Transfer Portal 2022

[Mean Gene]

That is a huge problem.  We need less clones of Posh and Wusu.  Mathis was a clone and didnt work here.
We have enough Posh and Wusu type players.  We need kids who can shoot the lights out or this team will have the same problems as always.

As this NCAA tournament has shown us, you can never have enough quality defenders.

All 4 teams remaining are better offensively than they are defensively, as were 10 of the 16 teams that made the sweet 16.

As I’ve said a hundred times, just give shooters and I’ll figure everything else out if I’m a coach.

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

We need clones of Chris Mullin andWalter  Berry . They’re are others but , those 2 will do for now .  As for Defense , Houston shot 1-19 from 3 vs Nova . They got the shots off and if 4 of those shots drop , Houston Wins the game .   Give Nova’s Defense credit but , Houston shooting so poorly wasn’t all defense .   Announcers we’re taking Sampson to task for not his team to stop shooting the 3’s .  They had little trouble getting to the rim and beating Nova off the boards or the dribble .     As for CMA , I believe his defense is oversold by the Media , just as is his reputation for not having a losing season .  We were generally awful defenders of opponents 3 point shooting .  And , BE Coaches long ago figured out how to nullify his press .     We need Shooters from the portal , not clones of Posh or Wusu .  What I have seen of Curbelo tells me he isn’t a answer for us .  Shooters that are 6’7 or so . That’s what we need . 4 spots open , if Mathis opts out.  2 of them need to be sharpshooters . 

 

[paultzman]

St. John's, Oklahoma State, Rhode Island and Drake have reached out to transferring Iowa G @jtoussaint_2, he tells me
Zagoria

Mike Boynton at OSU will have his attention

 

[bucketshardy]

Out of all the needs it seems we need- there is a resounding sentiment that "Shooters" should be the priority- I agree, can never have enough. 

So my question to the board is- what is a Shooter? what FG%  / 3pt% on __ number of attempts would you like to see come aboard?

Are we ok with a mid30% 3pt shooter from a high major on 50+ attempts? Does that % need to higher from a mid major on more attempts?... Curious what people's qualifications are to be a "Shooter" 

(apparently you cant paste from Excel here...? nor Word... had some stats lined up that weren't pasting effectively)

 

[fordham96]

Seriously how many kids does LSU have left on the roster?

https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1509202151079305225?t=0jhEgI4LtmxowQ4V-ZAGIg&s=19

 

[PharmDJohnnie11]

We need a two home runs, not singles to compete next year, perhaps triples

I agree with you. 

But if this is the case (and it’s very likely we don’t get any difference makers) why are we bringing Anderson back for a 4th year? 

Mind numbingly dumb. 

There are plenty of other threads to discuss CMA this is about transfers. Any other posts on this topic in this thread will be removed.

My post was discussing transfers though. The fact that we won’t be able to land any impact ones and it ties into CMA because he’s the coach of the team…

But keep singling out people with a different opinion than you. Really good look for this forum…

 

[MainMan]

You know what they call a 6'6"+ 40% 3PT shooter who can create his own shot?

An NBA player. 

I don't think you guys have any idea what it takes to: "get shooters."

Vince Cole was an awesome JUCO shooter. Couldn't get it off quick enough against top D1 talent. 

Stef Smith was an awesome mid-major shooter. Couldn't get it off quick enough against top D1 talent.

Fred Lyson was an awesome high school shooter. Couldn't get it off quick enough against top D1 talent.

And on and on and on....

 

[bucketshardy]

Out of all the needs it seems we need- there is a resounding sentiment that "Shooters" should be the priority- I agree, can never have enough. 

So my question to the board is- what is a Shooter? what FG%  / 3pt% on __ number of attempts would you like to see come aboard?

Are we ok with a mid30% 3pt shooter from a high major on 50+ attempts? Does that % need to higher from a mid major on more attempts?... Curious what people's qualifications are to be a "Shooter" 

(apparently you cant paste from Excel here...? nor Word... had some stats lined up that weren't pasting effectively)

Wanted to give more context than this in a nice chart- but point of ref 3pt %:
Wheeler @Purdue - 28% on 82 attempt/yr over 3 years. VS. @SJU 38.5% on 109 attempts
Smith @Vermont - 39% on 148 attempts/yr over his last 3 yrs VS @SJU 29.7% on 90 attempts
Coburn @Hofstra - 40.6% on 140 attempts/yr over his last 3 yrs VS @SJU 39.3% on 62 attempts

Silver lining to whoever we get- Wheeler was NOT a sniper by any means before us.... but hindsight..... Coburn should have shot the ball every time he caught it lol.

