Techs and refs

[quote="Moose" post=326554][quote="Beast of the East" post=326548][quote="Moose" post=326547][quote="Beast of the East" post=326542][quote="Moose" post=326521][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]

Last night was the first time I ever really saw him. I mean he was with Mullin at midcourt pulling him back. It was either Greg or Mitch there as well. Not sure why I can't remember who. Would be shocked if it was Mitch to be honest. Unless the chair was broke.:whistle:[/quote]

It was actually 3 or 4 guys and they weren't holding Mulling back at all. Mullin was just very hot and they were just trying to corral him and keep him from getting another T. No one physically restrained him, wasn't like he was out of control.

The one thing I will say is most of the time when Mullin is bitching at refs I agree with the bad call he is protesting. Some are just pretty ridiculously bad, and as a fan I get pretty hot too. (At MSG Sunday a nasty old woman a supposed sju fan turned to be at halftime and lectured me that I think every call against St. John's ius a bad call). But I'm a fan and entitled so long as I don't bother people around me (Another subject - fans who do that really effing annoy me with stupid loud comments all game). But Mullin is a coach, not a fan, and he really has to move past being obsessed with bad calls and the refs and focus on coaching.

All coaches, and I mean ALL, bitch and moan at refs. When you do it continually, unless you back it up with a perennially ranked team that gets you privilege (see Boeheim) refs start to disrespect you and become vindictive. I'm not saying Chris should stop it, but just tone it down about 40%[/quote]

Come on. What is the difference between corral as you say and me saying holding back? It's the same thing and you know it. Yes he wasn't charging at the officials. But when one coach is standing between you and him and the other is tugging at his arm I'd say it's holding back. Let's agree on that.

When it was shown on TV it was 2 coaches. Not 3 or 4. But you were there and if you say 3 or 4 I'll defer to you. When shown on TV is all I can speak to was what I saw and there was nobody else close in the shot.[/quote]

Not attacking you, but didn't want others to think that Mullin had to be physically restrained. This wasn't Jeff Van Gundy wrapping his arms around someone's legs to keep them off the court.

I'm just tired.. Are you?[/quote]

Definitely wasn't Van Gundy esque. But I do feel he's becoming more demonstrative as season goes on. Stress is showing more than ever. Case in point you saying he needs to scale it back 40%. That's a significant number.

And yes I'm tired. Very tired after the last 4 years.[/quote]

Good for you that it's only 4 years. I'm tired after the last 17
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=326559][quote="Moose" post=326554][quote="Beast of the East" post=326548][quote="Moose" post=326547][quote="Beast of the East" post=326542][quote="Moose" post=326521][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]

Last night was the first time I ever really saw him. I mean he was with Mullin at midcourt pulling him back. It was either Greg or Mitch there as well. Not sure why I can't remember who. Would be shocked if it was Mitch to be honest. Unless the chair was broke.:whistle:[/quote]

It was actually 3 or 4 guys and they weren't holding Mulling back at all. Mullin was just very hot and they were just trying to corral him and keep him from getting another T. No one physically restrained him, wasn't like he was out of control.

The one thing I will say is most of the time when Mullin is bitching at refs I agree with the bad call he is protesting. Some are just pretty ridiculously bad, and as a fan I get pretty hot too. (At MSG Sunday a nasty old woman a supposed sju fan turned to be at halftime and lectured me that I think every call against St. John's ius a bad call). But I'm a fan and entitled so long as I don't bother people around me (Another subject - fans who do that really effing annoy me with stupid loud comments all game). But Mullin is a coach, not a fan, and he really has to move past being obsessed with bad calls and the refs and focus on coaching.

All coaches, and I mean ALL, bitch and moan at refs. When you do it continually, unless you back it up with a perennially ranked team that gets you privilege (see Boeheim) refs start to disrespect you and become vindictive. I'm not saying Chris should stop it, but just tone it down about 40%[/quote]

Come on. What is the difference between corral as you say and me saying holding back? It's the same thing and you know it. Yes he wasn't charging at the officials. But when one coach is standing between you and him and the other is tugging at his arm I'd say it's holding back. Let's agree on that.

When it was shown on TV it was 2 coaches. Not 3 or 4. But you were there and if you say 3 or 4 I'll defer to you. When shown on TV is all I can speak to was what I saw and there was nobody else close in the shot.[/quote]

Not attacking you, but didn't want others to think that Mullin had to be physically restrained. This wasn't Jeff Van Gundy wrapping his arms around someone's legs to keep them off the court.

