SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities

mm52 post=430612 said:
Paultzman post=430606 said:
Joel Soriano, per Rumble site

Really good rebounder. Ok finisher inside. Shot blocker. 6'10", quite a few fouls and turnovers, but could be good on a better team with more options. 

[URL]https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4592317/joel-soriano[/URL]

 
Sounds like the scouting report of another A10 big man transfer, Toro.
I didn't read any scouting reports that listed Toro as a 6'10 shot blocker /media/kunena/emoticons/grin.png

I get what you're saying though, one thing when looking at his stats that was concerning to me is he's picking up 3.5 per game in 27 minutes and he averages over 2 turnovers per game, with that said no denying his ability to score in the paint and he's got a big body and he's athletic.  If the staff does research on him and likes him, I don't see anything wrong with picking him up. With the centers that's on the roster as of now he'd compete for a starting spot.
 
So far the staff has gotten several players who have significantly outplayed their HS rankings (Champ, Posh and Wusu), and for that they deserve credit.

That said, transfers (and high ranking HS kids) have been rough thus far. I'm not looking at any one player in particular, but other Big East teams have added bigger names (starters from solid conferences rather than bench players and low-major starters). Unlike with HS recruits, you mostly know what to expect with college transfers. Toro last year for instance I knew wouldn't do much (bench player for GW). This Fordham transfer, however, I think would transition nicely to the Big East. Hope the staff can get this one (or someone similar) done. 
 
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Paultzman post=430630 said:
L J S A post=430629 said:
MCNPA post=430626 said:
big man plants himself down low and has a jump hook too.  He can only get better and looks plenty athletic enough to run in cma’s system.  He will get in even better shape.  I’d grab him in a heartbeat.



Plus if we did get lucky enough to land him and he enjoys his time here and improves under the staff, it potentially opens up another top local school for recruitment.

I wonder if it is a coincidence Van made those two Stepinac offers just prior to Joel entering portal. Stepinac program is a tight knit group. Just thinking.


Who are the two Stepinac offers Paultz??
 
Let me start by saying I love this thread and the hope and speculation of filling our Transfer Portal and graduate vacancies that drive it. However, one thing that seems clear to me about CMA and his process for bringing in players here is that it is generally off the radar of these speculation threads. To use poker terminology CMA does not seem to have a Tell that is easy to read. Of course, I always look at the names that come up on these threads and then diligently do my reading, check out rating lists, read scouting reports and search highlight videos. That all said at the end of the day when CMA typically grabs a player, it is someone who just about no one has mentioned previously.

I think there is a twofold reason for that. First I think CMA has seen the folly in the Isaiah Briscoe method (let's put all our energy into recruiting one big-name recruit against the bluebloods who hold all the cards that we don't) and instead he wants to target players that fit his system, genuinely want to be here and are typically undervalued in some way. Second, he and his staff spend years cultivating relationships that are under the radar and then get mined at the appropriate time. I believe he will pull in several more serviceable players for next year and I will not be shocked if they are pulled in before any of us have them anywhere on our radar. With all of that said keep the names and speculations coming, because as a fan I love it.
 
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Mean Gene post=430635 said:
Paultzman post=430630 said:
L J S A post=430629 said:
MCNPA post=430626 said:
big man plants himself down low and has a jump hook too.  He can only get better and looks plenty athletic enough to run in cma’s system.  He will get in even better shape.  I’d grab him in a heartbeat.



Plus if we did get lucky enough to land him and he enjoys his time here and improves under the staff, it potentially opens up another top local school for recruitment.

I wonder if it is a coincidence Van made those two Stepinac offers just prior to Joel entering portal. Stepinac program is a tight knit group. Just thinking.


Who are the two Stepinac offers Paultz??


Look in 24 recruit section
 
We missed out a #22 recently, a big guy who wasn't a post player...would be nice to snare this #22 who looks like a legitimate big man down low.
 
For everyone upset w us missing on Richmond, with the new transfer rule, expect many kids who aren’t happy w the team they committed to end up back at a runner up. Seton hall was very aggressive recruiting Richmond last year. It is what it is. Hopefully a certain Kansas recruit gets home sick after the season...
 
I like this Fordham guys size and to be blunt I like that he has an offensive game because our bigs the last few seasons (Roberts, Toro, Keita etc) have had very little offensive value. So when they were playing poor defense, it really felt like it was 4 on 5. I'm not saying this guy would disappoint us on defense but if he does at least he looks like he'll be able to get some buckets on the other end. Feels like we haven't had a guy over 6'9 with any sort of offense in awhile.

