Well said.
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Bangkok Johnny
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I see you've done your homework @CBA69. I meant that it's too early to know what our seed will actually be. It might turn out to be worse than a 9. In any case, no loss is guaranteed. You know, "That's why...".
Bangkok Johnny
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You're right. I don't remember coach saying they were faking. Could you refresh our memories with the quote(s)? As far as hallmarks of Coach's style, I thought they were final 4s and national championships. Maybe I've woken up in a different universe.
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Bangkok Johnny
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"...asbsolute lies..." Good God! Are you insinuating that members of this board make slanderous statements? Thank you!
So if you had a manager at work you thought to be critical of you would applaud him because the previous ones were worse? Come on, each stand or fall on their own merits; if that is the best argument you can make defending Pitino he should change lawyers.
And yes, I will take the onslaught of rebuttals; I know how deservedly well liked and respected you are, frankly, not knowing you personally except for one or two phone calls and a couple of texts I share those opinions but that is not a reason to be anything but objective in judging someone’s performance.
Still waiting for someone to refute the criticism in the NOW, not relatively to other coaches or to past history.
I know this is a little bit of a joke, but i am seriously cosidering getting rid of my season tickets because those seat backs are so uncomfortable. I literally have to stand at every break because the knees of the guy behind me are imprinted in my back.He's been limping for a couple years. Basically he looks like the rest of us after getting out of our Carnessecca seats at the end of the game
#nosympathy
SJUDave
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What is the basis for this comment? When did they do this?
SJUDave
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Why does that matter? You have to win the games in front of you. We can make excuses till the cows come home but if we lost any of these games this board would be smoldering. I get it they haven't looked like world beaters in these games sans DePaul but 3-1 with a road win isn't anything to sneeze at.
Xavier tomorrow will prove a lot
I truly hope that tomorrow's game is a good performance, and that the team starts to realize its potential. Hard to believe that the team can continue to shoot the ball at such a poor rate, but that definitely has to improve. And the FT shooting also has to be better particularly from KR, which is inexplicable). 3-1 is a good (tho ugly) start. Let's continue to win, and pretty it up too...
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First I want to say that I loved Mike’s post for a brief history of our coaches since Lou retired. A very long period and one in which some of our younger posters weren’t born yet or have very little remembrance of. There is so much to unpack in that period that it could be a thesis paper.
As to your point I would need to see the form you are using to evaluate a coach and fill it out. Like any business not all managers(posters) would come up with the same evaluation. And after it’s filled out, what action would we do with it? What are we trying to accomplish? Why wouldn’t you compare it to others who have performed the same job in the past?
I like what you bring to this board, I just need to better understand what we are trying to accomplish.
Final play against Creighton. Pitino said he called a play that would have Zuby take a three. Zuby got open but RJ opted to do his own thing which ended when he dribbled into four defenders. Pitino pointed this out at the post game news conference.
Silly Donovan
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I think the point is that we really have not played any of the top 5 or even 6 league teams yet except for maybe Creighton. They pulled out a win against PC team that lost at home to Marquette by 28 thanks to a fortunate (for St John’s) rebound that ended up in Zubys hands while the team did everything they could to lose that game. I think many hoped that under Pitinos leadership, with the talent/experience assembled they would be further along in their development. But you’re right, the Xavier game will give us a better idea of what’s to come.
I mean who would have thought that after coach Pitino lauded the depth on this team that midway through the season he would be saying what a poor shooting three point team they were and how his staff is to blame? Funny but earlier in the season, their three point shooting didn’t seem that bad.
Your comment on Xavier tomorrow is spot on.
Silly Donovan
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I think Mike made a lot of great points in his post and agree that Pitino has made the team relevant. A few of my concerns at this point with Pitino is some of the crazy things he says in his press conferences. Mostly, when things are not going as well as he wants, he will say how much he is not enjoying his job there are a lot of stuff that disturbs him, almost like the guy is miserable. It makes me wonder if he really wants to be here or feels compelled to be here and could he leave at any moment? I feel that if this team fails to Dance he may be gone as his with his hatred of losing and large ego may be too much for him to handle.
carmineabbatiello
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Is it not too early to know if we will have a seed at all? We're about to be 3 and 2 with no standout victories. I know that it's the board's overwhelming majority opinion that we'll dance, and I really do admire the human spirit I don't share that enables one to see the light at the end of the tunnel and not think it's an oncoming train, but I don't get it?
Really? A form? Just another no substance reply rather than a response to specific issues I and others have raised. For the record, my “form” is s lifetime around basketball as a player, coach, scout and all-around junkie, eyes that see, ears that hear, and a still functioning brain equipped with common sense.
I offer observational opinions, if you disagree, I suggest you offer some specific rebuttals, not snarky sophomoric drivel.
I don’t have any issues with your opinions. My opinion is that you can compare one coach to another. You can call it snarky sophomoric drivel if you choose.
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carmineabbatiello
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You call that easy? Get me to Dayton every couple seasons and not win a game in the tournament and I'll be his biggest fan. You're pickier than I about the future of the franchise just as I suspect you used to be pickier than I while drunk in a college bar at 4 am.
Agree, my expectations/hope was to see this group not only dance but win a game there. In retrospect I just scanned the roster, considered reputations of transfers & development of second year guys.
That was easy part, with hard part being chemistry, roster fit and assumption we could generate adequate shooting to preclude dependence on our D bailing us out. That said, beat X & you are 4-1 with two road wins (impressive) and can really make hay in next five easier group. Lose & the road to success I hoped for above becomes narrower.
Boo Harvey
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If Pitino truly called for Zuby to take a three at the end of the game down one then I applaud the players for ignoring him.