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The thing I find funny is it is ok to criticize the greatest player in program history because he was a bad coach but not ok to criticize Pitino based off what he has accomplished elsewhere.
The thing I find funny is it is ok to criticize both, the greatest player in program history because he was a bad coach and Pitino based on what he accomplished elsewhere.

You (and others) criticize Pitino and do not get warnings for breaking forum rules. Heck, there are moderators who criticize Pitino too.

And yet, your post reads as if you have to log in through a back door channel of the dark web in order to have freedom to continue posting.
 
The thing I find funny is it is ok to criticize both, the greatest player in program history because he was a bad coach and Pitino based on what he accomplished elsewhere.

You (and others) criticize Pitino and do not get warnings for breaking forum rules. Heck, there are moderators who criticize Pitino too.

And yet, your post reads as if you have to log in through a back door channel of the dark web in order to have freedom to continue posting.
Asking seriously, it is against forum rules to criticize the coach?
 
Of course not. You have been here a while. We have always allowed posters to be critical of our coaches. The only time it is not allowed is if it becomes a personal attack.
I hear you, I just misinterpreted your post, my bad obviously.
 
The thing I find funny is it is ok to criticize both, the greatest player in program history because he was a bad coach and Pitino based on what he accomplished elsewhere.

You (and others) criticize Pitino and do not get warnings for breaking forum rules. Heck, there are moderators who criticize Pitino too.

And yet, your post reads as if you have to log in through a back door channel of the dark web in order to have freedom to continue posting.
Not a shot at the moderators, other posters act as if you criticize Pitino lightening should strike you.
 
Just meant that Chris fair game because his playing career separate. Pitino prior success has nothing to do with how he has been here.

No but prior experience, of which Chris had none, can be used to make assumptions so there is a subtle difference. At least Pitino is in the same job he was in during the historical period he's being compared with, albeit in a radically different environment - both in comparing his last 2 blue blood jobs to STJ and the new college hoops landscape. My concern, if I have one, is whether his approach is right for this new landscape. Is his approach the best way to get the best results in today's game?
 
No but prior experience, of which Chris had none, can be used to make assumptions so there is a subtle difference. At least Pitino is in the same job he was in during the historical period he's being compared with, albeit in a radically different environment - both in comparing his last 2 blue blood jobs to STJ and the new college hoops landscape. My concern, if I have one, is whether his approach is right for this new landscape. Is his approach the best way to get the best results in today's game?
Can argue that despite being my favorite Knick coach, Rick was unsuccessful pro coach and that is what college basketball is now
 
Can argue that despite being my favorite Knick coach, Rick was unsuccessful pro coach and that is what college basketball is now

He was actually pretty good with the Knicks, abject failure with the C's.

But this quote from his wiki page is quite telling, especially given the current state of college basketball you and I have alluded to:

His NBA coaching experience often demonstrated a deep frustration with the dynamics of the league, especially in Boston, where he amassed a 102–146 record from 1997 to 2001.
 
He was actually pretty good with the Knicks, abject failure with the C's.

But this quote from his wiki page is quite telling, especially given the current state of college basketball you and I have alluded to:

His NBA coaching experience often demonstrated a deep frustration with the dynamics of the league, especially in Boston, where he amassed a 102–146 record from 1997 to 2001.
Ehh. Two of the best NBA coaches EVER, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley both jumped ship a few times as soon as they didn't have a championship caliber roster. The impact of a great coach on a crappy team is minimal.
 
Ehh. Two of the best NBA coaches EVER, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley both jumped ship a few times as soon as they didn't have a championship caliber roster. The impact of a great coach on a crappy team is minimal.
A Hall of Fame Celtic told me that RP disrespected Red Auerbach. That's like marching through the US Capitol with a Confederate flag.
 
Can argue that despite being my favorite Knick coach, Rick was unsuccessful pro coach and that is what college basketball is now
NBA is about the players, first and foremost. The best rosters usually win.

Rick failed in Boston as the player personnel man, more than anything else.

Got a bit unlucky, too. They had the most ping-pong balls to draft Tim Duncan the year Rick was hired, but it didn't happen.
 
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