SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities

[Money]

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1390679325230436357

Based on his stats, it appears we would have been better to keep Dunn.

Hmm, astute observation!  Don't think he has committed, so not sure why the comparison.  Second, maybe Dunn didn't want to be kept!!! 

 

[lawmanfan]

 
Based on his stats, it appears we would have been better to keep Dunn.

There's a lot more to figuring out if a guy can (a) play at this level; and (b) is a fit for what you want to do than just looking at stats.

[Not directed at you in particular, Boo - it's been on my mind from a number of posts in the last month or so, just took the opportunity to quote yours to say my piece is all.]

 

[Wolfie]

Kills recruiting after a certain point too, unless it becomes juco city toward the end.


Doubt it'll bear fruit, but noticed Hartford lost to UCONN, Nova, and Baylor last season, as expected, but Austin Williams did much better than Moses Flowers except in the UCONN game: 2pts vs 24; otherwise Flowers either didn't play or didn't show up while Williams posted 11 and 19 against Nova and Baylor, and scored 25 in a win against Vermont in the AET. Just fyi, Stef Smith scored 11 in that game.
 

 

[IDRAFT]

I believe too much emphasis goes into how these mid-major guys do in a game here or there against a higher level school.. I’ve seen many mid-major guys go for 20 at Carnesecca while SJU goes through the motions for the first thirty minutes. I don’t think these tiny sample sizes mean a guy can play at a higher level.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I believe too much emphasis goes into how these mid-major guys do in a game here or there against a higher level school.. I’ve seen many mid-major guys go for 20 at Carnesecca while SJU goes through the motions for the first thirty minutes. I don’t think these tiny sample sizes mean a guy can play at a higher level.

I agree. For me it’s more of if they're capable not really what they’re capable of. The few occurrences they may play real well are usually equaled by as many duds against weak teams. But if a guy has more than a couple chances vs big schools and had nothing but poor games. That would be worrisome.

 

[NCJohnnie]

IDRAFT wrote: 
I believe too much emphasis goes into how these mid-major guys do in a game here or there against a higher level school.. I’ve seen many mid-major guys go for 20 at Carnesecca while SJU goes through the motions for the first thirty minutes. I don’t think these tiny sample sizes mean a guy can play at a higher level.

Completely agree if it's only a few games. We've had ample evidence with our Johnnies that success of kids transferring to the Big East from lower level competition is a very mixed bag. This is where staff does their thing and hopefully makes the right call. One thing you can be pretty sure of is if they can't shoot the three or run the show w/o turning it over a lot, they won't be able to do it at the Big East level either. 
 

 

[L J S A]

https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1390688820278947846

So, we can take him off the list as well.

Looks like those high major schools weren't willing to make the commitment he was wanting.  I thought his interview he did with 247 was odd, he said based on what he's done he wants a commitment from his new school, basically saying he's wanting a commitment on a starting spot and minutes.  

A lot of these low/mid-major kids moving up are in for a rude awakening, they think just because they scored a lot in a bad conference that they can move up to high majors and make demands, most high major coaches ain't playing that, you going to have to come in a prove you can play at the higher level, nothing is going to be given to you.

I've never seen him, but I've come to the conclusion that you are most likely doomed to fail moving way up in level if you are not super athletic. You can't just be athletic compared to your conference -- you need to be a blur. High basketball IQ is great, but that alone won't cut it.

 

[Section3]

 
Based on his stats, it appears we would have been better to keep Dunn.

There's a lot more to figuring out if a guy can (a) play at this level; and (b) is a fit for what you want to do than just looking at stats.

[Not directed at you in particular, Boo - it's been on my mind from a number of posts in the last month or so, just took the opportunity to quote yours to say my piece is all.]

Good point. Montez Mathis may be a case in point. May or may not work out but his size and athletic ability may be better suited to our style of play - despite stats, at RU, that some have criticized. In addition to some of his stats, some have pointed to his shot selection as a problem. CMA did well in reining in both Moore and Earlington to our benefit. Moore, in particular, became very efficient. So, as you say, stats don’t always tell the story.

 

[stjohnnie75]

Not a transfer but:

https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1390799249407873025?s=21

 

[boo haarvey]

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1390679325230436357

Based on his stats, it appears we would have been better to keep Dunn.

