(POST-GAME) Georgetown (MSG), Sun. Jan. 27, NOON, FOX / 570AM

[quote="cbruno" post=317848]He is not a good head coach as one would have thought considering how he played in college and the pro’s . He was like a coach on the floor. St Jean might be a good friend but give me Lavin’s guy Dunlap any day

It is difficult winning with only five players as Keita is certainly not what most thought he would be and Trimble and Williams leave little to expect for contributions.

Do we have less total scholarships than other teams.? What is the total allowed for each team?[/quote]

Each team is allotted 13 scholarships. However, we have 2 transfers sitting out this season which count against that total. We also have 1 guy who left during the season and two guys who are eternally glued to the bench. Do the math. We dress 8 guys that have a chance to play and the 3 bench guys hardly play at all.
 
[quote="RedStormNC" post=317839]https://mobile.twitter.com/SJU2219/status/1089595395100033024[/quote]

Why does it take mullin 45secs to sit in the huddle, then you looked at g-town and Ewing is talking right away.
Thinking chris is clueless.
 
Believe I saw someone else post 15-47 now in Big East play. That's now 32 THIRTY TWO games below .500. Some coaches would be on the hot seat after being .500 in 4 years, but 32 UNDER .500? This is historically bad stuff. Hopefully you guys will see that it's not me being negative, but rather calling a spade a spade. This program has been trash under Mullin except for about 1 game a year we win we aren't supposed to on average. Not one to sugar coat.
 
The Big East breaks down as follows: Nova and Marquette, and everybody else.
The "everybody else" teams will compete for the championship of the also rans. The teams in this group are evenly matched. The team that finishes last will be the team who lost their will to win, and/or have a coach who lost the team. Which team is looking like that now?
 
[quote="bamafan" post=317752][quote="RedStormNC" post=317736]How can he honestly point to all those cupcake wins as a sign this is just another loss and they are still way over .500?

He is incompetent as a head coach.

Doesn't recruit, doesn't coach the huddle, doesn't manage the time outs etc.....its a shame.[/quote]
As to your first point-because Beast and his flock repeat the same mantra. Hopefully in his own head he is saying we have to be better and I have to look at how we can do things differently to make us better. I know he likes to give his guys confidence with shooting the rock but there is a reason Simon is left wide open to shoot 3s it is because that's what the other team wants. So maybe start with raining in Simon's shooting of 3s.[/quote]



And you are saying we have to remind Mullin to curtail Simon's threes. I would have done that game 1.
 
Consider this...we have the same conference record as freaking Xavier in a complete rebuild after losing their head coach...while we are a very experienced team with a coach deep into his 4th season. If you have 4 and 5 star players who are experienced and you are 3-5 in a down Big East, there's a massive problem. Even with average players and an average coach, naturally you see progression and by the time an average group of players are seniors, they typically do pretty well just off that experience. Don't dare blame our crowd...our fanbase has been 100% behind this team and have done our part showing up to most games. Today there were over 17,000. Sellouts at CA. Don't want to hear it. Our coaches suck.
 
Thanks for that info, But am missing some names?
The group below totals 11
Ponds
Figs
Heron
Clark
Simon
Keita
Williams
Trimble
Dixon-Transfer
2 incoming transfers
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=317878]Consider this...we have the same conference record as freaking Xavier in a complete rebuild after losing their head coach...while we are a very experienced team with a coach deep into his 4th season. If you have 4 and 5 star players who are experienced and you are 3-5 in a down Big East, there's a massive problem. Even with average players and an average coach, naturally you see progression and by the time an average group of players are seniors, they typically do pretty well just off that experience. Don't dare blame our crowd...our fanbase has been 100% behind this team and have done our part showing up to most games. Today there were over 17,000. Sellouts at CA. Don't want to hear it. Our coaches suck.[/quote]

100% agree. The fans were not to blame. Over 17k showed up to root for the Johnnies today. They responded by trailing the entire game (except for 3 minutes). For God's sake, even Heron admitted after the game they were at times just going through the motions in the 1st half. After having a week off!
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=317864]https://twitter.com/srod021/status/1089579184328970240?s=21[/quote]

Apparently, you can get paid $2 million dollars for tying your shoes for 45 seconds. I really hope Cragg is paying attention.
 
