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Zendon Hamilton
Why not ask PJ, maybe he`d coach 3 or 4 years and groom his top assistant in those years to maybe replace him.
People say oh he wouldn`t go back to college, but wtf do they know? Do they know him personally?
People said oh Larry Brown wouldn`t go back to the college ranks, and where is he now? At SMU.
So why not ask him, would it hurt to call and ask?
Yes, it would hurt because it would be a distraction from the objective of moving the program forward.
It's a good idea; but in the same vain you could ask why don't the Jets contact Joe Gibbs or the Rangers call Mike Keenan. Because, they, like us, want the coach who's positioned to succeed in 2015 not in 1995.
Larry Brown is a hall of famer who has been a mercenary and a nomad his entire career. That is not PJ.
Also, PJ is willing to make a lot of money as an nba assistant.
Larry brown was never going to be anyone's assistant.
Either way, I have zero confidence that PJ could or would do what it takes to recruit in this day and age.
basketballjones
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Interestingly......Steve Lavin. That's one of the reasons he was hired. However, it hasn't worked out that well so far to say the least. Assuming it doesn't work out with Lavin, I'd try for Danny Hurley because of his history in the metropolitan area. Also, I'd go for a top assistant. A guys who's run a program as a head coach of a mid major and then has been a top assistant somewhere. I know we've been down the road on assistants before, but the right guy could be successful. Somebody mentioned Dwayne Stephens at Michigan State, but he probably will get Izzo's job in a few years. Tim Jankovich at SMU had run a successful program at Illinois State before becoming Larry Brown's top assistant.
MarkRedman
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Please be sure to speak with Bill Walton when checking his references
Come on really, coaches in NYC today dont know who Chris Mullin is? If they dont, they have no sense of NYC basketball history. How about the fact that he does games on TV also. Also, does Mullin know how to recruit? Really, isnt that what good assitants are for? Then you bring in Mullin to close the deal. Im sorry guys, look around the league, most of the coaches are former players. Yes, not every player can be a great coach, but Mullie brings so much to the table that it would be a no brainer to give him the job if in fact we do part with Lav ( who i still support ) and if Mullie would take the position. Two names that are thrown around that i do really like though are seth greenberg and PJ calisimo. doubt either would want the Johnnie job. Mullie has his kid here and family still around here and never count out Louie. Im just saying....btw, look back, I had Coach Lav pegged as next coach way before any decision was made. I also think its up to these players to play up to their potential, like i said before, Lav has made some mistakes, but these players are the ones that can right the ship.
Yeah, no reason at all to be in favor of a guy who was 89-40, 38-26 in the bigger version of the Big East (76-25, 33-15 after his first season reclaiming the program from the dregs) with two league titles and two Sweet 16s, followed by 230-105, 118-58 in the PAC-10 (219-88 after his first season reclaiming the program from the mess left by none other than Steve Lavin), with four league titles and 7 NCAA appearances in 10 years including three Final Fours and a championship game appearance.
That would definitely not be an improvement over any coach St Johns has had since, let me think, Joe Lapchick ... 48 years ago.
UCLA fans laughed at us for hiring Lavin, and they were right. I agreed with them on that one from the start. However IMHO the issue with Howland there wasn't him, but instead was UCLA. They aren't going to do any better, and it would be a huge step forward for St. John's.
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks (Big Sky Conference) (1994–1999)
1994–1995 Northern Arizona 9–17 4–10 7th
1995–1996 Northern Arizona 7–19 3–11 7th
1996–1997 Northern Arizona 21–7 13–1 1st NIT 1st Round
1997–1998 Northern Arizona 21–8 12–2 1st NCAA 1st Round
1998–1999 Northern Arizona 21–8 12–4 2nd
Northern Arizona: 79–59 44–28
Pittsburgh Panthers (Big East Conference) (1999–2003)
1999–2000 Pittsburgh 13–15 5–11 11th
2000–2001 Pittsburgh 19–14 7–9 5th (West) NIT 2nd Round
2001–2002 Pittsburgh 29–6 13–3 1st (West) NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–2003 Pittsburgh 28–5 13–3 T–1st (West) NCAA Sweet Sixteen
Pittsburgh: 89–40 38–26
UCLA Bruins (Pacific-10/12 Conference) (2003–2013)
2003–2004 UCLA 11–17 7–11 T–7th
2004–2005 UCLA 18–11 11–7 T–3rd NCAA 1st Round
2005–2006 UCLA 32–7 14–4 1st NCAA Runner-up
2006–2007 UCLA 30–6 15–3 1st NCAA Final Four
2007–2008 UCLA 35–4 16–2 1st NCAA Final Four
2008–2009 UCLA 26–9 13–5 2nd NCAA 2nd Round
2009–2010 UCLA 14–18 8–10 T–5th
2010–2011 UCLA 23–11 13–5 2nd NCAA 2nd Round
2011–2012 UCLA 19–14 11–7 T–5th
2012–2013 UCLA 25–9 13–5 1st NCAA 1st Round
UCLA: 230–105 118–58
Total: 398–205
I don't understand the argument that we can't "afford" to hire a coach who isn't proven at the high-major level. Why not? What do we have to lose?
We've had 1 good season in a decade plus. And because of this we need to hire Seth Greenberg, Ben Howland, or Larry Brown?
Or else what? We won't win? No one will attend games? Umm......
Texas can't afford to hire an unproven coach; their boosters will revolt and stop giving to the program, it'll be a stain on a storied program, and they could permanently lose a generation of HS football recruits.
SJU is not Texas football. We should hire the best person available. Even if it means taking a shot on someone that has the attributes and characteristics to succeed.
I mentioned this before, but Mike Tomlin was a defensive coordinator for the Vikings for one season... then the Steelers hired him as HC. Never before a head coach, only one season as a coordinator even. And they made him the youngest head coach in the NFL, for one of the most storied programs in the game.
Why? He had what they were looking for in a future HC.
That's what SJU should be looking for. Be it Hurley, Maisello, Antigua, Greg Gard, Dwayne Stephens etc. Just pick the right guy. Sometimes it requires balls to do that. I don't buy for a second this garbage we can't afford to hire someone who hasn't proven themselves in a big conference.
We've had 1 good season in a decade plus. And because of this we need to hire Seth Greenberg, Ben Howland, or Larry Brown?
Or else what? We won't win? No one will attend games? Umm......
Texas can't afford to hire an unproven coach; their boosters will revolt and stop giving to the program, it'll be a stain on a storied program, and they could permanently lose a generation of HS football recruits.
SJU is not Texas football. We should hire the best person available. Even if it means taking a shot on someone that has the attributes and characteristics to succeed.
I mentioned this before, but Mike Tomlin was a defensive coordinator for the Vikings for one season... then the Steelers hired him as HC. Never before a head coach, only one season as a coordinator even. And they made him the youngest head coach in the NFL, for one of the most storied programs in the game.
Why? He had what they were looking for in a future HC.
That's what SJU should be looking for. Be it Hurley, Maisello, Antigua, Greg Gard, Dwayne Stephens etc. Just pick the right guy. Sometimes it requires balls to do that. I don't buy for a second this garbage we can't afford to hire someone who hasn't proven themselves in a big conference.
