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[quote="Sju grad 13" post=305057][quote="fordham96" post=305044][quote="NCJohnnie" post=305043]Imho, especially where the program's been in recent years, there is nothing the least bit disappointing about 6-0. Yes, we need to tighten up our 3 point defense and Clark needs to stop with the silly fouls but we are where we need to be at this point and if we win Saturday we have an excellent chance of being undefeated going into BE play. I'll take that all day long.[/quote]



I can name several recent SJU teams including last year's team that would be 6-0 against this schedule at this point. It is not about being disappointed or not liking being 6-0. That is a red herring. Did anyone realistically think SJU would or should be anything less than 6-0 at this point? Name me the team so far that you think is an NCAA team they have played so far? Forget that how about NIT team? Maybe VCU is an NIT team, maybe...[/quote]

Man you sound like a lame. FYI last year’s team lost to Rutgers at Rutgers and this year we blew them out. So no, last year’s team ( which struggled against St. Joseph’s and Grand Canyon) would not be undefeated at this time; Do I have to go back to the year before with the losses to LIU and Deleware State ( would they be undefeated as well)? Or the year before that with the 32 point loss to St. Thomas Aquinas( division two)?

You get the point?[/quote]

Those are scrimmages. Are you serious, did you get the point?

And SJU lost a scrimmage this year to Rhode Island? DId you get that point?
 
[quote="Ralph Joseph Giordano" post=305059]Based on limited action my observations are : Roberts is not ready yet for Big East play on either defense or offense. He may be forced into late game action because of foul trouble but that is all. Williams will see limited minutes at best. His defense is ahead of his offense. Earlington will see no run.[/quote]

Well, you can see why they weren't playing in those tight games.

As soon as Mullin brought them in, is when UMES went on their run. At 15 points, Mullin went back to the starters (actually, he went to them at 18, but #1 hit a three before the next whistle), and we immediately pushed the lead back up over 20.
 
[quote="OhioFan" post=305056][quote="rawdognyc" post=305054][quote="OhioFan" post=305041][quote="rawdognyc" post=305038][quote="OhioFan" post=305029][quote="guinness77" post=305023][quote="OhioFan" post=305019]What I can't comprehend is why we aren't 8-0 after six games. What a friggin' nightmare.[/quote]
You laugh but we got outscored by 3 in the 2nd half. I doubt we win a BE game all season.[/quote]

We may not win again this season. I may jump off a bridge.[/quote]

There's no way we win another game this year. If only we could've won the second half by 1.[/quote]


Which bridge are you jumping off? I'm thinking the Niagara Falls bridge.[/quote]

That's a tough one. I mean The Golden Gate is a bit too cliche, so maybe the Mackinac or the Verrazano. If i do the Verrazano, perhaps they could send Mike Z to talk me off the ledge[/quote]

I would jump just to get away from him.[/quote]

That legit made me laugh out loud..

Just jokes MZ.. no need for how it's ok for some people to constantly attack certain posters.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=305061][quote="Sju grad 13" post=305057][quote="fordham96" post=305044][quote="NCJohnnie" post=305043]Imho, especially where the program's been in recent years, there is nothing the least bit disappointing about 6-0. Yes, we need to tighten up our 3 point defense and Clark needs to stop with the silly fouls but we are where we need to be at this point and if we win Saturday we have an excellent chance of being undefeated going into BE play. I'll take that all day long.[/quote]



I can name several recent SJU teams including last year's team that would be 6-0 against this schedule at this point. It is not about being disappointed or not liking being 6-0. That is a red herring. Did anyone realistically think SJU would or should be anything less than 6-0 at this point? Name me the team so far that you think is an NCAA team they have played so far? Forget that how about NIT team? Maybe VCU is an NIT team, maybe...[/quote]

Man you sound like a lame. FYI last year’s team lost to Rutgers at Rutgers and this year we blew them out. So no, last year’s team ( which struggled against St. Joseph’s and Grand Canyon) would not be undefeated at this time; Do I have to go back to the year before with the losses to LIU and Deleware State ( would they be undefeated as well)? Or the year before that with the 32 point loss to St. Thomas Aquinas( division two)?