I'm just tired.. Are you?[/quote]

Definitely wasn't Van Gundy esque. But I do feel he's becoming more demonstrative as season goes on. Stress is showing more than ever. Case in point you saying he needs to scale it back 40%. That's a significant number.

And yes I'm tired. Very tired after the last 4 years.[/quote]

Good for you that it's only 4 years. I'm tired after the last 17[/quote]

Yea I'm tired of the 18/19 years I've been a fan for sure. 2 tournaments in that time. But I enjoyed the Lavin years.
 
The last two games that this ref Nathan Farrell has done at CA, the combined free throw attempts are 61 for the visitors, 11 for St. John's.

Even if you think Mullin is 100% in the wrong for this, that just can't be. That's just not a fair whistle. Taking care of that has to come first, IMO, then you deal with Mullin screaming and yelling.
 
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[quote="Moose" post=326560][quote="Beast of the East" post=326559][quote="Moose" post=326554][quote="Beast of the East" post=326548][quote="Moose" post=326547][quote="Beast of the East" post=326542][quote="Moose" post=326521][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]

Last night was the first time I ever really saw him. I mean he was with Mullin at midcourt pulling him back. It was either Greg or Mitch there as well. Not sure why I can't remember who. Would be shocked if it was Mitch to be honest. Unless the chair was broke.:whistle:[/quote]

It was actually 3 or 4 guys and they weren't holding Mulling back at all. Mullin was just very hot and they were just trying to corral him and keep him from getting another T. No one physically restrained him, wasn't like he was out of control.

The one thing I will say is most of the time when Mullin is bitching at refs I agree with the bad call he is protesting. Some are just pretty ridiculously bad, and as a fan I get pretty hot too. (At MSG Sunday a nasty old woman a supposed sju fan turned to be at halftime and lectured me that I think every call against St. John's ius a bad call). But I'm a fan and entitled so long as I don't bother people around me (Another subject - fans who do that really effing annoy me with stupid loud comments all game). But Mullin is a coach, not a fan, and he really has to move past being obsessed with bad calls and the refs and focus on coaching.

All coaches, and I mean ALL, bitch and moan at refs. When you do it continually, unless you back it up with a perennially ranked team that gets you privilege (see Boeheim) refs start to disrespect you and become vindictive. I'm not saying Chris should stop it, but just tone it down about 40%[/quote]

Come on. What is the difference between corral as you say and me saying holding back? It's the same thing and you know it. Yes he wasn't charging at the officials. But when one coach is standing between you and him and the other is tugging at his arm I'd say it's holding back. Let's agree on that.

When it was shown on TV it was 2 coaches. Not 3 or 4. But you were there and if you say 3 or 4 I'll defer to you. When shown on TV is all I can speak to was what I saw and there was nobody else close in the shot.[/quote]

Not attacking you, but didn't want others to think that Mullin had to be physically restrained. This wasn't Jeff Van Gundy wrapping his arms around someone's legs to keep them off the court.

I'm just tired.. Are you?[/quote]

Definitely wasn't Van Gundy esque. But I do feel he's becoming more demonstrative as season goes on. Stress is showing more than ever. Case in point you saying he needs to scale it back 40%. That's a significant number.

And yes I'm tired. Very tired after the last 4 years.[/quote]

Good for you that it's only 4 years. I'm tired after the last 17[/quote]

Yea I'm tired of the 18/19 years I've been a fan for sure. 2 tournaments in that time. But I enjoyed the Lavin years.[/quote]
Glad Moose is back posting regularly, well sort of :)
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=326572][quote="Moose" post=326560][quote="Beast of the East" post=326559][quote="Moose" post=326554][quote="Beast of the East" post=326548][quote="Moose" post=326547][quote="Beast of the East" post=326542][quote="Moose" post=326521][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]

Last night was the first time I ever really saw him. I mean he was with Mullin at midcourt pulling him back. It was either Greg or Mitch there as well. Not sure why I can't remember who. Would be shocked if it was Mitch to be honest. Unless the chair was broke.:whistle:[/quote]

It was actually 3 or 4 guys and they weren't holding Mulling back at all. Mullin was just very hot and they were just trying to corral him and keep him from getting another T. No one physically restrained him, wasn't like he was out of control.

