2023-24 Rankings

Updated 2023-24 preseason rankings. For now just posting writer submissions (rather than analytics sites) since we are approaching the AP Top 25 preseason ranking (dates at the bottom of this post). Note: most of these writers aren't AP voters, and the big majority of AP voters don't write articles about their votes.

CBS / Parrish: #25 (10/5/23)
247 / Flaherty: #25 (10/2/23)
Busting Brackets / Freeman: NR (9/25/23)
ESPN / Lunardi: #45 (9/12/23)
ESPN / Borzello: #25 (9/5/23)
The Athletic / Davis: NR (8/28/23)
ESPN / Vitale: #25 (8/11/23)
FanDuel / Rothstein: #23 (8/1/23)
Fox Sports / Fanta: #25* (6/29/23) - *Pre-Ledlum - Fanta later said the following on Twitter: "They’re top 20 good in my estimation and will be there in my next Fox rankings."
SB Nation / Rutherford: #29* (6/14/23) - *Pre-Ledlum
Stadium / Goodman: #24* (6/10/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
NCAA / Katz: NR* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher - listed as "NCAA tournament-bound contender"
SI / Sweeney: #24* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher

Sources:
www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Tolu Smith's foot injury knocks Mississippi State out of preseason Top 25 And 1

Smith, a preseason All-American candidate, is expected to be out until January
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
www.espn.com

Bracketology: Make way for Marquette, Iowa State on the top line

Another week, another shake-up at the top. Iowa State and Marquette join Auburn and Tennessee as No. 1 seeds.
www.espn.com
www.espn.com

WTE Top 25: Duke or Kansas at No. 1 for the final edition?

With less than a month to go 'til the season begins, we're calling it: Kansas remains No. 1. The rest of the field sees some swapping around, but no new faces.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.espn.com

Dickie V's preseason men's top 25

Dickie V's case for the best men's college basketball teams before the season begins.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.fanduel.com

ROTHSTEIN 45: 2023-24 PRESEASON EDITION

View the most recent Preseason Edition of the ROTHSTEIN 45 for the 2023-24 season.
www.fanduel.com www.fanduel.com

College basketball power rankings: St. John's, Kentucky on the rise | FOX Sports

Rick Pitino has changed the vibe around St. John's, while Kentucky added some much-needed experience. Both programs make an appearance in John Fanta's latest Top 25 rankings.
www.foxsports.com www.foxsports.com
www.sbnation.com

College basketball rankings: Too early top-25 after NBA deadline

Here’s our latest look at the top teams in men’s college basketball next season after the NBA deadline passed.
www.sbnation.com www.sbnation.com
https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodm...sketball-rankings-after-nba-draft-early-entry



We're getting close!
October 10: ballots for the AP preseason Top 25 (and all-American team) are due.
October 17: AP preseason Top 25 releases.
 
ADORAZ said:
Updated 2023-24 preseason rankings. For now just posting writer submissions (rather than analytics sites) since we are approaching the AP Top 25 preseason ranking (dates at the bottom of this post). Note: most of these writers aren't AP voters, and the big majority of AP voters don't write articles about their votes.

CBS / Parrish: #25 (10/5/23)
247 / Flaherty: #25 (10/2/23)
Busting Brackets / Freeman: NR (9/25/23)
ESPN / Lunardi: #45 (9/12/23)
ESPN / Borzello: #25 (9/5/23)
The Athletic / Davis: NR (8/28/23)
ESPN / Vitale: #25 (8/11/23)
FanDuel / Rothstein: #23 (8/1/23)
Fox Sports / Fanta: #25* (6/29/23) - *Pre-Ledlum - Fanta later said the following on Twitter: "They’re top 20 good in my estimation and will be there in my next Fox rankings."
SB Nation / Rutherford: #29* (6/14/23) - *Pre-Ledlum
Stadium / Goodman: #24* (6/10/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
NCAA / Katz: NR* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher - listed as "NCAA tournament-bound contender"
SI / Sweeney: #24* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher

Sources:
www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Tolu Smith's foot injury knocks Mississippi State out of preseason Top 25 And 1

Smith, a preseason All-American candidate, is expected to be out until January
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
www.espn.com

Bracketology: Make way for Marquette, Iowa State on the top line

Another week, another shake-up at the top. Iowa State and Marquette join Auburn and Tennessee as No. 1 seeds.
www.espn.com
www.espn.com

WTE Top 25: Duke or Kansas at No. 1 for the final edition?