You get the point?[/quote]

Those are scrimmages. Are you serious, did you get the point?

And SJU lost a scrimmage this year to Rhode Island? DId you get that point?[/quote]

And just to add Grand Canyon and St. Joe's last year are better than MD Eastern Shore and Cal and Bowling Green. So I am not sure what your point is?
 
Undefeated VT goes down! Penn St with the upset.

Very clear from watching the ending that neither has a Ponds to help close out games.

Edit: oops wrong thread
 
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[quote="fordham96" post=305061][quote="Sju grad 13" post=305057][quote="fordham96" post=305044][quote="NCJohnnie" post=305043]Imho, especially where the program's been in recent years, there is nothing the least bit disappointing about 6-0. Yes, we need to tighten up our 3 point defense and Clark needs to stop with the silly fouls but we are where we need to be at this point and if we win Saturday we have an excellent chance of being undefeated going into BE play. I'll take that all day long.[/quote]



I can name several recent SJU teams including last year's team that would be 6-0 against this schedule at this point. It is not about being disappointed or not liking being 6-0. That is a red herring. Did anyone realistically think SJU would or should be anything less than 6-0 at this point? Name me the team so far that you think is an NCAA team they have played so far? Forget that how about NIT team? Maybe VCU is an NIT team, maybe...[/quote]

Man you sound like a lame. FYI last year’s team lost to Rutgers at Rutgers and this year we blew them out. So no, last year’s team ( which struggled against St. Joseph’s and Grand Canyon) would not be undefeated at this time; Do I have to go back to the year before with the losses to LIU and Deleware State ( would they be undefeated as well)? Or the year before that with the 32 point loss to St. Thomas Aquinas( division two)?

You get the point?[/quote]

Those are scrimmages. Are you serious, did you get the point?

And SJU lost a scrimmage this year to Rhode Island? DId you get that point?[/quote]

I saw the point, thought the world was ending, saw my shadow, went in my bunker and waited six more weeks until spring to come out.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=305064][quote="fordham96" post=305061][quote="Sju grad 13" post=305057][quote="fordham96" post=305044][quote="NCJohnnie" post=305043]Imho, especially where the program's been in recent years, there is nothing the least bit disappointing about 6-0. Yes, we need to tighten up our 3 point defense and Clark needs to stop with the silly fouls but we are where we need to be at this point and if we win Saturday we have an excellent chance of being undefeated going into BE play. I'll take that all day long.[/quote]



I can name several recent SJU teams including last year's team that would be 6-0 against this schedule at this point. It is not about being disappointed or not liking being 6-0. That is a red herring. Did anyone realistically think SJU would or should be anything less than 6-0 at this point? Name me the team so far that you think is an NCAA team they have played so far? Forget that how about NIT team? Maybe VCU is an NIT team, maybe...[/quote]

Man you sound like a lame. FYI last year’s team lost to Rutgers at Rutgers and this year we blew them out. So no, last year’s team ( which struggled against St. Joseph’s and Grand Canyon) would not be undefeated at this time; Do I have to go back to the year before with the losses to LIU and Deleware State ( would they be undefeated as well)? Or the year before that with the 32 point loss to St. Thomas Aquinas( division two)?

You get the point?[/quote]

Those are scrimmages. Are you serious, did you get the point?