Hmm, astute observation!  Don't think he has committed, so not sure why the comparison.  Second, maybe Dunn didn't want to be kept!!! 

Thank you, I agree.   I made the comparison because it was reported that we are looking at him and this is a fan board where we express our opinions.  The fact that he hasn’t committed doesn’t render the comparison irrelevant.

I’m not sure why Dunn left and I suspect neither do you.  But he was getting a ton of playing time — more than anybody on the team — and CMA seemed to like and trust him.




 

 

[boo haarvey]

 
Based on his stats, it appears we would have been better to keep Dunn.

There's a lot more to figuring out if a guy can (a) play at this level; and (b) is a fit for what you want to do than just looking at stats.

[Not directed at you in particular, Boo - it's been on my mind from a number of posts in the last month or so, just took the opportunity to quote yours to say my piece is all.]

Good point. Montez Mathis may be a case in point. May or may not work out but his size and athletic ability may be better suited to our style of play - despite stats, at RU, that some have criticized. In addition to some of his stats, some have pointed to his shot selection as a problem. CMA did well in reining in both Moore and Earlington to our benefit. Moore, in particular, became very efficient. So, as you say, stats don’t always tell the story.

Apples and oranges.  Mathis is a tall athletic guard that, by all accounts, fits CMA’s system to a tee.  Not clear to me that he’s an upgrade over Greg, but I’m intrigued.

This kid is the same height as Dunn with similar shooting numbers.  We know that Dunn can play at this level while we don’t know whether this kid can.  I’ve never seen the kid play, but based on the stats and circumstances, I don’t see him as an upgrade.  

 

[paultzman]

Jose Alvarado tweeted: “Wow... I’m going to graduate from college”

Congrats to a very hard working young guy!  Next step .....

 

[gman]

Jose Alvarado tweeted: “Wow... I’m going to graduate from college”

Congrats to a very hard working young guy!  Next step .....

followed by...

”Going to ***”



 

 

[Knight]

Jose Alvarado tweeted: “Wow... I’m going to graduate from college”

Congrats to a very hard working young guy!  Next step .....

Should we be expecting an announcement this week?

 

[Section3]

 
Based on his stats, it appears we would have been better to keep Dunn.

There's a lot more to figuring out if a guy can (a) play at this level; and (b) is a fit for what you want to do than just looking at stats.

[Not directed at you in particular, Boo - it's been on my mind from a number of posts in the last month or so, just took the opportunity to quote yours to say my piece is all.]

Good point. Montez Mathis may be a case in point. May or may not work out but his size and athletic ability may be better suited to our style of play - despite stats, at RU, that some have criticized. In addition to some of his stats, some have pointed to his shot selection as a problem. CMA did well in reining in both Moore and Earlington to our benefit. Moore, in particular, became very efficient. So, as you say, stats don’t always tell the story.

Apples and oranges.  Mathis is a tall athletic guard that, by all accounts, fits CMA’s system to a tee.  Not clear to me that he’s an upgrade over Greg, but I’m intrigued.

This kid is the same height as Dunn with similar shooting numbers.  We know that Dunn can play at this level while we don’t know whether this kid can.  I’ve never seen the kid play, but based on the stats and circumstances, I don’t see him as an upgrade.  

My point wasn’t to make a comparison to anyone on the team. Just to support LMF’s point that stats don’t always tell the story.

In addition, Mathis is 6’4” so bigger than Dunn and has already established that he can play at this level

 

[redfanUpooooooo]

With avatar change should we expect good news Paultz?

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

Jose Alvarado tweeted: “Wow... I’m going to graduate from college”

Congrats to a very hard working young guy!  Next step .....

Should we be expecting an announcement this week?       Graduating from Georgia Tech is no small accomplishment .   It’s one of the best Engineering Colleges in America, within the top 5-10 .  And , overall is within top 50 , easily . Great School Academically . Congrats to Mr Alvarado !  Now jump on the Redmen Train to a BE Championship .

 

[paultzman]

Arbitello is newly named principal of CTK btw

https://twitter.com/ctkcoachjarbs/status/1391145864488538113?s=21

 

[redfan253fff]

Noticed MA and Van both liked his grad post on Twitter...

 

[paultzman]

Per John Fanta: “Yes. I firmly maintain the Red Storm will still be adding another key piece.”

Tick, tick, tick .....