 

[Redmen88]

What we need is "basketball players".  Those that understand what it takes to win.  Players knowing when to shoot, when to pump fake, when to pass and not making bonehead plays.  Give me a smart player that is well rounded and that would be a good start. I get that CMA is looking for athletes that can play D but it would be nice to have a few smart well rounded payers. That is what Villanova has been playing with all of these years.  Sprinkle in a few very good players and you begin to develop a program.  

 

[gman]

We need a two home runs, not singles to compete next year, perhaps triples

I agree with you. 

But if this is the case (and it’s very likely we don’t get any difference makers) why are we bringing Anderson back for a 4th year? 

Mind numbingly dumb. 

There are plenty of other threads to discuss CMA this is about transfers. Any other posts on this topic in this thread will be removed.

My post was discussing transfers though. The fact that we won’t be able to land any impact ones and it ties into CMA because he’s the coach of the team…

But keep singling out people with a different opinion than you. Really good look for this forum…

It wasn’t. It was a post questioning why Anderson is the guy. We literally have a topic discussing that. You post was off topic hence my post. If you don’t like that find another forum to post on. I have no problem opposing CMA. I have a problem as a mod with people cluttering threads with off topic posts. I won’t go back and forth with you on this.

 

[MakingPlays]

We have a lot of needs heading into 2022-23 but I think we need one thing more than anything else - SHOOTERS!!!!!! We don't have a single person on our roster who is a reliable outside shooter.

Another big issue is roster continuity. Last year, we had to incorporate 9 new guys into CMA's system. We all saw how that worked out. If everyone still on the roster comes back (and that's not a certainty), we will have 6 or 7 scholarship players who have never played a minute in a St John's uniform. That is a major area of concern IMO.

We still have 3 schollies open for next year. Our staff needs to make prudent use of the transfer portal to bring in some guys who can shoot the ball and blend into the system. Here's hoping they can make that happen.


 

Exactly.  Bringing in any guard who cant shoot is complete insanity.  If hes a C+ or B- defender, thats fine.  We cant keep doing the same thing over and over.  We know what those results are.

The problem this year wasn't shooting.  The biggest problem I seen was missed free throws and late game stops on the defensive end.  I can think of 4 games off the top of my head that was lost by simply shooting under 60% from the free throw line.  That's never acceptable.  If you're going to be a good basketball team and expect to win close games in a high major conference you can't shoot 67% from the free throw line as a team. 

For example at Arkansas, JD Notae, shot 29% from 3 point and attempted 249 threes.  In comparison Julian who is a high volume 3 point shooter attempted 193.  Arkansas as a team 30% from 3, without a single player shooting over 39%.  And this Arkansas team went to the elite 8.  And how does that happen with a team that shoots so poorly?  They got to the free throw line ALOT and shot 75% from the free throw line as a team.  There wasn't a single guy in the rotation that shot below 70% from the line.

So, when I'm looking at the transfers this year.  I'm looking at how good they were defensively, how good they are at attacking the rim on offense, and if they shoot at least 70% from the free throw line.  I don't care if they shoot 1% from the 3.  3 pointers is fool's gold, Georgetown was a decent 3 point shooting team and didn't win a single conference game. Every team is going to be hot and cold from the 3 point line.  Being good defensively and making free throws is something a team can do well every single game.

 

[fordham96]

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1509226931937554445?t=6ukAvlnNxo4CjH3kwp8pNw&s=19

 

[usguard]

I am leaning minimum 38%

 

[MainMan]

I am leaning minimum 38%

Then unless you're dealing with an NBA prospect (and there will likely be no NBA prospects in the transfer portal), you're going to be getting a player with a hole (or several) in his game. 

To put it in SJU transfer perspective: For every Reggie Carter out there, there are 20 John Hempels. 

