Rasheem Dunn

[quote="kred" post=375676][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375598][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=375596][quote="kred" post=375592][quote="Section9" post=375556][quote="Logen" post=375523][quote="Section9" post=375458]I like Dunn, but that dribbling with the clock running down and then forcing a drive into traffic on our second to last possession was awful.[/quote]

And on the coach, obviously he instructed Dunn to dribble out the shot clock, then attack. If not, he would have been screaming for something else when Dunn settled at mid-court, the play was in front of our bench.[/quote]

Fact is Dunn beats everyone down the floor most of the time for a layup or assist. He was in the process of scoring the winning basket when he mistakenly bounced the ball off his foot. It happens but 9/10 times Dunn wins the game on that shot.

Anderson obviously felt there was nobody else on the floor he wanted to run a play for, right or wrong. It's not the first time this season he's run that type of play for Dunn instead of looking to set up someone else.[/quote][/quote]

9 out of 10 times? Uhhh, that seems high[/quote]

Sure. That's the way it usually works. Guys shooting 38% from the floor always improve to 80-90% in the last 10 sec of a game. ;)[/quote]

Shoot, layup, or dish I'll take Dunn to score or assist on that one over anyone we have.[/quote]

+1,000
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.
 
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[quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]
Just my opinion Dunn is a reach for All BE team. I believe there are better returning guards in the BE. I don’t think that constitutes “throwing him under the bus“ nor saying he has not been a positive.
 
[quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]
Double post, sorry
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=375700][quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]
Just my opinion Dunn is a reach for All BE team. I believe there are better returning guards in the BE. I don’t think that constitutes “throwing him under the bus“ nor saying he has not been a positive.[/quote]

Maybe a reach, but I don't think it's as much of a reach as many of you do. Guess we'll find out next year. And I don't consider you throwing him under the bus.
 
[quote="Monte" post=375690][quote="kred" post=375676][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375598][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=375596][quote="kred" post=375592][quote="Section9" post=375556][quote="Logen" post=375523][quote="Section9" post=375458]I like Dunn, but that dribbling with the clock running down and then forcing a drive into traffic on our second to last possession was awful.[/quote]

And on the coach, obviously he instructed Dunn to dribble out the shot clock, then attack. If not, he would have been screaming for something else when Dunn settled at mid-court, the play was in front of our bench.[/quote]

Fact is Dunn beats everyone down the floor most of the time for a layup or assist. He was in the process of scoring the winning basket when he mistakenly bounced the ball off his foot. It happens but 9/10 times Dunn wins the game on that shot.

Anderson obviously felt there was nobody else on the floor he wanted to run a play for, right or wrong. It's not the first time this season he's run that type of play for Dunn instead of looking to set up someone else.[/quote][/quote]

9 out of 10 times? Uhhh, that seems high[/quote]

Sure. That's the way it usually works. Guys shooting 38% from the floor always improve to 80-90% in the last 10 sec of a game. ;)[/quote]

Shoot, layup, or dish I'll take Dunn to score or assist on that one over anyone we have.[/quote]

+1,000[/quote]

Dunn is killing it. I don’t see the criticism. He stepped into the Big East from a far lower league and is playing his ass off. No he’s not a great outside shooter but is doing everything else. He’s also got big cojones on the court. I’d want it in his hands too this season. He and LJ are the guys keeping this team going offensively.
 
Monte wrote: As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection.

Monte, I like Dunn and agree he has been as big an outperformer this year as Mustapha (who I am a fan of) has been a disappointment.
However, just can't agree that he is having a better year (expectations aside) this year than Heron had last year. Heron was second leading scorer last year on a better team and shot 44% overall and 40% from three with 5 rebounds per game while often pretty effectively guarding bigger guys. Dunn shoots 38% overall and 25% from three which is never going to get you any kind of all league consideration. I do think he can be much more effective off the ball next year, especially if he can work on this shot. Heron's admittedly having a disappointing year but is nowhere near as bad as some make him out to be imho and certainly wasn't bad last year when healthy other than last 2 games when everyone but Simon looked checked out.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=375722]Monte wrote: As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection.

