Harrison

Just to give you an idea of how easily you can misconstrue what D'Lo was looking at...one game at CA I was in the student section and after a foul got called or some stoppage of play, D'Lo walked close to the student section and looked up as if trying to concentrate on something. I followed his eyes projection and it was just some girl he knew that he was basically acknowledging. You can't say it was definitely scoreboard watching and even if it was, who really cares? More selfish players are a product of the culture of the game today. Many teams have 1 dominant scorer and a supporting cast. Melo when he was at Cuse, Zeller on Indiana, Brooks when he was at Prov, Harrison at SJ, etc. When you have a shot of being a millionaire at 19 or 20 going to the NBA, damn right these guys scoreboard watch. If you want the scouts to notice, you have to put up big games.
 
Lavin has sat Dee before right? If it was bad would he have sat him after it happened yesterday? Would he bench him next game. Guess we'll find out.
 
Lavin has sat Dee before right? If it was bad would he have sat him after it happened yesterday? Would he bench him next game. Guess we'll find out.

He may not have last game since it was very close at the time. Knowing Lavin and how quick to punish D'Lo he has been thus far, I'd expect some kind of benching.
 
Harrison is an extremely talented and passionate kid who had a tough upbringing. He seems like a genuinely good kid who lets his emotions sometimes get the best of him. In the heat of the moment, many of us passionate types have said some things both on the court and on the sidelines that we wish we hadn't. Cut the kid some slack.

So D'Angelo gets a pass because of his upbringing? I don't think so.

Especially a kid who has been kicked out of practice as a sophomore and is supposed to be a "leader" around such a young group. He is supposed to set the tone.

I see a kid who is given rope because he has shooting ability and talent.

Many coaches wouldn't take what he did last night even if some on here just want to brush it off.

I'd love to see try that with a guy like Ed Cooley or some coach who would give it right back to him. D'Angelo did something similar in Charleston but it was more of sulking and ignoring Lavin as he was talking to him as he was benched. But Lavin went and put him right back in the game again.

That smile that Lavin cracked last night wasn't a smile of endearment. I think it was more of embarrassment and trying to remain calm.

Did I say "give him a pass"? I said "cut him some slack". Big difference. Coach has been dealing with him all season and has hardly been giving him a pass. I'll trust that Lavin knows him far better than any of us do and understands how to best handle him.
 
I keep hearing how D'Lo is supposed to be "the leader"? Maybe he doesn't have that kind of make up. Can't he simply be our biggest offensive threat without being "the leader"?
 
I keep hearing how D'Lo is supposed to be "the leader"? Maybe he doesn't have that kind of make up. Can't he simply be our biggest offensive threat without being "the leader"?

I agree. Some ppl just aren't leaders. Hope Lavin realizes that. I look towards Karr or Amir as leaders. And I think Branch as well.
 
I keep hearing how D'Lo is supposed to be "the leader"? Maybe he doesn't have that kind of make up. Can't he simply be our biggest offensive threat without being "the leader"?

I agree. Some ppl just aren't leaders. Hope Lavin realizes that. I look towards Karr or Amir as leaders. And I think Branch as well.
from outsider looking in i would say amir for a variety of reasons. That kid goes after every ball w such passion. If amir could rub off on jones, the kid would averaging double digit rebounds.
 
The substituting Marco for CO and back again was actually an offensive (foul shooting) defense substitution by coach Lavin.

I do not have a replay/tape of the game but if so it was the first hint of strategy by Lavin in this game! LOL!
My recollection was the game was out of reach at that point in the game for the Rams in the last few seconds.
Alas, there are only 2 decent FT shooters on this team that have actually taken more than 8 FTs and Marco is not yet one of them since he has not been to the line all season. The best Ft stats belong to Felix Balamou who was a projected redshirt. If the .62% FT shooting continues, it will not matter very much who the other team fouls unless it is with either Felix or D'Lo with the ball in their hands.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.
 
That smile that Lavin cracked last night wasn't a smile of endearment. I think it was more of embarrassment and trying to remain calm.

How do you interpret Lavin's smile?
I'd love to hear that one. Lavin smiles a lot and has a lot to smile about other than our rebounding :)
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

How is he playing below his 2011 exactly?
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.
Marillac, there is no need to delete anything. You were right in choosing the word antics. Anytime a player feels it is ok to put his finger in a coach's face, it is unacceptable. It amazes me that some on this board want to use the fact that he is emotional to justify his outrageous behavior. Yes my my children and grandchildren have made bad decisions, but they would never put their hand in my or my wife's face.
Part of being a student-athlete is preparing yourself for life. Go to work and put your hand in your boss's face when you get upset and see where you end up. While I find D'Angelo's "antics" upsetting. I have a harder time with all the people on this board who are making excuses for him because of his so called "talent". SMH.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

I'd say we are in need of a PG that can distribute the ball, not score.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

How is he playing below his 2011 exactly?

