[quote="Class of 72" post=305136][quote="Jack Williams" post=305135]This board if we beat duke:
“It’s a sloppy win over a painfully inexperienced duke team with a bunch of freshmen who are too young. Shamorie is too selfish for this team, and his 47 points and step back game winner with Zion Williamson guarding him is an embarrassment to this school, cause he didn’t even look for his teammates”[/quote]
The only thing painful will be watching Clark try to handle Zion while Zion drives to the basket. Can I hear "and one"![/quote] What would more painful is after Clark fouls out, and if Keita is still injured, having no bigs covering Zion.
[quote="Ralph Joseph Giordano" post=305187]almost all teams do it now. Called a 5 out offense. Dribble drive layup or kick. Revolves around court spacing and cutting. no clogging up the lane. eliminates the big on defense, no shot blocker and makes it tough to defensive rebound.[/quote]
Absolutely. Whether it translates to college or not we will find out now that the team has enough talent but this is the way many NBA teams play.
Clark hasn't looked great the past few games, but I think he's holding down the middle nicely. When he settles down offense he'll be a net + over the opposing center most games. He's one of the best set shooters in the country playing the 5. Do you guys understand what does for spacing?! He pulls the opposing center out of the lane...that's huge. When he picked up his 4th foul early, I thought "awesome let's get him some experience playing with extreme foul trouble" --something he'll be doing many times later in the year. He fouled out shortly after that on a disgusting reach in. Instead of being disappointed with that I chose to think it was so bad it will serve as a lesson he never forgets.
I'd love to have a versatile 6'7 230 lb Brownlee type next to him. I'm just not a big believer in playing unskilled big men.
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=305181]There are posters that see only the mistakes, and others that are eternal optimists. Then there is reality. First reality is that every team we played would be picked at or neat the bottom of the Big East, and would likely finish there. So I could see why a few close games would trouble some fans. On the other hand, the Big East games will usually be close. There is not a huge talent difference from top to bottom. When you have Ponds and other playmakers, we should have a good feeling about our ability to win close games. Second reality is that there is no need to peak in November or December. The team has a lot of room for growth. We have yet to play together for 40 minutes, or even 35. So I expect the team to get a lot better over the next 2 months.[/quote]
I believe there is some fans who only see the negative and there are some fans on here who think Chris Mullin can do no wrong. It definitely goes both ways.
To be fair, I think you saw the potential during the Rutgers game where the players really shared the ball and they exploded on offense. I think after seeing that fans realize the potential is there and hopefully by big east play that style can be constant as that is what will be needed to win in big east play.
[quote="IDRAFT" post=305195][quote="Ralph Joseph Giordano" post=305187]almost all teams do it now. Called a 5 out offense. Dribble drive layup or kick. Revolves around court spacing and cutting. no clogging up the lane. eliminates the big on defense, no shot blocker and makes it tough to defensive rebound.[/quote]
Absolutely. Whether it translates to college or not we will find out now that the team has enough talent but this is the way many NBA teams play.[/quote]
That's why I have been saying for a couple of years now that Mullin could only be successful with mostly 4 and 5 star talent. His playing life and experience has been 30 years of NBA play. He would have been great at Kentucky where 5 star players get wait listed but as it has been painfully obvious he can't recruit that level talent right out of high school. His savior has been Matt Abdelmassih who brings in dissatisfied highly ranked players when they decide to transfer. That formula would be great if you have an Eric Musselman who was a former head coach of the Sacramento Kings and Golden State Warriors. Not so great if you have a player who never coached the game in his life. As has been mentioned a thousand times here Mullin needed an experienced former coach to assist him and not a 20 something guy whose daddy was a friend.
Yes, we easily beat a very bad team with barely 3 D1 players on its roster but as someone mentioned we allowed open threes by one player all night and let a 6'7 forward have his way around the basket while our super senior Marvin Clark fouled out. A game like this is where you do your instructional coaching and hope the players get it especially while playing the freshmen. Earlington taking 3 point bombs and proper positioning by Roberts and Williams were teaching moments for the staff. I'm not sure I saw any.
