Silly Donovan
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It is hard being a Yankee fan, we hold our team to a higher standard of excellence and yes, a 15 year drought is unacceptable as would losing the World Series be.
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Silly Donovan
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Being a dick, not at all, just stating a fact. But hey, if the Yanks lose, I’ll be unhappy as well cause we Yankee fans hold our team to a higher standard of excellence. But hey, the Mets had a good year and were not expected to get this far so you should be thrilled.Owned by the Yankeesthe Mets have great fan support in New York
But I get it you’re just being a dick lol. Enjoy the World Series I’ll be in that Yankee thread if you lose
Unbelievable season. We had no business being in a Game 6 with the Dodgers, so we need to separate that disappointment from how crazy everything else was. This team was scraping its head on its ceiling all season. You don't get too many of these as a Mets fan. I am very happy.
Hopefully Cohen and Stearns realized we showed up to a gun fight with a slingshot and a handful of rocks, and they add serious talent to the top of the roster.
I think we absolutely have to sign Soto. I think you re-sign Alonso to provide a ton of protection for Lindor, Vientos, and Soto as well. You can add Soto, Burnes, retain Alonso and Manaea, and add some leverage arms and still stay in the ballpark of this season's payroll thanks the massive expiring contacts of Scherzer and Verlander as well as combined 15 million we paid McCann and Narvaez and over 25 million combined paid to Houser, Ottavino, Raley, Diekman, and Maton. Maton is due 7.75 mill and has a 250k buyout...the easiest decision all offseason.
The total payroll after Manaea opts out and Mets buy out Maton will only be 120 million...down from 320 million this season (over 350 mill in cap hits).
We have a ton of pre-arb and arb young players as well as deep AAA ranks ready to fill in the roster. I don't recall a time when we've had so many major league ready prospects graduate in 2 seasons like this. Marte's 20 mill falls off after 2025 as well.
Hopefully Cohen and Stearns realized we showed up to a gun fight with a slingshot and a handful of rocks, and they add serious talent to the top of the roster.
I think we absolutely have to sign Soto. I think you re-sign Alonso to provide a ton of protection for Lindor, Vientos, and Soto as well. You can add Soto, Burnes, retain Alonso and Manaea, and add some leverage arms and still stay in the ballpark of this season's payroll thanks the massive expiring contacts of Scherzer and Verlander as well as combined 15 million we paid McCann and Narvaez and over 25 million combined paid to Houser, Ottavino, Raley, Diekman, and Maton. Maton is due 7.75 mill and has a 250k buyout...the easiest decision all offseason.
The total payroll after Manaea opts out and Mets buy out Maton will only be 120 million...down from 320 million this season (over 350 mill in cap hits).
We have a ton of pre-arb and arb young players as well as deep AAA ranks ready to fill in the roster. I don't recall a time when we've had so many major league ready prospects graduate in 2 seasons like this. Marte's 20 mill falls off after 2025 as well.
Silly Donovan
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I’m sure they will be going after Soto.
1. I will answer your first question by poorly paraphrasing the joke about how do you know when a lawyer lying; because your fingers moved (and you posted).
2. Glad to hear you are just “stating a fact” without stating any actual facts. And if we want to look at history (with a little factual context), the Mets were the first team in NY baseball history (including the Dodgers and Giants) to reach 3 million in attendance in 1987. Oh yeah sorry, I forgot, there are more Yankee caps worn by Asian and European tourists.
3. So you stopped being a fan of both teams after Bud Selig gave his buddy Wilpon a great deal by forcing the owner with more money and passion, Nelson Doubleday, to sell? That is hardcore. Luckily you remained true to the Yankees during the bleak CBS ownership days before George bought them.
4. I am leery of Yankee fans saying after the Mets are eliminated how they wanted a subway series. Especially when you come to run salt in the wound right after the Mets lost.
Pretty wild that we were paying three catchers a combined $17M+ to no longer play for us.
God bless Curt Flood.
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Silly Donovan
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It’s called friendly banter. When the Mets came to Yankee stadium and beat the Yankees on multiple occasions, did Yankee fans not hear from you and others as well. Dont take this so seriously, it will raise your blood pressure. Lord knows I do that enough over Johnny games.