The one thing I will say is most of the time when Mullin is bitching at refs I agree with the bad call he is protesting. Some are just pretty ridiculously bad, and as a fan I get pretty hot too. (At MSG Sunday a nasty old woman a supposed sju fan turned to be at halftime and lectured me that I think every call against St. John's ius a bad call). But I'm a fan and entitled so long as I don't bother people around me (Another subject - fans who do that really effing annoy me with stupid loud comments all game). But Mullin is a coach, not a fan, and he really has to move past being obsessed with bad calls and the refs and focus on coaching.

All coaches, and I mean ALL, bitch and moan at refs. When you do it continually, unless you back it up with a perennially ranked team that gets you privilege (see Boeheim) refs start to disrespect you and become vindictive. I'm not saying Chris should stop it, but just tone it down about 40%[/quote]

Come on. What is the difference between corral as you say and me saying holding back? It's the same thing and you know it. Yes he wasn't charging at the officials. But when one coach is standing between you and him and the other is tugging at his arm I'd say it's holding back. Let's agree on that.

When it was shown on TV it was 2 coaches. Not 3 or 4. But you were there and if you say 3 or 4 I'll defer to you. When shown on TV is all I can speak to was what I saw and there was nobody else close in the shot.[/quote]

Not attacking you, but didn't want others to think that Mullin had to be physically restrained. This wasn't Jeff Van Gundy wrapping his arms around someone's legs to keep them off the court.

I'm just tired.. Are you?[/quote]

Definitely wasn't Van Gundy esque. But I do feel he's becoming more demonstrative as season goes on. Stress is showing more than ever. Case in point you saying he needs to scale it back 40%. That's a significant number.

And yes I'm tired. Very tired after the last 4 years.[/quote]

Good for you that it's only 4 years. I'm tired after the last 17[/quote]

Yea I'm tired of the 18/19 years I've been a fan for sure. 2 tournaments in that time. But I enjoyed the Lavin years.[/quote]
Glad Moose is back posting regularly, well sort of :)
[/quote]

Was I called for the foul?
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=326381]This probably won't be a popular post but I am sick and tired of Mullin's antics on the bench. He argues almost every call that goes against St John's. I've nicknamed him Boeheim Jr. It has been said that a team takes on the personality of it's coach. Well, I'm equally unhappy with the constant complaining and antics of our players when they are whistled for a foul. Mullin and the kids certainly aren't endearing themselves to the refs and, for better or worse, the refs control the game.

While the officiating was poor, we lost for a lot of reasons. Just a few:

1. Our best player scored 2 points in the first half and our second best player didn't play
2. We got killed on the boards. They scored way too many points on offensive put backs
3. We didn't shoot a single free throw until there was 12:30 left in the game
4. We were a step slow all game. They got the majority of 50-50 balls
5. They played harder and smarter and seemed to want it more than we did

We don't match up well with teams that have decent big guys. This was another such case
With our last 2 regular season games on the road, we will have trouble winning either one[/quote]

This post is exactly on point.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=326569]The last two games that this ref Nathan Farrell has done at CA, the combined free throw attempts are 61 for the visitors, 11 for St. John's.

Even if you think Mullin is 100% in the wrong for this, that just can't be. That's just not a fair whistle. Taking care of that has to come first, IMO, then you deal with Mullin screaming and yelling.[/quote]

Look, I get the disparity in foul calls. But we have to recognize that bigger teams just physically beat us up. Be it pc, x or dep. They're not just taller, they're brawnier and can out muscle us and wear us down. The result is we foul and give up too many offensive rebounds. And when Chris starts his complaining and gesticulating it starts to wear on the refs. Compound that fact that most of the team have become world class complainers and act up, a lot. It's a recipe for disaster.

His first year Chris got away with a lot with the refs, but their tolerance level has grown shorter and shorter. Right or wrong, the refs hold us on a much tighter leash when it comes to the complaining and antics. We have to recognize that and control it. This lack of self control could cost us a game down the stretch. We can't afford to let that happen.
 
[quote="Moose" post=326574][quote="Paultzman" post=326572][quote="Moose" post=326560][quote="Beast of the East" post=326559][quote="Moose" post=326554][quote="Beast of the East" post=326548][quote="Moose" post=326547][quote="Beast of the East" post=326542][quote="Moose" post=326521][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]

Last night was the first time I ever really saw him. I mean he was with Mullin at midcourt pulling him back. It was either Greg or Mitch there as well. Not sure why I can't remember who. Would be shocked if it was Mitch to be honest. Unless the chair was broke.:whistle:[/quote]

It was actually 3 or 4 guys and they weren't holding Mulling back at all. Mullin was just very hot and they were just trying to corral him and keep him from getting another T. No one physically restrained him, wasn't like he was out of control.