[quote="cbruno" post=317881]Thanks for that info, But am missing some names?
The group below totals 11
Ponds
Figs
Heron
Clark
Simon
Keita
Williams
Trimble
Dixon-Transfer
2 incoming transfers[/quote]

That’s 10, you have Josh Roberts , Marcellus Earlington who don’t play and you have Ian Steere also a sit out transfer and that’s 13
 
[quote="DoodyNY33" post=317882][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317878]Consider this...we have the same conference record as freaking Xavier in a complete rebuild after losing their head coach...while we are a very experienced team with a coach deep into his 4th season. If you have 4 and 5 star players who are experienced and you are 3-5 in a down Big East, there's a massive problem. Even with average players and an average coach, naturally you see progression and by the time an average group of players are seniors, they typically do pretty well just off that experience. Don't dare blame our crowd...our fanbase has been 100% behind this team and have done our part showing up to most games. Today there were over 17,000. Sellouts at CA. Don't want to hear it. Our coaches suck.[/quote]

100% agree. The fans were not to blame. Over 17k showed up to root for the Johnnies today. They responded by trailing the entire game (except for 3 minutes). For God's sake, even Heron admitted after the game they were at times just going through the motions in the 1st half. After having a week off![/quote]

Calm down. It's a long season, and you have to move on after a difficult loss. There are over 60 games left to play. Assuming this was a NBA season. That's how Mulln looks at it, just like in the NBA. Problem is that in college, you can't afford to look at it that way. Every game has a sense of urgency. He doesn't coach that way, and the players don't play that way.
 
I'm just wondering how many games Mullin is under .500 cumulative in big east play. I don't know if anyone has touched on that yet
 
This loss is not just damaging to our dancing prospects, but it is also a blow to our rebuild. That building was packed with red today. Beyond us die-hards, the casual Johnny fans and alumni came out. We also had at least two recruits present, and we layed an egg. This is a game we needed to help elevate the program to the next level of relevancy.

Yes, Simon was awful. But, our problem is bigger than one guy. Most posters have said that it's crucial Simon returns next year. I still want him back. When he is under control and used correctly, he is a weapon.

We all remember the summer narrative. Chris was stubborn and had to do it his way. The season is not over, but make no mistake, he owns this.
 
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[quote="DoodyNY33" post=317882][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317878]Consider this...we have the same conference record as freaking Xavier in a complete rebuild after losing their head coach...while we are a very experienced team with a coach deep into his 4th season. If you have 4 and 5 star players who are experienced and you are 3-5 in a down Big East, there's a massive problem. Even with average players and an average coach, naturally you see progression and by the time an average group of players are seniors, they typically do pretty well just off that experience. Don't dare blame our crowd...our fanbase has been 100% behind this team and have done our part showing up to most games. Today there were over 17,000. Sellouts at CA. Don't want to hear it. Our coaches suck.[/quote]

100% agree. The fans were not to blame. Over 17k showed up to root for the Johnnies today. They responded by trailing the entire game (except for 3 minutes). For God's sake, even Heron admitted after the game they were at times just going through the motions in the 1st half. After having a week off![/quote]

To make matters worse, Georgetown basically controlled the entire second half with the exception of the last couple of minutes when we had 'em rattled with our pressure.
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=317887][quote="DoodyNY33" post=317882][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317878]Consider this...we have the same conference record as freaking Xavier in a complete rebuild after losing their head coach...while we are a very experienced team with a coach deep into his 4th season. If you have 4 and 5 star players who are experienced and you are 3-5 in a down Big East, there's a massive problem. Even with average players and an average coach, naturally you see progression and by the time an average group of players are seniors, they typically do pretty well just off that experience. Don't dare blame our crowd...our fanbase has been 100% behind this team and have done our part showing up to most games. Today there were over 17,000. Sellouts at CA. Don't want to hear it. Our coaches suck.[/quote]

100% agree. The fans were not to blame. Over 17k showed up to root for the Johnnies today. They responded by trailing the entire game (except for 3 minutes). For God's sake, even Heron admitted after the game they were at times just going through the motions in the 1st half. After having a week off![/quote]