And SJU lost a scrimmage this year to Rhode Island? DId you get that point?[/quote]

And just to add Grand Canyon and St. Joe's last year are better than MD Eastern Shore and Cal and Bowling Green. So I am not sure what your point is?[/quote]

To be fair, I thought Grand Canyon was an Online University.. Next year I'm hoping we schedule University of Phoenix
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=305063][quote="OhioFan" post=305056][quote="rawdognyc" post=305054][quote="OhioFan" post=305041][quote="rawdognyc" post=305038][quote="OhioFan" post=305029][quote="guinness77" post=305023][quote="OhioFan" post=305019]What I can't comprehend is why we aren't 8-0 after six games. What a friggin' nightmare.[/quote]
You laugh but we got outscored by 3 in the 2nd half. I doubt we win a BE game all season.[/quote]

We may not win again this season. I may jump off a bridge.[/quote]

There's no way we win another game this year. If only we could've won the second half by 1.[/quote]


Which bridge are you jumping off? I'm thinking the Niagara Falls bridge.[/quote]

That's a tough one. I mean The Golden Gate is a bit too cliche, so maybe the Mackinac or the Verrazano. If i do the Verrazano, perhaps they could send Mike Z to talk me off the ledge[/quote]

I would jump just to get away from him.[/quote]

That legit made me laugh out loud..

Just jokes MZ.. no need for how it's ok for some people to constantly attack certain posters.[/quote]

I am glad to be of service, just trying to make light of all the complaining.
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=305058][quote="guinness77" post=305031]Why does the 2nd half matter to any of you? We were winning by almost 30 points late in the 1st half.

What does this game have to do with any other game this season? What does this game have to do when we play Seton Hall or Villanova in February? Is Ponds gonna think about the 6 points he scored tonight when he’s sitting at the line with 30 seconds remaining in a close BE game? Is anyone on the Tourney committee gonna scratch their head and say “you know what? This team got outscored in the 2nd half against whatever this team is called.”

This game means nothing. They won easily. Effing relax. Cry if we lose to DePaul or Providence. I’m getting sick of this “woe is us” crap.[/quote]

You do realize that we had a 26pnt lead in the 1st half, they cut it to 15, with a few chances to cut it to 13.
I could see maybe getting it cut to 20 or even 19pnts, but not being in position to cut our lead in half.[/quote]
Who. Cares?

This game already means nothing. If people like you think these guys are gonna treat Big East games the way they do these non-conference bullshit games then I really don’t know what to tell you. You guys don’t know much. Wearesju said it before: nothing “good” comes out of these games. Who cares if Trimble scored 35 points tonight or Ponds or Heron shoots 1-for-14? Who effing cares? It doesn’t matter tomorrow, let alone a month or 2 from now. When these guys are playing BE games, NONE of these teams empty their bench. None of them. There are very few blowout games in this league, too.
I got news for some of you, we’re not Duke or Villanova or even Seton Hall. We haven’t won an NCAA game in ages. Ages. We’re not winning the Tourney this year either so let’s stop pretending we’re some kind of entity that we’re not. Enjoy what we can enjoy. Enjoy the probable 18-20 wins we should get this season. Stop bitching because we “let” a 30-Point lead get down to a 16-Point lead.
 
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Agree. Also, what about not attacking fellow posters? I believe we all want the team to do well and are entitled to voice our opinions without being mocked!
 
Lastly that 2009-10 Norm Roberts team that was 6-0 to start the season: LIU, St. Bonnies, Brown, Siena, Temple and Stony Brook. Siena was in the midst of winning their 3rd straight MAAC title under Fran McCaffery, Temple was an NCAA team. The first loss was to Duke 80-71 who went on to win the whole thing that year. Could that team have gone 6-0 against this schedule? I think so? How about Lavin's last two teams, yeah I think so.

Come on. 6-0 is 6-0. But for too much of these games they are not playing at a high level. It's one thing to be winning by 25 against Xavier and then they make some shots and the lead goes down to 11-12. But they need to bury these bad teams not look up with 10 minutes left and they scored 11 points in the 2nd half and the lead has essentially been cut in half and your starters are still in the game. That's all.
 
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[quote="fordham96" post=305074]Lastly that 2009-10 Norm Roberts team that was 6-0 to start the season: LIU, St. Bonnies, Brown, Siena, Temple and Stony Brook. Siena was in the midst of winning their 3rd straight MAAC title under Fran McCaffery, Temple was an NCAA team. The first loss was to Duke 80-71 who went on to win the whole thing that year. Could that team have gone 6-0 against this schedule? I think so? How about Lavin's last two teams, yeah I think so.