With less than a month to go 'til the season begins, we're calling it: Kansas remains No. 1. The rest of the field sees some swapping around, but no new faces.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.espn.com

Dickie V's preseason men's top 25

Dickie V's case for the best men's college basketball teams before the season begins.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.fanduel.com

ROTHSTEIN 45: 2023-24 PRESEASON EDITION

View the most recent Preseason Edition of the ROTHSTEIN 45 for the 2023-24 season.
www.fanduel.com www.fanduel.com

College basketball power rankings: St. John's, Kentucky on the rise | FOX Sports

Rick Pitino has changed the vibe around St. John's, while Kentucky added some much-needed experience. Both programs make an appearance in John Fanta's latest Top 25 rankings.
www.foxsports.com www.foxsports.com
www.sbnation.com

College basketball rankings: Too early top-25 after NBA deadline

Here’s our latest look at the top teams in men’s college basketball next season after the NBA deadline passed.
www.sbnation.com www.sbnation.com
https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodm...sketball-rankings-after-nba-draft-early-entry



We're getting close!
October 10: ballots for the AP preseason Top 25 (and all-American team) are due.
October 17: AP preseason Top 25 releases.
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Looks like we will be top 25-30 preseason, which seems reasonable to me given our recent history.
 
NCJohnnie said:
Looks like we will be top 25-30 preseason, which seems reasonable to me given our recent history.
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I'm sticking with Katz at rating us at #6,, I'll say by March 1st.

Hey guys, the guy who steers this ship, isn't good, he's the BEST !
See you back at this post on 3/1/24 so I can say proudly, "I TOLD YOU SO ! "

Then you'll give total credibility to my NCAA Championship pick,
,posted in red, which will be from my heart but also my brains.
 
I found it interesting that Pitino said there are "no great players" on this team yet, and subtly hinted that Soriano needs better conditioning. I presume this is standard Coach Talk to motivate guys.

By the end of the year we will be top 20 and ahead of Villanova in BE standings.
 
ADORAZ said:
Updated 2023-24 preseason rankings. For now just posting writer submissions (rather than analytics sites) since we are approaching the AP Top 25 preseason ranking (dates at the bottom of this post). Note: most of these writers aren't AP voters, and the big majority of AP voters don't write articles about their votes.

CBS / Parrish: #25 (10/5/23)
247 / Flaherty: #25 (10/2/23)
Busting Brackets / Freeman: NR (9/25/23)
ESPN / Lunardi: #45 (9/12/23)
ESPN / Borzello: #25 (9/5/23)
The Athletic / Davis: NR (8/28/23)
ESPN / Vitale: #25 (8/11/23)
FanDuel / Rothstein: #23 (8/1/23)
Fox Sports / Fanta: #25* (6/29/23) - *Pre-Ledlum - Fanta later said the following on Twitter: "They’re top 20 good in my estimation and will be there in my next Fox rankings."
SB Nation / Rutherford: #29* (6/14/23) - *Pre-Ledlum
Stadium / Goodman: #24* (6/10/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
NCAA / Katz: NR* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher - listed as "NCAA tournament-bound contender"
SI / Sweeney: #24* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher

Sources:
www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Tolu Smith's foot injury knocks Mississippi State out of preseason Top 25 And 1

Smith, a preseason All-American candidate, is expected to be out until January
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
www.espn.com

Bracketology: Make way for Marquette, Iowa State on the top line

Another week, another shake-up at the top. Iowa State and Marquette join Auburn and Tennessee as No. 1 seeds.
www.espn.com
www.espn.com

WTE Top 25: Duke or Kansas at No. 1 for the final edition?

With less than a month to go 'til the season begins, we're calling it: Kansas remains No. 1. The rest of the field sees some swapping around, but no new faces.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.espn.com

Dickie V's preseason men's top 25

Dickie V's case for the best men's college basketball teams before the season begins.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.fanduel.com

ROTHSTEIN 45: 2023-24 PRESEASON EDITION

View the most recent Preseason Edition of the ROTHSTEIN 45 for the 2023-24 season.
www.fanduel.com www.fanduel.com

College basketball power rankings: St. John's, Kentucky on the rise | FOX Sports

Rick Pitino has changed the vibe around St. John's, while Kentucky added some much-needed experience. Both programs make an appearance in John Fanta's latest Top 25 rankings.
www.foxsports.com www.foxsports.com
www.sbnation.com

College basketball rankings: Too early top-25 after NBA deadline

Here’s our latest look at the top teams in men’s college basketball next season after the NBA deadline passed.
www.sbnation.com www.sbnation.com
https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodm...sketball-rankings-after-nba-draft-early-entry



We're getting close!
October 10: ballots for the AP preseason Top 25 (and all-American team) are due.
October 17: AP preseason Top 25 releases.
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SI: there weren't as many flashy moves...