Calm down. It's a long season, and you have to move on after a difficult loss. There are over 60 games left to play. Assuming this was a NBA season. That's how Mulln looks at it, just like in the NBA. Problem is that in college, you can't afford to look at it that way. Every game has a sense of urgency. He doesn't coach that way, and the players don't play that way.[/quote]
Squandering opportunities unfortunately is painful to both sides of Mullin aisle, especially in perhaps most competitive leagues in country. Hour glass says beat Creighton or risk further erosion to what was expected to be a solid season. Tough day & it also rained for last 48 hours in Naples Fl. :)
 
The problem is that even with everything going our way:

1. Home court with over 17,000 fans 90% SJ
2. 8 days off getting to rest
3. 82% chance of victory per ESPN pregame

It still doesn't matter. The reason is we do not have coaches. The only coach doing his job is Matt A. He's the only one the fanbase would want to keep. Thank god we have Cragg, I trust he will not allow such embarrassment to go on much longer. For those who say "and do what, start over again?", the answer is hell yes. We are losing 70% of our conference games since he's been coach. I was at a bar after the game and 3 G'Town fans came in. They were nice guys and they said we have a good team and Ponds is one of the best they've ever seen. They also said it seems we always have some type of drama either surrounding players we recruit or coaches. Even as outsiders they can sense this. We just lost by 11 against a G'Town team starting 2 freshmen who dropped 33 combined on us.
 
As most of you know I have been the biggest critic all season about our switching on defense. Yet No fault of Keita or Clark we continue to leisurely switch without any real effort to stay with our man. To allow our guards to have to battle the oppositions big men is beyond believable. And ladies and gentlemen that falls on our incompetent coach..Mullin, you probably have another year and with an inexperienced team I really don't see you succeeding.
I am still going to be optimistic this year, hoping we can pull some upsets at Creighton, DePaul, Providence and Xavier. Can you believe I'm calling these upsets?
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=317887][quote="DoodyNY33" post=317882][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317878]Consider this...we have the same conference record as freaking Xavier in a complete rebuild after losing their head coach...while we are a very experienced team with a coach deep into his 4th season. If you have 4 and 5 star players who are experienced and you are 3-5 in a down Big East, there's a massive problem. Even with average players and an average coach, naturally you see progression and by the time an average group of players are seniors, they typically do pretty well just off that experience. Don't dare blame our crowd...our fanbase has been 100% behind this team and have done our part showing up to most games. Today there were over 17,000. Sellouts at CA. Don't want to hear it. Our coaches suck.[/quote]

100% agree. The fans were not to blame. Over 17k showed up to root for the Johnnies today. They responded by trailing the entire game (except for 3 minutes). For God's sake, even Heron admitted after the game they were at times just going through the motions in the 1st half. After having a week off![/quote]

Calm down. It's a long season, and you have to move on after a difficult loss. There are over 60 games left to play. Assuming this was a NBA season. That's how Mulln looks at it, just like in the NBA. Problem is that in college, you can't afford to look at it that way. Every game has a sense of urgency. He doesn't coach that way, and the players don't play that way.[/quote]

That’s the problem Ray. Mullin treats this like an NBA team. From the offense he runs to his defensive system to the way he approaches the season. The problem is that these are not NBA players. These are kids who need structure and it’s not an 80 game season and when playing conference games especially you have to have a sense of urgency because in conference it’s only an 18 game season. Mullin and his team are acting like this is an 80 game season, it is not. You cannot survive 5 or 6 game stretches of not playing well or not being focused. The season is too short.
 
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[quote="JackofVirginia" post=317900]As most of you know I have been the biggest critic all season about our switching on defense. Yet No fault of Keita or Clark we continue to leisurely switch without any real effort to stay with our man. To allow our guards to have to battle the oppositions big men is beyond believable. And ladies and gentlemen that falls on our incompetent coach..Mullin, you probably have another year and with an inexperienced team I really don't see you succeeding.
I am still going to be optimistic this year, hoping we can pull some upsets at Creighton, DePaul, Providence and Xavier. Can you believe I'm calling these upsets?[/quote]
Frankly Jack as I guy I respect a ton re hoops knowledge, experience & loyalty to Johnnies, you make objective, fair points consistently. Your comment on the “switch on everything” approach is so spot on. Thx
 
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