Monte, I like Dunn and agree he has been as big an outperformer this year as Mustapha (who I am a fan of) has been a disappointment.
However, just can't agree that he is having a better year (expectations aside) this year than Heron had last year. Heron was second leading scorer last year on a better team and shot 44% overall and 40% from three with 5 rebounds per game while often pretty effectively guarding bigger guys. Dunn shoots 38% overall and 25% from three which is never going to get you any kind of all league consideration. I do think he can be much more effective off the ball next year, especially if he can work on this shot. Heron's admittedly having a disappointing year but is nowhere near as bad as some make him out to be imho and certainly wasn't bad last year when healthy other than last 2 games when everyone but Simon looked checked out.[/quote]

Gotta cut Dunn some slack on his overall stats, considering the fact that he started late and against much better comp then he faced previously. Plus he sat out a year. He has gotten progressively better and his conference stats prove that out. He has been our most consistent player and arguably our best player. If you want to make the case that Heron is having the same year this year as he did last year, and he got 2nd team pre-season all big east based on last year, and Dunn is having a better year than Heron this year, then Dunn should warrant consideration for all big east next year. Hope I'm making my rationale clear.
Heron last season = all big east preseason this season
Heron this season = Heron last season
Dunn this season > Heron this season
Dunn this season = All big east next season??????
 
Monte, I would say Heron is definitely not having as good a year this year as last year. All his numbers are down except for FT shooting. Also losing the weight hasn't helped his game, just the opposite. As far as Dunn's shooting percentages go, they are remarkably consistent for all three years he's played. Maybe he'll improve next year, hope so. I agree he has been a very nice surprise for us this year and he and Figgy have probably been our best players overall.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=375724]Monte, I would say Heron is definitely not having as good a year this year as last year. All his numbers are down except for FT shooting. Also losing the weight hasn't helped his game, just the opposite. As far as Dunn's shooting percentages go, they are remarkably consistent for all three years he's played. Maybe he'll improve next year, hope so. I agree he has been a very nice surprise for us this year and he and Figgy have probably been our best players overall.[/quote]

2 points about Rasheem's stats NC. First, his 3 point shooting % drags down his overall shooting %. Which is why I said that he needs to improve his outside shooting. In his college career he was gone from shooting under 70% from the FT line to almost 80% and he has a nice stroke, which leads me to believe he can improve on his 3 point shooting. Secondly, he has had the misfortunate of playing on 3 pretty bad teams in college. Hoping that with him being surrounded by better talent next year, and with good coaching and playing off the ball more, we'll see an improvement in his game. All I'm saying, in spite of how some posters are trying to to spin it, is that I think he's got the talent to possibly be an all big east level player next year.
 
[quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]

Monte,

I was asking you to identify what posts you considered to be "kicking him when he was down" because that's a subjective phrase that could have different definitions/interpretations to different people. My re-reading the thread isn't going to help me, or anyone else for that matter, understand who you were referring to or why you disagreed with their statements. Also, this is a public forum where folks have very active disagreements/debates/discussions all the time. I' m not sure firing a shotgun indiscriminately into a crowd and then telling them to figure out who you were aiming at is the best way to participate in a group chat like this, but that's just my opinion.
 
[quote="Monte" post=375690][quote="kred" post=375676][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375598][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=375596][quote="kred" post=375592][quote="Section9" post=375556][quote="Logen" post=375523][quote="Section9" post=375458]I like Dunn, but that dribbling with the clock running down and then forcing a drive into traffic on our second to last possession was awful.[/quote]

And on the coach, obviously he instructed Dunn to dribble out the shot clock, then attack. If not, he would have been screaming for something else when Dunn settled at mid-court, the play was in front of our bench.[/quote]

Fact is Dunn beats everyone down the floor most of the time for a layup or assist. He was in the process of scoring the winning basket when he mistakenly bounced the ball off his foot. It happens but 9/10 times Dunn wins the game on that shot.

Anderson obviously felt there was nobody else on the floor he wanted to run a play for, right or wrong. It's not the first time this season he's run that type of play for Dunn instead of looking to set up someone else.[/quote][/quote]

9 out of 10 times? Uhhh, that seems high[/quote]

Sure. That's the way it usually works. Guys shooting 38% from the floor always improve to 80-90% in the last 10 sec of a game. ;)[/quote]

Shoot, layup, or dish I'll take Dunn to score or assist on that one over anyone we have.[/quote]

+1,000[/quote]

Agreed. I have no problems with Dunn bringing the ball up in that circumstance. He's our best/only option to dribble the ball up and attack the basket. Sucks that he dribbled the ball off his foot, but getting the ball in his hands was the right move with this group of players.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=375700][quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]
Just my opinion Dunn is a reach for All BE team. I believe there are better returning guards in the BE. I don’t think that constitutes “throwing him under the bus“ nor saying he has not been a positive.[/quote]

Totally agree Paultz.