Come on. 6-0 is 6-0. But for too much of these games they are not playing at a high level. It's one thing to be winning by 25 against Xavier and then they make some shots and the lead goes down to 11-12. But they need to bury these bad teams not look up with 10 minutes left and they scored 11 points in the 2nd half and the lead has essentially been cut in half and your starters are still in the game. That's all.[/quote]

How any Robert's team won six games in total is a surprise to me. He couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=305074]Lastly that 2009-10 Norm Roberts team that was 6-0 to start the season: LIU, St. Bonnies, Brown, Siena, Temple and Stony Brook. Siena was in the midst of winning their 3rd straight MAAC title under Fran McCaffery, Temple was an NCAA team. The first loss was to Duke 80-71 who went on to win the whole thing that year. Could that team have gone 6-0 against this schedule? I think so? How about Lavin's last two teams, yeah I think so.

Come on. 6-0 is 6-0. But for too much of these games they are not playing at a high level. It's one thing to be winning by 25 against Xavier and then they make some shots and the lead goes down to 11-12. But they need to bury these bad teams not look up with 10 minutes left and they scored 11 points in the 2nd half and the lead has essentially been cut in half and your starters are still in the game. That's all.[/quote]

We beat the National Champs last year when we sucked. So I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.
 
The Georgia Tech game on Saturday will tell us a lot more about where this team is at.
 
[quote="OhioFan" post=305075][quote="fordham96" post=305074]Lastly that 2009-10 Norm Roberts team that was 6-0 to start the season: LIU, St. Bonnies, Brown, Siena, Temple and Stony Brook. Siena was in the midst of winning their 3rd straight MAAC title under Fran McCaffery, Temple was an NCAA team. The first loss was to Duke 80-71 who went on to win the whole thing that year. Could that team have gone 6-0 against this schedule? I think so? How about Lavin's last two teams, yeah I think so.

Come on. 6-0 is 6-0. But for too much of these games they are not playing at a high level. It's one thing to be winning by 25 against Xavier and then they make some shots and the lead goes down to 11-12. But they need to bury these bad teams not look up with 10 minutes left and they scored 11 points in the 2nd half and the lead has essentially been cut in half and your starters are still in the game. That's all.[/quote]

How any Robert's team won six games in total is a surprise to me. He couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.[/quote]

Norm would give the paper bag credit afterwards though.
 
[quote="rawdognyc" post=305076][quote="fordham96" post=305074]Lastly that 2009-10 Norm Roberts team that was 6-0 to start the season: LIU, St. Bonnies, Brown, Siena, Temple and Stony Brook. Siena was in the midst of winning their 3rd straight MAAC title under Fran McCaffery, Temple was an NCAA team. The first loss was to Duke 80-71 who went on to win the whole thing that year. Could that team have gone 6-0 against this schedule? I think so? How about Lavin's last two teams, yeah I think so.

Come on. 6-0 is 6-0. But for too much of these games they are not playing at a high level. It's one thing to be winning by 25 against Xavier and then they make some shots and the lead goes down to 11-12. But they need to bury these bad teams not look up with 10 minutes left and they scored 11 points in the 2nd half and the lead has essentially been cut in half and your starters are still in the game. That's all.[/quote]

We beat the National Champs last year when we sucked. So I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.[/quote]

We didn't do anything. My point is a SJU team that finished 6-12 in the BE and had their coach fired after the season was good enough to start 6-0 against a more difficult schedule then the one SJU is playing now for those who argued that there aren't many recent SJU teams that could be 6-0 against this schedule. I disagreed.
 
Guys and dolls, sorry I have to sign off. Need to sleep this one off. I was so upset at the score I had to chug six double scotches before halftime. Haven't been that drunk since the 1999 Tip Off Dinner. I'm looking forward to the next game, since we will probably drop to 6-4. Prost!
 
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