Mets 2024 Season

The bullpen is clearly the black hole of this team. Stearns failed miserably to address the problem in the off-season. Bad decisions, injuries and lack of depth are not a winning formula.

The Mets have long felt that bullpen success fluctuates wildly and they have long subscribed to signing “quantity” rather than spending on “quality” is the answer. The results are in and it’s not working. Fixing the problem will require an overpay and might not be worth it.
 
In this doom and gloom season there have been a few bright spots. I look forward to watching Butto, Scott, Alvarez, Vientos and the even the OMG guy. Actually I am happy with a number of our players. The bullpen is scary and has to be the worst in baseball but don't have the ability to figure that out.
 
BrooklynRed said:
Manager said he was on 75 pitch count today but, jeeze, let him finish the inning.
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Hey, Mendoza had already gambled on him throwing his arm out and career away by allowing him to throw that potentially deadly 76th pitch. He then literally threw all the computer generated analytics to the wind and went with his instincts and carefully honed over time feel for the game and had him throw that 77th one and I for one applaud his reckless individuality!
 
Andrew said:
In this doom and gloom season there have been a few bright spots. I look forward to watching Butto, Scott, Alvarez, Vientos and the even the OMG guy. Actually I am happy with a number of our players. The bullpen is scary and has to be the worst in baseball but don't have the ability to figure that out.
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I agree with you Andrew. Although, I was doom and gloom after what I considered a poor off-season. I have progressed to somewhat optimistic. The bullpen is still pure crap and they failed on multiple bargain basement signings. I bet most can’t name the opening day bullpen arms that have moved on. Tonkin, Lopez, Ramirez etc. This is a .500 team and not a playoff contender. Not with that bullpen.

All that being said the emergence of Alvarez, Vientos and Scott is a positive. It’s still way too early to pencil these guys in as we need to see more but it’s a start. Of course, it’s always in the back of my mind that the Mets “talent evaluators” made us suffer through 300 plus Voglebach ABs while privately suggesting that Vientos couldn’t play. Not hard to remember that Baty was the chosen one and he has failed to establish himself yet. We’ll see.
 
sjc88 said:
I agree with you Andrew. Although, I was doom and gloom after what I considered a poor off-season. I have progressed to somewhat optimistic. The bullpen is still pure crap and they failed on multiple bargain basement signings. I bet most can’t name the opening day bullpen arms that have moved on. Tonkin, Lopez, Ramirez etc. This is a .500 team and not a playoff contender. Not with that bullpen.

All that being said the emergence of Alvarez, Vientos and Scott is a positive. It’s still way too early to pencil these guys in as we need to see more but it’s a start. Of course, it’s always in the back of my mind that the Mets “talent evaluators” made us suffer through 300 plus Voglebach ABs while privately suggesting that Vientos couldn’t play. Not hard to remember that Baty was the chosen one and he has failed to establish himself yet. We’ll see.
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Don't look up how Ramirez or Tonkin are doing on their new teams. I don't blame Stearns for dropping them, I was happy they were waived, but does go to show that patience is a virtue (sometimes).

I do think this is how the FO envisioned the season as a "transition year" with a young core emerging. Lindor and Nimmo are bonafide leaders. I wish Martinez was younger but he's had a great impact as well. I'm happy Stearns is here and trust him to build the team the right way.
 
sjc88 said:
I agree with you Andrew. Although, I was doom and gloom after what I considered a poor off-season. I have progressed to somewhat optimistic. The bullpen is still pure crap and they failed on multiple bargain basement signings. I bet most can’t name the opening day bullpen arms that have moved on. Tonkin, Lopez, Ramirez etc. This is a .500 team and not a playoff contender. Not with that bullpen.

All that being said the emergence of Alvarez, Vientos and Scott is a positive. It’s still way too early to pencil these guys in as we need to see more but it’s a start. Of course, it’s always in the back of my mind that the Mets “talent evaluators” made us suffer through 300 plus Voglebach ABs while privately suggesting that Vientos couldn’t play. Not hard to remember that Baty was the chosen one and he has failed to establish himself yet. We’ll see.
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I’ve never seen a prospect disrespected to the level Vientos was. If Mauricio never got hurt and/or Baty didn’t play like trash? He’s still be in AAA.
 
dk423 said:
Don't look up how Ramirez or Tonkin are doing on their new teams. I don't blame Stearns for dropping them, I was happy they were waived, but does go to show that patience is a virtue (sometimes).

I do think this is how the FO envisioned the season as a "transition year" with a young core emerging. Lindor and Nimmo are bonafide leaders. I wish Martinez was younger but he's had a great impact as well. I'm happy Stearns is here and trust him to build the team the right way.
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I think Tonkin gave up the 2nd bomb on Sunday night to Devers. I don’t miss him. Stearns deserves some criticism since not a single bullpen guy he signed has made a positive impact. I agree he gets a grace period but this wasn’t his best work. Time will tell.

The problem with the “transition year” theory is that’s not what was said. Not by Cohen and not by Stearns. They also signed JDM LATE. Sure they saved a few bucks (good for them but not my money) but how much of a difference might he have made from the beginning of the season and not June? Having him around in ST would have paid for itself.

The end of the 2023 is still baffling. Voglebach continued to play and Vientos rode the pine. Ok, I’ll stop beating the dead horse. Just frustrated me. Made zero sense.🙂
 
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Well, he has an arm?

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Mets acquire Maton from Rays

The Tampa Bay Rays traded reliever Phil Maton to the New York Mets for a player to be named later or cash, the teams announced Tuesday.Maton owns a 4.58 ERA with 1.33 WHIP and 30 strikeouts over 35 1/3 innings this season.However, the 31-year-old posted a 3.67 ERA with 9.8 K/9 over three years...
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sjc88 said:
Well, he has an arm?

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Mets acquire Maton from Rays

The Tampa Bay Rays traded reliever Phil Maton to the New York Mets for a player to be named later or cash, the teams announced Tuesday.Maton owns a 4.58 ERA with 1.33 WHIP and 30 strikeouts over 35 1/3 innings this season.However, the 31-year-old posted a 3.67 ERA with 9.8 K/9 over three years...
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You misspelled “heartbeat”
 
With the Mets bullpen a 6-0 and now 7-2 lead feels like it’s 1-0. The pattern is always the same Hit, walk, falling behind the hitters.
 
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