Dunn is a fine player but has major limitations in his game. He's an excellent athlete but he's not an instinctive PG and he's a not so good shooter as a SG. This is his 3rd season in D1 and his stats are remarkably consistent.

in 2 years at St Francis he averaged 14.3ppg on 38.9% shooting (25% on 3pters)
in 2/3'rds of a season here he's averaging 12.8 ppg on 38.1% shooting (25% on 3pters)

Could he improve his 3 point shooting by 10-15%?? Maybe, but that's a leap of faith when you consider that he's been working on that for 3+ years and he's shown no improvement. I'd like nothing more than for him to be the BE player of the year next year, but considering his career path and the level of talent other programs have and are recruiting, it just seems like wishful thinking to me.
 
[quote="Monte" post=375723]Gotta cut Dunn some slack on his overall stats, considering the fact that he started late and against much better comp then he faced previously. Plus he sat out a year. [/quote]Why cut Dunn some slack and not Heron? Both missed all of 3 games this year, and Heron is the one that sat out with an ankle sprain.

[quote="Monte" post=375723]He has gotten progressively better and his conference stats prove that out. [/quote]
Progressively better? More like marginally. He's shooting 40.4% (25.8%) in conference and 38.1% (25%) overall.

[quote="Monte" post=375723] He has been our most consistent player and arguably our best player. [/quote] Sad, but true. That role should have gone to both Figgy and Heron but neither was ready for it.

[quote="Monte" post=375723]If you want to make the case that Heron is having the same year this year as he did last year,...[/quote] Who is making that argument? Heron had a MUCH better season last year, as the 2nd or 3rd wheel, than he is having this year. Last year: 31 games 14.6ppg, 44.0% from the floor, 40.4% from deep, 4.6 boards per game. This year in 20 games: 13.9ppg, 38.5% from the floor, 37.9% from deep, 2.3 boards.
In what universe does last year = this year for Heron?

[quote="Monte" post=375723] ... and he got 2nd team pre-season all big east based on last year, and Dunn is having a better year than Heron this year, then Dunn should warrant consideration for all big east next year. Hope I'm making my rationale clear. [/quote]Heron got second team all BE consideration this year because his numbers last year were very good, and this year he was transitioning from a member of the pack to the lead dog so they could be expected to increase. You've already said, and I've agreed that Dunn is our best player right now. So your are basing your forecast on his all BE selection next year on the fact that his stats are comparable to our current all BE preseason (2nd team) in what is a DOWN year for that player (Heron).

[quote="Monte" post=375723] Heron last season = all big east preseason this season
Heron this season = Heron last season
Dunn this season > Heron this season
Dunn this season = All big east next season?????? [/quote]

a few changes:
Heron last season = all big east preseason this season (2nd team)
Heron this season < than Heron last season (by a lot)
Dunn = Heron this year. Dunn is exceeding expectations a little and Heron is massively underperforming.

[quote="Monte" post=375723] Dunn this season = All big east next season??????[/quote] Only of you think Dunn's season this year is equal to our better than Heron's last year, which it isn't. And it's not even close enough to argue. By any measure, Dunn's stats this year (as arguably our top option) are significantly below what Heron posted as our 3rd option last year. And Dunn isn't going to have the luxury of people arguing his stats will be better because he's the top option next season. He's already the top option. He's not going to get MORE opportunity next year, he's likely to get less, so if his stats are going to warrant preseason all BE selection status next year he's going to have to improve his 3point shooting by 10-15 percentage points. He's also going to have to do that NOW. Nobody is going to cast a preseason all BE vote for him based on whispers that he worked hard over the summer and is now a sharpshooter. Not when he's been a 25% outside shooter his whole life.
 
My two cents on Dunn is this. He seems to try too hard to get his shot. I don't mean at the end of games when the entire SJU team doesn't seem to have any semblance of control game after game but throughout his game.
He plays very hard but takes so many off balance contested shots that he will never shoot a decent percentage. His shooting stroke taking foul shots is perfect and that usually indicates a player of his size will be a decent outsize shooter. If the coaching staff could get him to stop forcing shots I think his entire offensive game would improve.
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=375735][quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]

Monte,

I was asking you to identify what posts you considered to be "kicking him when he was down" because that's a subjective phrase that could have different definitions/interpretations to different people. My re-reading the thread isn't going to help me, or anyone else for that matter, understand who you were referring to or why you disagreed with their statements. Also, this is a public forum where folks have very active disagreements/debates/discussions all the time. I' m not sure firing a shotgun indiscriminately into a crowd and then telling them to figure out who you were aiming at is the best way to participate in a group chat like this, but that's just my opinion.[/quote]