The one thing I will say is most of the time when Mullin is bitching at refs I agree with the bad call he is protesting. Some are just pretty ridiculously bad, and as a fan I get pretty hot too. (At MSG Sunday a nasty old woman a supposed sju fan turned to be at halftime and lectured me that I think every call against St. John's ius a bad call). But I'm a fan and entitled so long as I don't bother people around me (Another subject - fans who do that really effing annoy me with stupid loud comments all game). But Mullin is a coach, not a fan, and he really has to move past being obsessed with bad calls and the refs and focus on coaching.

All coaches, and I mean ALL, bitch and moan at refs. When you do it continually, unless you back it up with a perennially ranked team that gets you privilege (see Boeheim) refs start to disrespect you and become vindictive. I'm not saying Chris should stop it, but just tone it down about 40%[/quote]

Come on. What is the difference between corral as you say and me saying holding back? It's the same thing and you know it. Yes he wasn't charging at the officials. But when one coach is standing between you and him and the other is tugging at his arm I'd say it's holding back. Let's agree on that.

When it was shown on TV it was 2 coaches. Not 3 or 4. But you were there and if you say 3 or 4 I'll defer to you. When shown on TV is all I can speak to was what I saw and there was nobody else close in the shot.[/quote]

Not attacking you, but didn't want others to think that Mullin had to be physically restrained. This wasn't Jeff Van Gundy wrapping his arms around someone's legs to keep them off the court.

I'm just tired.. Are you?[/quote]

Definitely wasn't Van Gundy esque. But I do feel he's becoming more demonstrative as season goes on. Stress is showing more than ever. Case in point you saying he needs to scale it back 40%. That's a significant number.

And yes I'm tired. Very tired after the last 4 years.[/quote]

Good for you that it's only 4 years. I'm tired after the last 17[/quote]

Yea I'm tired of the 18/19 years I've been a fan for sure. 2 tournaments in that time. But I enjoyed the Lavin years.[/quote]
Glad Moose is back posting regularly, well sort of :)
[/quote]

Was I called for the foul?[/quote]

Depends. Are you wearing a St. John's jersey or a jersey of the other team? :cheer: ;) :p
 
[quote="Section9" post=326579][quote="SJU61982" post=326569]The last two games that this ref Nathan Farrell has done at CA, the combined free throw attempts are 61 for the visitors, 11 for St. John's.

Even if you think Mullin is 100% in the wrong for this, that just can't be. That's just not a fair whistle. Taking care of that has to come first, IMO, then you deal with Mullin screaming and yelling.[/quote]

Look, I get the disparity in foul calls. But we have to recognize that bigger teams just physically beat us up. Be it pc, x or dep. They're not just taller, they're brawnier and can out muscle us and wear us down. The result is we foul and give up too many offensive rebounds. And when Chris starts his complaining and gesticulating it starts to wear on the refs. Compound that fact that most of the team have become world class complainers and act up, a lot. It's a recipe for disaster.

His first year Chris got away with a lot with the refs, but their tolerance level has grown shorter and shorter. Right or wrong, the refs hold us on a much tighter leash when it comes to the complaining and antics. We have to recognize that and control it. This lack of self control could cost us a game down the stretch. We can't afford to let that happen.[/quote]

If that's the case, it's going to take Mullin a long time to get back in these guys' good graces, maybe too long for him to survive here. So, he might as well continue doing what he's doing.

And, what was the Norm Roberts excuse? He never said anything to the refs for a long time here, and I always thought our teams got walked over because of that. Any 50/50 call would go against us, because the refs knew he wouldn't say anything afterwords. Now there were some different refs back then, but some of those guys are still around.

I'm sorry 50 less FTs in two games can't be chalked up to just being a smaller team. And if it is attitude, then the refs are no better then our guys, IMO.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]
Guess is he is the git back coach.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=326588][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]
Guess is he is the git back coach.[/quote]

Hahaha I was being serious. He seems to be really involved for a GA. Most GAs are quiet and reserved.
Funny story, my first game coaching JUCO as the 2nd assistant, I was warned with a tech for questioning the ref on a blatantly missed call. It was terrifying because I had a small role that was just scouting and game prep and I didn't even know someone in my position could be called for a tech.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=326594][quote="bamafan" post=326588][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]
Guess is he is the git back coach.[/quote]