[quote="Class of 72" post=305237][quote="IDRAFT" post=305195][quote="Ralph Joseph Giordano" post=305187]almost all teams do it now. Called a 5 out offense. Dribble drive layup or kick. Revolves around court spacing and cutting. no clogging up the lane. eliminates the big on defense, no shot blocker and makes it tough to defensive rebound.[/quote]
Absolutely. Whether it translates to college or not we will find out now that the team has enough talent but this is the way many NBA teams play.[/quote]
That's why I have been saying for a couple of years now that Mullin could only be successful with mostly 4 and 5 star talent. His playing life and experience has been 30 years of NBA play. He would have been great at Kentucky where 5 star players get wait listed but as it has been painfully obvious he can't recruit that level talent right out of high school. His savior has been Matt Abdelmassih who brings in dissatisfied highly ranked players when they decide to transfer. That formula would be great if you have an Eric Musselman who was a former head coach of the Sacramento Kings and Golden State Warriors. Not so great if you have a player who never coached the game in his life. As has been mentioned a thousand times here Mullin needed an experienced former coach to assist him and not a 20 something guy whose daddy was a friend.
Yes, we easily beat a very bad team with barely 3 D1 players on its roster but as someone mentioned we allowed open threes by one player all night and let a 6'7 forward have his way around the basket while our super senior Marvin Clark fouled out. A game like this is where you do your instructional coaching and hope the players get it especially while playing the freshmen. Earlington taking 3 point bombs and proper positioning by Roberts and Williams were teaching moments for the staff. I'm not sure I saw any.[/quote]
I think there is enough talent right now. So far it has worked enough to be 6-0, obviously not against the hardest part of the schedule. In March we will have a lot more information.
Adding Keita into the equation. W the exception of Clark, Our top 6 players are 4 and 5 stars, so the talent is there and Figgy has exceeded expectations.
[quote="Ralph Joseph Giordano" post=305187]almost all teams do it now. Called a 5 out offense. Dribble drive layup or kick. Revolves around court spacing and cutting. no clogging up the lane. eliminates the big on defense, no shot blocker and makes it tough to defensive rebound.[/quote]
If they dribble drove more than 10% of their possessions I'd agree with you. I understand the spacing and cutting concept, and if they did more of that or flashed and fed a player at the high post more I'd actuall love that. But last night they took 50% of their shots from 3, usually without the ball getting inside the arc at all. I think it'll come, it'll have to. Undefeated is a good place to be..
[quote="IDRAFT" post=305275][quote="Class of 72" post=305237][quote="IDRAFT" post=305195][quote="Ralph Joseph Giordano" post=305187]almost all teams do it now. Called a 5 out offense. Dribble drive layup or kick. Revolves around court spacing and cutting. no clogging up the lane. eliminates the big on defense, no shot blocker and makes it tough to defensive rebound.[/quote]
Absolutely. Whether it translates to college or not we will find out now that the team has enough talent but this is the way many NBA teams play.[/quote]
That's why I have been saying for a couple of years now that Mullin could only be successful with mostly 4 and 5 star talent. His playing life and experience has been 30 years of NBA play. He would have been great at Kentucky where 5 star players get wait listed but as it has been painfully obvious he can't recruit that level talent right out of high school. His savior has been Matt Abdelmassih who brings in dissatisfied highly ranked players when they decide to transfer. That formula would be great if you have an Eric Musselman who was a former head coach of the Sacramento Kings and Golden State Warriors. Not so great if you have a player who never coached the game in his life. As has been mentioned a thousand times here Mullin needed an experienced former coach to assist him and not a 20 something guy whose daddy was a friend.
Yes, we easily beat a very bad team with barely 3 D1 players on its roster but as someone mentioned we allowed open threes by one player all night and let a 6'7 forward have his way around the basket while our super senior Marvin Clark fouled out. A game like this is where you do your instructional coaching and hope the players get it especially while playing the freshmen. Earlington taking 3 point bombs and proper positioning by Roberts and Williams were teaching moments for the staff. I'm not sure I saw any.[/quote]
I think there is enough talent right now. So far it has worked enough to be 6-0, obviously not against the hardest part of the schedule. In March we will have a lot more information.[/quote]
There is enough talent. Unfortunately a couple of those talented players currently cannot play. One is injured and one is sitting out. In the best case scenario all the talented players can contribute during a season. That scenario would not place Trimble, at 6'3, playing in the frontcourt.
