Westchester Community College issues-
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tom in salem
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Rubin's definitely better connected than zagoria, which is very worrisome.
tom in salem
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Team has 2 beat writers. zagoria isn't one of them.
Rubin broke the Harkless early entry story.
That's what worries me.
Moose
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Are we going to start a scorecard on who broke what? That was how many years ago.
Zach runs circles around Rubin in terms of being a beat writer and there is more than just the papers now. It's 2014.
Not saying he's right or wrong here but its not like Rubin is privy to things Zags isn't.
By the way kind of funny that Zagoria was the first who tweeted possible issues.
I agree that Moose's post is a good reasonable summary of the current situation with regard to Keith Thomas. But, for me, there have too many of these types of kids recruited by Lavin. too many kids with academic issues, too many kids transferring or threatening to transfer. all programs might try and recruit one or two kids like this because of the talent level but it just seems that the majority of the kids that Lavin recruits are kids like this. I've never seen so many issues with recruits over Lavin's tenure here. As far as I'm concerned, if Lavin doesn't get this team to the NCAA's and have an excellent recruiting year with few issues he can go and lets get someone else in here. I understand that we are not Duke or Michigan St. but there has just been too much of this with Lavin. So, now we have an eight man rotation of Harrison. Jordan, Greene, Branch, Pointer, Obepka, Jones and Albigovic. College is a guard oriented game and we have plenty of quality guards. ADR is going to have to give us something now. Villanova made it to a Final Four playing four guards and Dante Cunningham as their starting five. Who knows, enough is enough though.
Totally different scenario than with Lavin's initial class, in regards to Sampson, Pelle, and Garrett. Frankly, apples to oranges.
Speaking, of transfers.... I don't see a transfer problem at St. John's. JT3 may have the most transfers within the conference in the past 4 or 5 seasons. Besides, transfers are at alarming rate all over college basketball. It's not a St. John's issue, as much as it is an issue throughout collegiate hoops.
@NYPost_Brazille: There are eligibility concerns for Keith Thomas, St. John's big additionhttp://t.co/uL2uUYyHbH via @nypost #sjubb
prjohnnies
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If Thomas can't play, we are going to need a major breakthrough from Jones or Dom to play how a lot of us think he should play - do the dirty work, grab rebounds, play the role of an undersized 4, which guys his size have done successfully from time to time in college hoops. Unrealistic to expect ADR or Amir to give us much.
RR article edited and it's not good....
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...anscript-concerns-article-1.1990020?cid=bitly
A big May addition is becoming a big October subtraction for St. John’s.
Keith Thomas, the high powered rebounder from Westchester Community College, “is almost certainly” ineligible to play for the Red Storm, a source told the Daily News. St. John’s has been looking into his academic transcript from Westchester following revelations that transcripts from players who came out of WCC were changed so they would be eligible for NCAA participation.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...anscript-concerns-article-1.1990020?cid=bitly
A big May addition is becoming a big October subtraction for St. John’s.
Keith Thomas, the high powered rebounder from Westchester Community College, “is almost certainly” ineligible to play for the Red Storm, a source told the Daily News. St. John’s has been looking into his academic transcript from Westchester following revelations that transcripts from players who came out of WCC were changed so they would be eligible for NCAA participation.
jumbo_peanuts
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Could the University file a lawsuit against WCC and also Thomas? I'm not sure what exactly for, but if this is all true, it seems as if both WCC and Thomas screwed SJU, and they knowingly did so.
Please let all the facts come out before throwing Keith, who is at the moment still on our team, under the bus.
This could all go away if Lavin dresses up like Calipari for Halloween and says this is Derrick Rose.
If that doesn't work, Lavin can say he is coach of the SJU Seminoles, and his players have only been accused of raping and assaulting women. In the meantime, the school is doing its own investgation. The players will serve their time, by sitting out a game.
Remember recently reading about problems at Syracuse and NC and we were waiting for a mallet to fall on them? Oh well, it looks like the NCAA is Thor about to nail us with its hammer instead.
If that doesn't work, Lavin can say he is coach of the SJU Seminoles, and his players have only been accused of raping and assaulting women. In the meantime, the school is doing its own investgation. The players will serve their time, by sitting out a game.
Remember recently reading about problems at Syracuse and NC and we were waiting for a mallet to fall on them? Oh well, it looks like the NCAA is Thor about to nail us with its hammer instead.
TRabinowitz
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I think the accountability as it pertains to the coaching staff in this case lies somewhere in the middle of what a lot of people are saying on here.
It is probably unfair to assume or think Lavin & staff knew of transcript fraud, BUT what I can tell you is that during the time schools were recruiting Thomas in the spring, he was always a question mark academically in terms of grades and such to qualify.
I had heard through connection to another staff that had briefly recruited Thomas that he was a roll of the dice in terms of qualifying, so it's definitely fair to say that our staff recruited a kid that may or may not have qualified academically. So while I think it's unfair to pin anything with the fraudulent transcript on the staff, I think it's fair to be critical of Lavin for taking a risk on a kid in an already-thin front court that may not make it or have made it academically.
It is probably unfair to assume or think Lavin & staff knew of transcript fraud, BUT what I can tell you is that during the time schools were recruiting Thomas in the spring, he was always a question mark academically in terms of grades and such to qualify.
I had heard through connection to another staff that had briefly recruited Thomas that he was a roll of the dice in terms of qualifying, so it's definitely fair to say that our staff recruited a kid that may or may not have qualified academically. So while I think it's unfair to pin anything with the fraudulent transcript on the staff, I think it's fair to be critical of Lavin for taking a risk on a kid in an already-thin front court that may not make it or have made it academically.