Edited to add: Well, I guess Moore had some offense but...
 
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Re Soriano, I would also think Rutgers, who lost a big, could be in market for someone like him. Rutgers is considering Paulicap from DePaul right now.
 
 I think the kid can help at this level but not sure how much.  I don't think he will draw double teams.

I like to see SJU do a little better to be honest in the transfer market.

lawmanfan post=430643
I am waiting for Fordham's input on this Fordham guy
 
Unless we bring in a kid who's averaged  10 and 6 (+/-) before at a high D1 level, I refuse to get excited about any other big man from here on out. As far as I'm concerned, anyone else is purely a crap shoot. I'm not going to knock a pick up, I am simply going to reserve judgement. till I see how the kid does here. 
 
Pauly Paulicap--coming from the MAAC--had a decent year with DePaul in 2020. Soriano had better stats in the A10 than Paulicap in the MAAC.
A very simplistic and rough take, but maybe Soriano would do well in the BE as well?
 
 
Roberts,Toro and Keita they tried  but for a long time we were playing  with no
Centers . So,when we see or can get an 1/2 way decent player  6-9 to 6-11 our mind go crazy  like that we  recruited Kareem lol Bottom line we need one badly





 
 
Like the 6'11" 250 lbs part with Soriano and he's only played 2 years so has room to develop, but if he is the best we can do for the big we need, I'll be a little disappointed.  Played 27 mpg but for the worst team in a league a notch or more down from ours. Like Monte, he'll have to prove to me he can play in the BE as I was foolish enough to assume Toro could.
 
Ok - so its coming back to me. I saw Soriano play against Kofi in high school and was very impressed. That was the one and only time I saw him play. I could say the same about the Champagne brothers as juniors at Loughlin. I think this would be a solid pickup. As many like to say this the type of big man that we would complain about playing against. This is not another Toro for sure.
 
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NCJohnnie post=430656 said:
Like the 6'11" 250 lbs part with Soriano and he's only played 2 years so has room to develop, but if he is the best we can do for the big we need, I'll be a little disappointed.  Played 27 mpg but for the worst team in a league a notch or more down from ours. Like Monte, he'll have to prove to me he can play in the BE as I was foolish enough to assume Toro could.
I'll be honest you're probably going to end up being a little disappointed if you think they are going to land a high major big man with great stats.  There aren't but a handful of those guys and they all have ton of $chools on them, if you know what I mean.  Just look at that 6'9 kid from Furman, he had like 30+ schools recruiting him with a lot of high majors in there and he's coming from Furman.  It's not like trying to find a 6'2 SG that has decent stats where there's literally hundreds of those in the portal. 

With big men you basically have 2 options in the transfer market if your a coach like CMA, you can take a project like Aiden that didn't work out at another high major and try to develop him or you can try to land a mid-major guy with decent stats you have connections with that you can develop into something more.  TBH, Soriano may be out of reach, he averaged nearly a double double in just 27 MPG, there's a lot of schools that could use a 6'11 250 kid that can give them a double double.  I bet if you go look in the portal you can count on your hands how many 6'11 or taller kids that are in there that has his number or better.

Also, you guys gotta stop comparing every big man with medicore stats to Toro.  Toro was an undersized, unathletic, back-up center, who had been battling injuries.  Staff brought him in cause he had a big body and was hoping he could help with the rebounding because that was the one thing he did well in the minutes he played in the A-10,  it didn't work out that way and he was way out of his league, however that doesn't mean the next guy will, Soriano is younger, he's only a sophomore, and has already exceeded anything Toro got close to do doing.
 
MCNPA post=430043 said:
As far as being undersized goes, does nobody remember those years where guys like Glover, ty grant etc were our biggest player at like 6’6”? Those days we were truly undersized.  Certainly we need to add one big body in the middle but completed to many past years not as undersized.  


One of my favorites, Charles Minlend. He was a warrior!
 
 
MCNPA post=430043 said:
As far as being undersized goes, does nobody remember those years where guys like Glover, ty grant etc were our biggest player at like 6’6”? Those days we were truly undersized.  Certainly we need to add one big body in the middle but completed to many past years not as undersized.  


One of my favorites, Charles Minlend. He was a warrior!
 
 
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