Rasheem Dunn

[quote="L J S A" post=374925]Hopefully he doesn't leave as a grad transfer. . .[/quote]

Can't see him transferring yet again. Especially away from home. He also seems to have a wonderful relationship with CMA and knows exactly where he stands on this team. Of course, anything is possible with us.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=374925]Hopefully he doesn't leave as a grad transfer. . .[/quote]

Don't think so--he likes the system and he is a City (of Brooklyn) kid. Most transfer for minutes/usage. Even with Heron and LJ, he leads the team in minutes per game.
 
He went from st Francis to st Johns, big upgrade, gets to follow in Ponds footsteps in front of his family, Getting plenty of burn, don’t see him transferring as BrooklynRed said. Last couple of games he has been much more efficient.
 
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[quote="Redmen88" post=374913][quote="Beast of the East" post=374908]I think he has played well and has been a bright spot on a team long on hustle and short on the type of talent necessary to be a top flight team. I'm wary of any guys who perform reasonably well on teams that aren't playing well. I'm not saying he won't be a solid performer on a much better SJU team, but I am saying he may not produce the way he has this season and will likely see his minutes decrease on a better team.[/quote]

I think he will benefit greatly from playing off the ball. As many indicated he is not a point guard. He is more of a shooting guard playing the point. There are tons of these types in college and they can flourish. I think he could be a great 6th man that comes in and scores when the first team gets a break and he will play with the 1st team a lot when they alternate throughout the game.

He may get starters minutes but come off the bench. It is nice to be able to put in able bodies that can really press the other teams 2nd team. This is an area to pick up some easy buckets as the press can really bother non-starters. His current role is necessitated by MA doing his best to get his best payers on the floor. I agree that production may go down with better players around him. It will also be nice to have a real point guard handle the ball at those end of game situations where Dunn has had difficulties. Overall as most have pointed out, he has been a relatively bright spot this year.[/quote]

You make a great point. A lot of our success in the non-conference schedule was an ability to turn up the heat with the second unit. The teams from smaller conferences just were not able to match our intensity and quickness. So, they faced a tough choice...play the starters more minutes and tire out, or get them some rest and expose their second unit to our defensive pressure.

Dunn would provide maximum value to the team by playing 20-25 minutes off the bench as a 6th man and lead that energy and intensity of the second unit. The whole 40 minutes of hell, or the strength of the 90s UConn teams was their ability to keep coming at you in waves that eventually wore you down. If you think of a game in 4 minute segments with the TV timeouts, all it took was for any one of those 10 segments to be 1 15-4 run and it was game, set, match.
 
Johnnies are not blessed with a an abundance of legitimate Big East assets. Dunn is one & going nowhere with the minutes and level of play in his home area available.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=374931]Johnnies are not blessed with a an abundance of legitimate Big East assets. Dunn is one & going nowhere with the minutes and level of play in his home area available.[/quote]

I agree, but I think him being a New Yorker is probably the only thing stopping 25 teams from trying to back-channel him. It's a dirty business.
 
[quote="Anthony Mattia" post=374898][quote="Monte" post=374885][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=374880]Dunn is coming off his best game of the season. He is an animal on defense.

He does not have the vision or passing skills to be a point guard. He also doesnt have the shooting skills to be a 2 guard.

He is a baller but due to his defecincies, hes a man w/o a position.[/quote]

He's the quintessential "scorer". More of a natural 2G being asked to handle the ball due to circumstances. He'll do fine as a 2G next season and I expect his shooting to improve. FWIW in conference Dunn is shooting .456 on 2 Pt FGs and Howard is shooting .457 on 2 Pt FGs. Overall in conference Dunn is at .407 and Howard at .393. So his shooting % isn't all that bad. Having said that, he needs to work on his 3 point shooting. If he does that, and makes better decisions with the ball, he'll be all Big East next year IMO.[/quote]

Wait...if Howard is just ahead of Dunn in 2pt% and behind him in overall fg% that would mean in conference Dunn is shooting the 3pt at a higher %. Where did you find these numbers because I find that really hard to believe.[/quote]

Yeah, that would make sense but I'm not tracking down the sources of those stats, I'll just say that's not correct. Rasheem has taken about 3.5 3pters per game in BE play. His 3-5 against Nova raised his conference 3pt% in conference from 20.8 to 27.5% in conference. Howard is shooting 33% in conference on 10 3pters per game. By comparison Howard shot 47% on 3 pters during non conference games. Better defense, more pressure, lower shooting percentage in conference.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=374940][quote="Paultzman" post=374931]Johnnies are not blessed with a an abundance of legitimate Big East assets. Dunn is one & going nowhere with the minutes and level of play in his home area available.[/quote]

I agree, but I think him being a New Yorker is probably the only thing stopping 25 teams from trying to back-channel him. It's a dirty business.[/quote]

no one is trying to take rasheen dunn from us. Hes a 6'1 sg who cant shoot. hes a nice player but another school isnt wasting time trying to get him for 1 year. They will just recruit a high school kid who can do what he does.
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=374981]

no one is trying to take rasheen dunn from us. Hes a 6'1 sg who cant shoot. hes a nice player but another school isnt wasting time trying to get him for 1 year. They will just recruit a high school kid who can do what he does.[/quote]

You're right. No one would want a fast and experienced player who by next season could be penciled in for 15 ppg at the highest level of D-1, especially a good team that lost players late to the draft. Something like that has never happened in the grad transfer era.
 
