SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities
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Mullins Revenge
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Cole wasnt big or strong enough for the big east.
Ray Morgan
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Mullins Revenge post=426483 said:
Saw a few posts on Twitter that Boston College might be a spot for Cole as he has verbally committed to Earl Grant the new HC out of high school.
Who knows, maybe Moore goes there too..
Who knows, maybe Moore goes there too..
MakingPlays
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I'm kinda surprised that Cole left, he started the majority of the season, had some good moments, I thought with a good off-season he'd be a big contributor next year. Kids are running from the grind these days.Moose post=426480 said:
Who are the other 2 you're speculating? Roberts and McGriff?
I'm not going to lie, if CMA ends up having 5 transfers for a team that had success and suppose to have been a close nit group, it's not really a good look. 2-3 transfers is expected, but more than that and it's almost like a rebuild. Sure if you bring your 2 best players back that's good, but if they are playing with an entirely different group of people and there's no cohesion it may not be a receipe for success.
Fair point.... but what if the kids they bring in.... have actually played together before.... hmmm? lolMakingPlays post=426491 said:
MakingPlays
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I like the way you thinkbucketshardy post=426493 said:
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L J S A
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I didn't realize the assistant was Tony Bergeron. I believe he's the guy who first turned Wings Academy into a top PSAL program. He's engaged to Mitchell's mom. There are also rumors of more UMass defections, so not sure if the coach is on thin ice or if Bergeron will market himself as a guy who can deliver Mitchell if he's part of a package deal.rgs post=426337 said:
MakingPlays
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I highly doubt most schools will lose over half their team this off-season. You figure most schools are going to have at least 2-3 guys graduate and leave. And you're talking about each team then losing an additional 4-5 players to transfer? I don't see that happening. That would mean every school is going into a rebuild year.Moose post=426496 said:
As it stands right now for CMA, he's losing 2 to graduation, he's already lost 3 to transfer, then you're saying he's losing another 2? That's 7 guys gone from the opening night roster, which is over half the roster, that's a pretty high turnover, and you see it took some guys a while to pick-up the defense, it was a rough start to conference play. Integratating 6+ new guys into the system is not going to be a smooth as some of you think, CMA's best teams have always been when he's returned the majority of his roster.
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PharmDJohnnie11
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I think expections really need to be tempered with this coaching staff. I can almost guarantee you we won't land any one of these flashy names everyone is talking about.
We will probably land some under the radar player no one is talking about or a JUCO player. Whoever it is will probably be decent contributor, because Anderson knows how to get the most out of players he targets, for the most part, but I don't think we will be landing anyone too highly rated.
If you're actually thinking we will you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but I've come to accept the fact that this coaching staff is going to land a few 3 star/JUCO players sprinkled in with a rare 4 star player every now and then, and develop them into a respectable team.
We will probably land some under the radar player no one is talking about or a JUCO player. Whoever it is will probably be decent contributor, because Anderson knows how to get the most out of players he targets, for the most part, but I don't think we will be landing anyone too highly rated.
If you're actually thinking we will you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but I've come to accept the fact that this coaching staff is going to land a few 3 star/JUCO players sprinkled in with a rare 4 star player every now and then, and develop them into a respectable team.
MakingPlays
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I believe they can transfer somewhere else and play a year if they want. This year didn't count. I've seen guys in the portal play 4 years at a mid-major and are now transferring to another school instead of playing a 5th at their current school.L J S A post=426500 said:
I do think when they transfer though, it counts against their new school's scholarship limit, however if they stay at current school it doesn't count against the scholarship limit.
MakingPlays post=426498 said:
For multitude of reasons this is a year unlike any else. Obviously losing 7 guys from opening roster is not something you want on a yearly basis. But with graduations and transfers that number is usually about 4-5 anyway. And that’s where we’re at now, who knows what else will transpire?
The two other guys most are speculating about figure to be last 2 on depth chart of returners so I’m also not particularly worried but I wouldn’t be cheering for their exit either. The other 5 guys I would look at as significant losses ranging from “damn that hurts” too “damn we’re cursed”
Moore was somewhat of a loss as a contributor but with his personality clashes and obvious personal issues, we are better off without him on the team. It seems at early glance Nywie is similar size, athleticism to Moore and hopefully also sticks around the basket. I’d caution not to judge too early just because he didn’t play this season. He looks very talented on what of course is limited video and he was good enough to earn a scholarship at a very good Texas Tech program. There has to be something there.
Cole seemed to also have difficulty jiving with the staff. If left wide open he’s deadly, but in the Big East that’s rare. Cole really struggled to separate. I didn’t feel Cole could offer us what we needed at this level except maybe as a shooter off the bench but even as a shooter he struggled to make space and was really poor going to the basket.
With speculation of 2 more, it seems we have an idea of the usual suspects. This is a crazy year for everybody, not just in college ball, and there is going to be more turnover than in the past. I also wouldn’t consider it a coaching nor turnover issue. With CMA starting from scratch here when he arrived at SJU, it is natural progression that as the talent level goes up, some of his earlier recruits would look to find more PT at more appropriate places for their level.
CMA having grabbed 3 HS kids this class is a good thing and now we can look to add players at varying levels and hopefully have a more talented roster overall than last year. Depth is one thing, but quality is more important. Our staff I’m sure is focused on getting better with respect to players leaving and using this and the scholarships as an opportunity to add some legitimate talent to the roster. Having turned down the NIT all focus can be placed on recruiting.
Cole seemed to also have difficulty jiving with the staff. If left wide open he’s deadly, but in the Big East that’s rare. Cole really struggled to separate. I didn’t feel Cole could offer us what we needed at this level except maybe as a shooter off the bench but even as a shooter he struggled to make space and was really poor going to the basket.
With speculation of 2 more, it seems we have an idea of the usual suspects. This is a crazy year for everybody, not just in college ball, and there is going to be more turnover than in the past. I also wouldn’t consider it a coaching nor turnover issue. With CMA starting from scratch here when he arrived at SJU, it is natural progression that as the talent level goes up, some of his earlier recruits would look to find more PT at more appropriate places for their level.
CMA having grabbed 3 HS kids this class is a good thing and now we can look to add players at varying levels and hopefully have a more talented roster overall than last year. Depth is one thing, but quality is more important. Our staff I’m sure is focused on getting better with respect to players leaving and using this and the scholarships as an opportunity to add some legitimate talent to the roster. Having turned down the NIT all focus can be placed on recruiting.
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Moose
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MakingPlays post=426498 said:
The 2 who graduate aren't part of the conversation. They are graduating. That's natural. I read Wisconsin has 6 seniors. Just nature of the beast and the way a team was built.
But in a year where free transfers are allowed across 330 something D1 schools would it really be a shock is schools saw 4 early departures. Schools are given 13 ships. Schools most of the time lets say play 9 guys. That means 3 maybe 4 aren't playing like they want. I don't think its such a crazy statement.
And as someone pointed out in the last page of this thread. As long as they aren't the core guys does it really matter. We lost 2 core guys as of now but if the other 2 aren't then if a tree falls in the forest.........