Hahaha I was being serious. He seems to be really involved for a GA. Most GAs are quiet and reserved.
Funny story, my first game coaching JUCO as the 2nd assistant, I was warned with a tech for questioning the ref on a blatantly missed call. It was terrifying because I had a small role that was just scouting and game prep and I didn't even know someone in my position could be called for a tech.[/quote]

That's why, even if I could afford it, I would never want to sit courtside. I'd be escorted out of every game.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=326595][quote="Marillac" post=326594][quote="bamafan" post=326588][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]
Guess is he is the git back coach.[/quote]

Hahaha I was being serious. He seems to be really involved for a GA. Most GAs are quiet and reserved.
Funny story, my first game coaching JUCO as the 2nd assistant, I was warned with a tech for questioning the ref on a blatantly missed call. It was terrifying because I had a small role that was just scouting and game prep and I didn't even know someone in my position could be called for a tech.[/quote]

That's why, even if I could afford it, I would never want to sit courtside. I'd be escorted out of every game.[/quote]

Lol. That’d be me as well!
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=326600][quote="SJU61982" post=326595][quote="Marillac" post=326594][quote="bamafan" post=326588][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]
Guess is he is the git back coach.[/quote]

Hahaha I was being serious. He seems to be really involved for a GA. Most GAs are quiet and reserved.
Funny story, my first game coaching JUCO as the 2nd assistant, I was warned with a tech for questioning the ref on a blatantly missed call. It was terrifying because I had a small role that was just scouting and game prep and I didn't even know someone in my position could be called for a tech.[/quote]

That's why, even if I could afford it, I would never want to sit courtside. I'd be escorted out of every game.[/quote]

Lol. That’d be me as well![/quote]

Hahaha our fans are brutal. I heard like ten fans all game like they were wearing microphones. It was savage!
 
[quote="Marillac" post=326603][quote="Chicago Days" post=326600][quote="SJU61982" post=326595][quote="Marillac" post=326594][quote="bamafan" post=326588][quote="Marillac" post=326519][quote="Moose" post=326516]Everyone keeps talking about the coaching box issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but that was just a warning. It didn't have any direct or even indirect impact on the game. Instead of popping a fit and pushing the issue you return to your coaching box and move on.

(BTW) found it interesting that a GA was trying to pull Mullin back.

The tech on Mullin and Ponds pretty much sealed the game.[/quote]

Who is that GA and why is he so involved?[/quote]
Guess is he is the git back coach.[/quote]

Hahaha I was being serious. He seems to be really involved for a GA. Most GAs are quiet and reserved.
Funny story, my first game coaching JUCO as the 2nd assistant, I was warned with a tech for questioning the ref on a blatantly missed call. It was terrifying because I had a small role that was just scouting and game prep and I didn't even know someone in my position could be called for a tech.[/quote]

That's why, even if I could afford it, I would never want to sit courtside. I'd be escorted out of every game.[/quote]

Lol. That’d be me as well![/quote]

Hahaha our fans are brutal. I heard like ten fans all game like they were wearing microphones. It was savage![/quote]

Well, I was not one of them, because there was young kid (like, elementary school age) sitting two seats from me last night, so I didn't yell, because I wanted to watch my language. I was more into wild gesticulations on the bad calls last night.
 
On television, it looked like a primal scream group session.
Sure miss home games officiated by the beloved Steve Honzo.
 
i just re watched the game and there were at least 7 or 8 50/50 calls and everyone of them went against the home team! Unbelievable! im a glutten for punishment!
 
Complaints against the referees are not warranted. Ponds kills the clock dribbling 30 feet from the basket until about 15 seconds. Then we have to scramble for a shot, usually a hoist from deep. That is not a good way to draw fouls. Our style is not conducive to drawing, hence the disparity.

At one point Mullen was in the saying set the ball to the high post and drive to draw fouls. I remember only one entry pass to Clark who dropped it to Roberts for a dunk.
 
[quote="Rehobie" post=326628]Complaints against the referees are not warranted. Ponds kills the clock dribbling 30 feet from the basket until about 15 seconds. Then we have to scramble for a shot, usually a hoist from deep. That is not a good way to draw fouls. Our style is not conducive to drawing, hence the disparity.

At one point Mullen was in the saying set the ball to the high post and drive to draw fouls. I remember only one entry pass to Clark who dropped it to Roberts for a dunk.[/quote]

Yes, there are concerns about the way we play. It's not mutually exclusive to the refs being lousy, though.

We drove many times in the first half last night, drew contact, and no call. That's what turned us into the type of team you're describing.
 
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