Spocky Ramone
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The problem is whenever we have a magical run, we think it's gonna carry over to the next season.
And it never freakin does.
Our pitching was absolutely insane prior to the Dodgers. We got every drop out of Severino, Manaea, Quintana, and Peterson. There is almost no chance they could replicate that again next year. However, we also got nothing from JD Martinez for 4 months. That's crazy from your DH. Alvarez was in a deep rut as well and Nimmo was hurt. Our bullpen was a complete disaster. Those are reasons we should get better...much better in some areas.
We aren't going to find a 34 year old Latin Pop Start to hit .330 or have Quintana be a monster.
We don't have any albatross contracts. We have Lindor at 34 million (and what a freaking deal that looks like now) and then our next highest is Marte at 20 (which falls off after 2025).
I trust Stearns 100% to find value. Let him get some big contracts like Burnes and Soto in place and then fill out the roster like he's with the Brewers still.
These are all our bigger Pre-Arbitration players that will be playing for close to the minimum salary if they make the roster:
Vientos
Alvarez
Mauricio
Baty
Acuna
Gilbert
Reed Garret
Dedniel Nunez
Jose Butto
Danny Young
Huascar Brazoban
Blade Tidwell
Brandon Sproat
Mike Vasil
Dom Hamel
Eric Orze
Then Torrens, Tyron Taylor, Megill, Peterson, Sean Reid-Foley, DJ Stewart, and Paul Blackburn are all in arbitration. Add it the amazing deal for Senga at 15 mill and we have some serious value with an owner willing to spend for top talent and a GM who can identify talent.
No, you’re just being a dick. That’s the very definition of a person who can’t be satisfied with their own success but needs to try and enhance it at the expense of others by, well, being a dick. Kind of a circular reference but I’m pretty sure you get the point.
I root for the Mets, Giants, Islanders, Knicks, and SJU. My blood pressure is fine. It’s my mental health that is suffering.It’s called friendly banter. When the Mets came to Yankee stadium and beat the Yankees on multiple occasions, did Yankee fans not hear from you and others as well. Dont take this so seriously, it will raise your blood pressure. Lord knows I do that enough over Johnny games.
Silly Donovan
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And you’re acting childish….. it’s called friendly banter. The same (only to a lesser extent) crap that the Mets fans extended to Yankee fans when they beat them earlier in the year at the stadium.
Being a dick would be calling the Mets losers etc. while I actually acknowledged their success this season in overachieving.
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Silly Donovan
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As a fellow Giants fan, I truly feel your pain.I root for the Mets, Giants, Islanders, Knicks, and SJU. My blood pressure is fine. It’s my mental health that is suffering.
I am really curious what the Mets will do this off-season. I just find it hard to believe Steinbrenner would let Soto leave after a WS appearance/win, and would match Cohen at any point. They might as well cancel the parade if they let Soto walk to Queens.
I speculated about trading for a 2025 free agent like Tucker or Vladdy Jr/Bichette. But, I can also see us do something the Dodgers did to get Betts -- eat bad contracts from other teams to decrease the prospect acquisition.
Some teams I am curious about:
White Sox. There's rumors Reinsdorf may sell the team.
Could we get a young ace like Crochet, and an injury-prone all-star like Robert, for less than you'd expect if we take on Benintendi's contract? He makes 17 mill per year and has had two down seasons.
Cubs. We've been rumored with Jameson Taillon for a few years now. He makes 18m the next two years, and would be a great stable addition to the rotation. What if we added Cody Bellinger, who will be making 27 mill the next two years, to the trade? Maybe Bellinger isn't the MVP guy we thought he would be, but he bounced back to become a good player.
Mariners. They have a lot of good starting pitching. Mitch Haniger is making 17 mill and old/struggling. Could we part with a declining asset like Baty, take on that contract, and get a pre-arb guy?
Just thinking out loud, but it's amazing that we have a really great FO who can be creative, find diamonds in the rough that people like us wouldn't know, and also have the resources to do things like above.
So it went from “just stating a fact” to “friendly banter”. Sure it was