His decision-making has gone from average to selfish.......his 3 point shooting was great last year against good Big East teams (40%) and has been around 31% in 10 games in the soft part of the schedule........his turnovers have increased (he had around 40 during last year's Big East play and he has over 20 into the first week of December......before BE play even begins)........his pre-game distractions did not exist under coach Dunlap since Mike took no shit........etc., etc..........other than that, he looks like a sure-fire Euro player this year while last year some thought he had NBA potential.............do not get me wrong....I love this kid but he is not playing as expected nor has he been the leader Lav hoped for.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

I'd say we are in need of a PG that can distribute the ball, not score.

The top point guards can do both so I am wishful thinking we can get a player half as goof as Mo Mo Jones at Iona.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

How is he playing below his 2011 exactly?

His decision-making has gone from average to selfish.......his 3 point shooting was great last year against good Big East teams (40%) and has been around 31% in 10 games in the soft part of the schedule........his turnovers have increased (he had around 40 during last year's Big East play and he has over 20 into the first week of December......before BE play even begins)........his pre-game distractions did not exist under coach Dunlap since Mike took no shit........etc., etc..........other than that, he looks like a sure-fire Euro player this year while last year some thought he had NBA potential.............do not get me wrong....I love this kid but he is not playing as expected nor has he been the leader Lav hoped for.

Thru 10 games year over year he is shooting .319 vs. .336 on 5 more 3's attempted during that stretch. While his overall shooting % is up 42 vs 37, his points are up 4 a game on two more shots per game, and all his ancillary stats (rebs, assists, steals, TO's) all the same. Actually half a steal more a game. All in 1 less minute per game.
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

I'd say we are in need of a PG that can distribute the ball, not score.

The top point guards can do both so I am wishful thinking we can get a player half as goof as Mo Mo Jones at Iona.

Harrison vs. Momo is not much difference

MPG- 34.2 vs. 35.9
FGM- 6.7 vs. 7.1
FGA- 15.8 vs. 17.0
FG%- .424 vs. .420
3PM- 2.1 vs. 1.4
3PA- 6.4 vs. 4.9
3P%- .328 vs. .294
FTM- 4.7 vs. 6.0
FTA- 5.6 vs. 6.9
FT%- 83.9 vs. 87.5
RPG- 4.2 vs 1.9
APG- 1.8 vs. 3.7
BPG- .2 vs. .1
SPG- 2.1 vs. 1.3
TPG- 2.3 vs. 3.9
FPG- 2.2 vs. 2.9
PPG- 20.2 vs. 21.7
 
Can I delete this thread...Jesus. I didn't mean to start this nonsense. Harrison is a fiery kid and I get that. From the looks of it, he went a little too far this time. That's all I was getting at. If we saw it, then scouts saw it or spoke to someone that did...that will hurt D'Angelo. We don't know what was said or the relationship between coach and Harrison. Time to lock this thing up and move on.

Agreed! Enough already...there is no smoking gun, he is a talented kid who plays with a lot of emotion and expression, sometimes he makes bad decisions, just like my 22 head old...and we really need him to win!

lesson learned ...... Do not start a thread about a player with the word "antics" in the title. LOL!
We understand the intent of the posting.....I think we all agree he is playing below his 2011 level and he needs to calm down and get into the flow of the offense. It is pretty much a free-for-all right now and Jamal will settle them down. Lavin is in serious need of a point guard who can score and the top priority is the kid from Philly. Lose him to Temple and we become razor thin at the pg. It is clear neither D'Lo or Phil are pgs nor are they strong defenders. Phil was never projected to be a starter since the job went to Nurideen by default but he will be great off the bench next year.

How is he playing below his 2011 exactly?

His decision-making has gone from average to selfish.......his 3 point shooting was great last year against good Big East teams (40%) and has been around 31% in 10 games in the soft part of the schedule........his turnovers have increased (he had around 40 during last year's Big East play and he has over 20 into the first week of December......before BE play even begins)........his pre-game distractions did not exist under coach Dunlap since Mike took no shit........etc., etc..........other than that, he looks like a sure-fire Euro player this year while last year some thought he had NBA potential.............do not get me wrong....I love this kid but he is not playing as expected nor has he been the leader Lav hoped for.

Thru 10 games year over year he is shooting .319 vs. .336 on 5 more 3's attempted during that stretch. While his overall shooting % is up 42 vs 37, his points are up 4 a game on two more shots per game, and all his ancillary stats (rebs, assists, steals, TO's) all the same. Actually half a steal more a game. All in 1 less minute per game.

I used the last 18 Big East play games as a comparison to the first 10 this year to chart his decline. However, the biggest factors do not show up in the stats......his attitude has needed adjustment (the ever lenient Lav already suspended him twice) and his in-game decision making has, to be kind, sucked. I am hoping Jamal will be a steadying influence in another week or so but I suspect if he does not improve his defense and decision-making, Phil Greene will start seeing much more time at the 2 guard as will Marco if Lav's offensive strategy ever includes setting him up for a shot as Looie's offense set up Chris Mullin.
 
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