Transfer Portal 2022

Boo perhaps curbelo and Pinzon show that the are better shooters and they can play  a lot together.
if they play good D that makes Poshs job to do what he does best to be more productive with less playing time where he can get rest and not play 35 min


 
 
I have no problem with the kid from Iowa so long as he is our # 2A or 3 guy. As far as what kind of shooter we need, we need a kid like Ryan Hawkins who Creighton found as a Div 2 conference champ. Someone who can shoot 35-36% at the BE level and get 8 rebounds a game and is most importantly used to winning. Get a kid like that, a wing who can hit the three and defend adequately and the kid from Iowa and we will be OK.  
 
I am a big fan of CMA but if he and staff are not attacking the portal like it is do or die for him, that is on him and Cragg both.  Have to say I am running out of patience.  
 
I love creative, pass first point guards so I shall stand in the Curbelo camp even if he doesn’t fill an obvious need.
 
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MainMan post=466432 said:
I love creative, pass first point guards so I shall stand in the Curbelo camp even if he doesn’t fill an obvious need.

If Curbelo is going to come here and Posh is going to play off the ball then he going to have to significantly improve his three point shooting for that to work. Defensively they eould be amazing together in CMA’s system but you have to score.
 
Mean Gene post=466433 said:
MainMan post=466432 said:
I love creative, pass first point guards so I shall stand in the Curbelo camp even if he doesn’t fill an obvious need.

If Curbelo is going to come here and Posh is going to play off the ball then he going to have to significantly improve his three point shooting for that to work. Defensively they eould be amazing together in CMA’s system but you have to score.

Posh becoming a better shooter will help everything, but we saw us play better with two small guards who couldn’t shoot from deep with Dunn and him. So we know it can work.
 
Curbelo
Cockburn
Key 

and then have Shoes go incognito trailing Greg McDermott around and offer every shooter after he does.
 
Amaseinyourface post=466435 said:
Mean Gene post=466433 said:
MainMan post=466432 said:
I love creative, pass first point guards so I shall stand in the Curbelo camp even if he doesn’t fill an obvious need.

If Curbelo is going to come here and Posh is going to play off the ball then he going to have to significantly improve his three point shooting for that to work. Defensively they eould be amazing together in CMA’s system but you have to score.

Posh becoming a better shooter will help everything, but we saw us play better with two small guards who couldn’t shoot from deep with Dunn and him. So we know it can work.
I don’t think it can work at all. If you have watched Curbelo play these past two years, tge word hit dog comes to mind. What should be a simple pass to a team mate never seemed to be at the detriment to the team. In terms of shooting, Curbelo can’t. In terms of playing together, both “need” the ball to be effective and there is only one. I see no value in bringing him on board when there is Kolby King coming in who I believe most will like, and a great need for scoring at the 3 and 4 spots. There are greater needs elsewhere, they don’t need to be 4 deep at tge PG position. 
 
Toussaint & Curbelo are each high major contributing guards. Each would help. 

I’d think staff could sell the success of Wheeler this past year compared to previous production, and Champ’s career relative to recruiting ranking to a big time wing scorer. The minutes and opportunity are there. 
 
Amaseinyourface wrote:

Toussaint & Curbelo are each high major contributing guards. Each would help. 

I’d think staff could sell the success of Wheeler this past year compared to previous production, and Champ’s career relative to recruiting ranking to a big time wing scorer. The minutes and opportunity are there. 

Not remotely sold on Curbelo and fine with Toussaint as a complimentary piece. But bottom line if CMA doesn't reel in two legit scorers as in shooters, it will be at best a repeat of this year.

 
 
There is a feeling that some people believe all players are made equal.

So for example, Champ leaves but Touissant say commits.  Great we have a replacement for Champagnie.  Uh no that is not how it works.  

Again SJU is losing it's 1st and 3rd leading scorers, it's leading rebounder and likely it's 5th leading scorer in Mathis.  They went 8-11 in the conference with those players and did not make either NCAA or NIT and do not have a top 20 National class coming in.

They need two proven scorers who can step in and start and make a difference immediately.

NCJohnnie post=466442
Amaseinyourface wrote:

Toussaint & Curbelo are each high major contributing guards. Each would help. 

I’d think staff could sell the success of Wheeler this past year compared to previous production, and Champ’s career relative to recruiting ranking to a big time wing scorer. The minutes and opportunity are there. 

Not remotely sold on Curbelo and fine with Toussaint as a complimentary piece. But bottom line if CMA doesn't reel in two legit scorers as in shooters, it will be at best a repeat of this year.
 
NCJohnnie post=466430 said:
I am a big fan of CMA but if he and staff are not attacking the portal like it is do or die for him, that is on him and Cragg both.  Have to say I am running out of patience.  
how do you know they aren't and we just havent heard about it- those kids haven't released a statement yet? Honestly asking- still unclear here how many posters have inside info - lol have you heard they are on vacation or something? lol
 
Brian3 post=466444 said:
NCJohnnie post=466430 said:
I am a big fan of CMA but if he and staff are not attacking the portal like it is do or die for him, that is on him and Cragg both.  Have to say I am running out of patience.  
how do you know they aren't and we just havent heard about it- those kids haven't released a statement yet? Honestly asking- still unclear here how many posters have inside info - lol have you heard they are on vacation or something? lol
Don't run out of patience.  The NCAA's are not over yet.  As noted there are now over 1,000 in the portal; how many have "committed".  It may be that things will start to pop after the Final Four.  I am thankful Wheeler was prompt to reveal that he was leaving as this could swing a "recruit's" decision as there is now more playing time which is probably a prime mover for these desires to transfer.  I am as anxious as others to know but kick back with some Guinness and enjoy that.  Let's give CMA and staff the time they need to sell the program; I can't imagine they are on their Lazy Boy chairs but are out beating the bushes. 
 
Remember, players develop season by season, and even within the season as I've pointed out.   Recently, Earlington made great strides from soph to junior year.  Why not the same from wusu?  Maybe our incoming freshmen, including pinzon, will be as impactful as posh and wusu were last year.  But I do agree that even with overall improvement on the existing roster, i think that a good 20ppg needs to be found from some combo of 2 new players.  
 
I keep asking; why would any impact  high major or even mid major kid want to come here? It's not like he's not going to get a lot of PT wherever he goes. It's not like he's going to be the missing piece to a high caliber team. What do we really have to offer at this point that's going to attract a proven impact player?  I know it's early, but it already feels like we're recruiting from a position of weakness. 
 
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