Guys who can shoot, but can't create their own shot. (see Sergio Luyk)  
Guys who can shoot, but have no foot speed to defend. (See Max Hooper) 
Guys who can shoot, but can't handle the ball. (See Larry Wright, Avery Paterson or Tareq Coburn) 
Or guys who can shoot well at a lower level, but can't up here (See Stef Smith, Vince Cole, John Hempel) 
 

 

[bucketshardy]

I am leaning minimum 38%

Then unless you're dealing with an NBA prospect (and there will likely be no NBA prospects in the transfer portal), you're going to be getting a player with a hole (or several) in his game. 

To put it in SJU transfer perspective: For every Reggie Carter out there, there are 20 John Hempels. 

Guys who can shoot, but can't create their own shot. (see Sergio Luyk)  
Guys who can shoot, but have no foot speed to defend. (See Max Hooper) 
Guys who can shoot, but can't handle the ball. (See Larry Wright, Avery Paterson or Tareq Coburn) 
Or guys who can shoot well at a lower level, but can't up here (See Stef Smith, Vince Cole, John Hempel) 

 

this! this is a good take. This is why i asked my question- for all those that want a shooter.... what's your definition of a shooter? 

A great percentage at a lower level- might not translate with better defense the BE level. Wheeler.... who never averaged more than 5 pts at Purdue and shot under 30% from 3.... ended up being what i thought was our most reliable option from long range at season end. 

Will be interesting to see what the staff finds.

 

[austour]

I am leaning minimum 38%

Then unless you're dealing with an NBA prospect (and there will likely be no NBA prospects in the transfer portal), you're going to be getting a player with a hole (or several) in his game. 

To put it in SJU transfer perspective: For every Reggie Carter out there, there are 20 John Hempels. 

Guys who can shoot, but can't create their own shot. (see Sergio Luyk)  
Guys who can shoot, but have no foot speed to defend. (See Max Hooper) 
Guys who can shoot, but can't handle the ball. (See Larry Wright, Avery Paterson or Tareq Coburn) 
Or guys who can shoot well at a lower level, but can't up here (See Stef Smith, Vince Cole, John Hempel) 


 

this! this is a good take. This is why i asked my question- for all those that want a shooter.... what's your definition of a shooter? 

A great percentage at a lower level- might not translate with better defense the BE level. Wheeler.... who never averaged more than 5 pts at Purdue and shot under 30% from 3.... ended up being what i thought was our most reliable option from long range at season end. 

Will be interesting to see what the staff finds.
 

Like a wise (or maybe unwise, I don't know) man once said, I don't know that I can define what it is but I'll know it when I see it.

 

[mm52]

That is a huge problem.  We need less clones of Posh and Wusu.  Mathis was a clone and didnt work here.
We have enough Posh and Wusu type players.  We need kids who can shoot the lights out or this team will have the same problems as always.

As this NCAA tournament has shown us, you can never have enough quality defenders.

All 4 teams remaining are better offensively than they are defensively, as were 10 of the 16 teams that made the sweet 16.
 

I am not so sure that is true with respect to Nova.  And Kansas' defense in the second half against Miami is what won the game for them.  IDK enough about Duke and UNC because I can't stand watching them.

 

[boo haarvey]

You know what they call a 6'6"+ 40% 3PT shooter who can create his own shot?

An NBA player. 

I don't think you guys have any idea what it takes to: "get shooters."

Vince Cole was an awesome JUCO shooter. Couldn't get it off quick enough against top D1 talent. 

Stef Smith was an awesome mid-major shooter. Couldn't get it off quick enough against top D1 talent.

Fred Lyson was an awesome high school shooter. Couldn't get it off quick enough against top D1 talent.

And on and on and on....

Stef Smith had no trouble getting his shot off .  He struggled shooting the ball this year against mid-level as well as high-level competition 
 

 

[austour]

MHO is that to be a great team you have to be some level of proficient on both sides of the ball.

 

[ohiofan]

We need a two home runs, not singles to compete next year, perhaps triples

I agree with you. 

But if this is the case (and it’s very likely we don’t get any difference makers) why are we bringing Anderson back for a 4th year? 

Mind numbingly dumb. 

There are plenty of other threads to discuss CMA this is about transfers. Any other posts on this topic in this thread will be removed.

My post was discussing transfers though. The fact that we won’t be able to land any impact ones and it ties into CMA because he’s the coach of the team…

But keep singling out people with a different opinion than you. Really good look for this forum…

The issue is not what you said, it is the constant repetition of the same thing, in different ways. That is considered spamming the board. So, just to make it official, please consider this as a formal warning.