What? Stealing Wilcher isn't flashy? What did they want, for us to convince Donovan Clingan to transfer?
 
I’d rather start unrated. We have so many pieces to gel. All that matters is where we are rated at the end of the season.
 
Preseason rankings are certainly subjective, as are in-season rankings, although to a lesser degree.

Since a Duke or Kansas can sustain more losses and yet remain highly ranked, the important part of preseason rankings for us is to be be in the consciousness of voters.

A great start, say 10-1, should therefore result in a climb in the rankings, maybe breaking #20 as opposed to struggling to get into the top 30.
 
gman said:
I’d rather start unrated. We have so many pieces to gel. All that matters is where we are rated at the end of the season.
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I agree to an extent and have expressed that same thought, but here's the thing: we were only ranked once (one week) over the last 8 years / 2 coaches.

If we're ranked preseason then we'd be ranked a minimum of 4 calendar weeks, which would be breaking new ground once again for Pitino. This time before ever playing a game. :LOL:
 
Given that ballots for the AP preseason Top 25 are due TOMORROW October 10 (with the public release 10/17), we can assume that any new AP articles are the final ballots. I have bolded any October entries by AP voters. More commentary at the bottom.

ESPN / Borzello: #25 (10/9/23)
Asbury Park Press / Carino: #25 (10/9/23)
CBS / Parrish: #25 (10/5/23) - NOT AP
247Sports / Flaherty: #25 (10/2/23) - NOT AP
Busting Brackets / Freeman: NR (9/25/23)
ESPN / Lunardi: #45 (9/12/23)
The Athletic / Davis: NR (8/28/23)
ESPN / Vitale: #25 (8/11/23)
FanDuel / Rothstein: #23 (8/1/23)
Fox Sports / Fanta: #25* (6/29/23) - *Pre-Ledlum - Fanta later said the following on Twitter: "They’re top 20 good in my estimation and will be there in my next Fox rankings."
SB Nation / Rutherford: #29* (6/14/23) - *Pre-Ledlum
Stadium / Goodman: #24* (6/10/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher
NCAA / Katz: NR* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher - listed as "NCAA tournament-bound contender"
SI / Sweeney: #24* (6/1/23) - *Pre-Ledlum / Wilcher

Sources:
www.espn.com

WTE Top 25: Duke or Kansas at No. 1 for the final edition?

With less than a month to go 'til the season begins, we're calling it: Kansas remains No. 1. The rest of the field sees some swapping around, but no new faces.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Tolu Smith's foot injury knocks Mississippi State out of preseason Top 25 And 1

Smith, a preseason All-American candidate, is expected to be out until January
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
www.espn.com

Bracketology: Make way for Marquette, Iowa State on the top line

Another week, another shake-up at the top. Iowa State and Marquette join Auburn and Tennessee as No. 1 seeds.
www.espn.com
www.espn.com

Dickie V's preseason men's top 25

Dickie V's case for the best men's college basketball teams before the season begins.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
www.fanduel.com

ROTHSTEIN 45: 2023-24 PRESEASON EDITION

View the most recent Preseason Edition of the ROTHSTEIN 45 for the 2023-24 season.
www.fanduel.com www.fanduel.com

College basketball power rankings: St. John's, Kentucky on the rise | FOX Sports

Rick Pitino has changed the vibe around St. John's, while Kentucky added some much-needed experience. Both programs make an appearance in John Fanta's latest Top 25 rankings.
www.foxsports.com www.foxsports.com
www.sbnation.com

College basketball rankings: Too early top-25 after NBA deadline

Here’s our latest look at the top teams in men’s college basketball next season after the NBA deadline passed.
www.sbnation.com www.sbnation.com
watchstadium.com

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www.ncaa.com

Kansas, Duke lead Power 36 men's basketball rankings after NBA draft early entry withdrawal deadline

With the NBA draft deadline in the rearview, Andy Katz names his latest Power 36 as we get a deeper look into what rosters might look like this fall.
www.ncaa.com www.ncaa.com



So, we officially have 2 points! To reiterate a point I made earlier: we'll absolutely need a number of voters to rank us higher than #25 if we hope to crack the rankings. If a team is ranked #20 on one ballot then that's 6 points and worth more than 5 voters ranking us #25.

Even if every ballot ranked us #25 we likely would not be ranked (as funny as that sounds). Last year's preseason poll had 63 voters and the #25 team received 122 points. 63 points wouldn't cut it. Regardless, still great to be receiving votes and we're 2/2!
 
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I’m more interested where we’re ranked in April. We still have an unknown force that hasn’t been tested. Let’s see if we sneak up on the so called experts and capture their fancy as the season commences.
 
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