We can go round and round in circles on this. Some of us are saying that we feel that Dunn will be a better player next year and, by virtue, possibly merit All Big East(1st team, 2nd team, is there a 3rd team?) consideration(post-season, not pre-season). Some of you are saying that you've seen enough of a sample size to decide that he is who he is, and he has little to no shot. And once again I will base my "hopes" on his having a much better year on him improving his outside shooting. My "hopes" are based on a few things:
1) He's got a nice stroke, and seems to rush his shot a lot of the time now
2) He's increased his FT shooting nearly 10 points since Freshmen year at St. Francis
3) He will be surrounded by the best talent, by far, of his 4 years in college
4) He will be playing off the ball and on a team with more weapons, which should open up the floor. Hopefully get more good looks where he can take his time and square up.
5) His work ethic. I am sure he will be working on his shooting all off season. Again, he has the stroke. He just needs to hone it.

Sometimes you just have a feeling about a kid after watching him. I had that feeling about Dunn from the moment that I saw him in the exhibition game. Maybe I'm way off on this, but we're not gonna know till next year. So feel free to give me s_ _t next year if he has the same kind of season as this one.
 
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I'm not sure what the issue is with Dunn... he's been a very good player for us. Unfortunately our overall lack of backcourt depth forces him to do more than he is capable of. He's not a true PG, he's a slasher and a scorer. He has to play PG for us this year because no one else can. The other option - Rutherford - simply doesn't give enough offense to be a full-time PG. Assuming Posh is the real deal at PG next year, then Dunn (and Williams as well) will play primarily off the ball on the wing, and he will be even better than he is right now.
 
[quote="Monte" post=375745][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375735][quote="Monte" post=375694][quote="SJUFAN2" post=375645][quote="Monte" post=375639][quote="Beast of the East" post=375480]Let's lay off the kid for at least a little while.[/quote]

I started the thread to praise the kid. Others have used it to attack him after Sunday’s game. Kid has played his heart out all year for us. Really pathetic to kick the kid when he’s down.[/quote]

I missed it. Who was "kicking him when he's down"?[/quote]

Go back and read the posts since Sunday's game, like I just did, and you'll find your answer. I don't want to quote specific posters. I didn't say "everyone" did it, but some posters did. Some of the comments were uncalled for. And I still want the ball in Dunn's hands in that situation over any other kid on the team. Although I would have preferred that he drove and looked to dish. All moot at this point. As for a big east selection next year, are you telling me that Heron had a better year last year then Dunn is having this year? Because I would have to disagree. Yet Heron was a 2nd team pre-season all Big East selection. Not sure why you consider it such a reach that Dunn could be a 2nd team Big East selection next year. Just to clarify: " if" he can improve his outside shooting and play more under control, he "could be" an all Big East(not saying 1st team) selection at the end of the year.[/quote]

Monte,

I was asking you to identify what posts you considered to be "kicking him when he was down" because that's a subjective phrase that could have different definitions/interpretations to different people. My re-reading the thread isn't going to help me, or anyone else for that matter, understand who you were referring to or why you disagreed with their statements. Also, this is a public forum where folks have very active disagreements/debates/discussions all the time. I' m not sure firing a shotgun indiscriminately into a crowd and then telling them to figure out who you were aiming at is the best way to participate in a group chat like this, but that's just my opinion.[/quote]


We can go round and round in circles on this. Some of us are saying that we feel that Dunn will be a better player next year and, by virtue, possibly merit All Big East(1st team, 2nd team, is there a 3rd team?) consideration(post-season, not pre-season). Some of you are saying that you've seen enough of a sample size to decide that he is who he is, and he has little to no shot. And once again I will base my "hopes" on his having a much better year on him improving his outside shooting. My "hopes" are based on a few things:
1) He's got a nice stroke, and seems to rush his shot a lot of the time now
2) He's increased his FT shooting nearly 10% points since Freshmen year at St. Francis
3) He will be surrounded by the best talent, by far, of his 4 years in college
4) He will be playing off the ball and on a team with more weapons, which should open up the floor. Hopefully get more good looks where he can take his time and square up.
5) His work ethic. I am sure he will be working on his shooting all off season. Again, he has the stroke. He just needs to hone it.

Sometimes you just have a feeling about a kid after watching him. I had that feeling about Dunn from the moment that I saw him in the exhibition game. Maybe I'm way off on this, but we're not gonna know till next year. So feel free to give me s_ _t next year if he has the same kind of season as this one.[/quote]
 
Not sure why my last post appeared twice. As much as I like to hear myself talk, maybe one of you mods want to remove the duplicate post.
 
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