinda how I see the season playing out. I think we beat UCLA and DePaul, have a close on with ND, I am not buying ND's success. A loss at Pitt and then a close one at Rutgers. These kids are hungry, they want to win, you can hear it at the press conferences and how hard they play in games. We are just not manned to win. We need players plan and simple. I hope that thses kids do not get down and realize that next year and beyond they will be handing out lopsidded loses. I have tons of faith in Lavin and his staff to get it done.
Some of you also continue to forget that we can't quite play pressure defense like we wanna because we're so shorthanded. I'm willing to bet some of those possessions wouldn't have gone so easily for Seton Hall, if we had our entire roster. This goes back to masking weaknesses. We have little room for error and weaknesses are generally exposed due to a very, limited roster.
I believe we need to add another shooter or two. I think Harkless is a capable shooter, and it will look differently when he can slide to SF; has a PG that can get him the ball in good position; and, has other offensive options on the floor besides he and Harrison (and, occasionally Greene).
Once again, Ohio State was horrible (8-22, if I'm correct) the year before they went to the Final Four. They had 3 guys on that team that played a role for them the following season in Michael Redd, Ken Johnson and Jason Singleton. They were a year older and added a few pieces the following year (one notably was Scoonie Penn).
If we keep our current group in tact, then I feel we'll be fine a season from now. It's too hard from some of these kids to go 32-38 minutes every game in this conference. Quite frankly, no one, other than Harkless and Harrison, shouldn't be playing 30 minutes a game. Their minutes probably will be sheered out next season.
Of course, things look bleak and bad at the moment. I just believe with a solid, spring haul then things will be fine going forward.
Absolutfan
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I just got home from work and T=VO ed the game... what the heck happened. We lost to the Hall by 30????? gave up 94 points to a team that averages 57 per game? I knew the offense was weak but the defense against weaker teams like the Hall usually at least made it competitive. No matter which way you slice it, we should not be losing to the Hall by 30. And to think some 5 months ago many on this and other sites were saying how the couldn't see the Kyle Anderson would choose the Hall over us.
I think that its time for a realty check here. Posters are saying how these kids are worn out etc? These are young kids who are used to playing 20 hours a day. There is definately something that just aint clicking. To believe that at the snap of someone's fingers and a few more recruits will make everything better may not be realistic for next year. as those new recruits will take some time as well. And in terms of getting to the level of the big programs.... that may take a bit more time........ a 30 point loss to the Hall??? wow
I think that its time for a realty check here. Posters are saying how these kids are worn out etc? These are young kids who are used to playing 20 hours a day. There is definately something that just aint clicking. To believe that at the snap of someone's fingers and a few more recruits will make everything better may not be realistic for next year. as those new recruits will take some time as well. And in terms of getting to the level of the big programs.... that may take a bit more time........ a 30 point loss to the Hall??? wow
Absolutfan
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On another note, while the Hall does have a few seniors, how many top 100 players do they have on their roster?
Absolutfan
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Agree, if you recall early in the year when we were playing D II and D II teams, they were lighting it up from the outside as well. Hopefully with more bodies next year we play more "on the ball defense" then zone.