[quote="Enright" post=375098]Can Vince Cole and Dunn get on the court at the same time?[/quote]

Cole and Dunn both will be starters from day 1 next year. I'd say those 2 are locks and LJ too if he returns. Every other spot will be up for grabs.
 
[quote="Making Plays" post=375115][quote="Enright" post=375098]Can Vince Cole and Dunn get on the court at the same time?[/quote]

Cole and Dunn both will be starters from day 1 next year. I'd say those 2 are locks and LJ too if he returns. Every other spot will be up for grabs.[/quote]

And Posh at the point.
Posh, Dunn, Cole, & LJ? Very small, we'd desperately need a Gray.
 
[quote="CMA TIME" post=375116][quote="Making Plays" post=375115][quote="Enright" post=375098]Can Vince Cole and Dunn get on the court at the same time?[/quote]

Cole and Dunn both will be starters from day 1 next year. I'd say those 2 are locks and LJ too if he returns. Every other spot will be up for grabs.[/quote]

And Posh at the point.
Posh, Dunn, Cole, & LJ? Very small, we'd desperately need a Gray.[/quote]

Really early... But I'd guess Dunn, Cole, LJ, Champaigne, Roberts to start the season. With Moore and Posh possibly moving into the starting lineup later down the road. And if they land the Pinckney kid that's visiting in March, he'd probably be in the mix as well. Good thing about next season is we don't have to wait for season to start to find out, they take a foreign trip this summer and we'll get a preview then.
 
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This may not be popular but, on a strong BE team, I think Dunn is more of a 6th man type.
 
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Thanks.
We are moving in the right direction which makes any Ls or disappointments this year a bit easier to take.
In less than a year CMA has brought the program about as far as could have been expected.
A W today would be sweet.
All the best
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=375119]This may not be popular but, on a strong BE team, I think Dunn is more of a 6th man type.[/quote]
If so, only because of perimeter shooting. His speed, ability to get to the basket, use both hands and defense are elite skills.

His passing is still TBD as I’ve seen him make enough great passes to think he has in it him. But, think our lack of scorers has caused him to take it himself more than he might ordinarily do.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=375119]This may not be popular but, on a strong BE team, I think Dunn is more of a 6th man type.[/quote]



Wholeheartedly agree. Dunn may be more valuable as the 6th man next year. A lot depends on what LJ does. Also Alexander is a better passer than Dunn. Dunn can be that spark off the bench. This is not negative or a knock against him. I can also see him playing at the end of games like the Clippers do with Lou Williams.
 
The concept of 6th man has changed dramatically over the years. It's really playing time that matters.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=375119]This may not be popular but, on a strong BE team, I think Dunn is more of a 6th man type.[/quote]

Dunn hasn't even played a full year of Big East basketball yet and he's easily been the most consistent player on the team, and this team consists of 2 pre-season all Big East players. He leads the team in assist and 2nd in scoring since conference play started. Dunn will for sure be a starter, and be the best or 2nd best player on the team next year and probably average the most minutes. I'd even say he'll be an All-Big East selection. I don't know why some are so hard on Dunn and minimize how good he is, his ability to get to the rim and finish through contact is elite level.
 
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[quote="Making Plays" post=375131][quote="JohnnyFan" post=375119]This may not be popular but, on a strong BE team, I think Dunn is more of a 6th man type.[/quote]

Dunn hasn't even played a full year of Big East basketball yet and he's easily been the most consistent player on the team, and this team consists of 2 pre-season all Big East players. He leads the team in assist and 2nd in scoring since conference play started. Dunn will be the best or 2nd best player on the team next year and probably average the most minutes. I'd even say he'll be an All-Big East selection.[/quote]
All BE selection is quite a reach.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=375132][quote="Making Plays" post=375131][quote="JohnnyFan" post=375119]This may not be popular but, on a strong BE team, I think Dunn is more of a 6th man type.[/quote]

Dunn hasn't even played a full year of Big East basketball yet and he's easily been the most consistent player on the team, and this team consists of 2 pre-season all Big East players. He leads the team in assist and 2nd in scoring since conference play started. Dunn will be the best or 2nd best player on the team next year and probably average the most minutes. I'd even say he'll be an All-Big East selection.[/quote]
All BE selection is quite a reach.[/quote]

How so? He's already averaging 12 PPG in his first year in conference and he's still learning to play PG. A full off-season and him having more experience and knowing what to expect in Big East play, he should be a 15-16 PPG player next year.

Also, if you look around the league Big East will be losing a lot of the better players that will all Big East selections, Dunn will be one of the better returning players in the conference.
 
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