SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities

Again, as an outlier, I don't know how anyone can claim Greg has "earned" starter minutes.  2 underwhelming seasons and one uneven and inconsistent incomplete.  Who the starters are (or should be) all depends on who exactly is here.  
 
Duke of Earlington post=427830 said:
Knight post=427826 said:
Duke of Earlington post=427824 said:
We cant start losing good big east plays like earlington.  Time for Coach Mike to start promising playing time and starting spots to these kids.

Next season:
Starters:
1- posh
2- gwill
3- Champy
4- Earlington
5- ?

30 minutes a game guaranteed.  Lets go Coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Earn the PT.
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You dont think any of those 4 have earned that?
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Posh and Champy, yes.  Have others earned more time? GW III played 24.8 minutes, Duke, 16.9.
 
Boo Harvey post=427831 said:
This is ruining college basketball.  Wahab leaving GTown?  No continuity at all.  Who wants to watch a bunch of mercenaries play for one year.  

It’s certainly not unique to us, but it seems that we’re losing our whole team.  Part of the joy of being a fan is to watch kids develop.  I remember when we signed Earlington, some knowledgeable posters said he likely won’t produce much right away but could turn into a good four year player.

There is no such thing as a four year player any more!  For me, kids like Earlington are what makes college basketball great.  Watching them develop and contribute.  This one if true would really hurt.   Champagnie will enter the portal — may or may not come back.  We are essentially building a new team.


 
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Boo, I agree with you 100%.  If NCAA passes this rule and doesn't make any adjustments and just allows a mercenary style off-season every year, I may be done with college basketball.  Like you, I enjoy watching the players develop and watching different coaches run different systems and build their teams.  If we're talking every team rebuilding after every year, it's going to turn into nothing more than high level pick-up games and I think I'll pass on that and just stick to NBA.

Also, if they keep this, if I was a coach I wouldn't even recruit high school kids that may need developing because if they don't play and play big minutes right away they will just transfer, it would be a huge waste of time taking a chance on them staying and letting you develop them.  I would just target transfers in the off-season with 2 or 3 years left to play, knowing that I likely get them for those 2-3 years because they already used their free pass.
 
Boo Harvey post=427831 said:
This is ruining college basketball.  Wahab leaving GTown?  No continuity at all.  Who wants to watch a bunch of mercenaries play for one year.  

It’s certainly not unique to us, but it seems that we’re losing our whole team.  Part of the joy of being a fan is to watch kids develop.  I remember when we signed Earlington, some knowledgeable posters said he likely won’t produce much right away but could turn into a good four year player.

There is no such thing as a four year player any more!  For me, kids like Earlington are what makes college basketball great.  Watching them develop and contribute.  This one if true would really hurt.   Champagnie will enter the portal — may or may not come back.  We are essentially building a new team.



 
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I agree this sort of stuff is ruining or can ruin the game.  But you lost me on definitively stating Champagnie entering the portal.  Where is that coming from?
 
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For years we talked about how the system was rigged to the detriment of the kids.  Need to be released from the NLI, intra-conference transfer prohibitions, coaches/schools blocking kids from going to certain schools, the whole sit a year rule, etc...

Now we see the other side.  Yes it probably was a bit restrictive in the past pre-portal, but this is what schools/administrators were afraid of.  
 
Since the immediate eligibility rule is not final the NCAA could admit it is a terrible mistake and players who transfer will have to sit out a year. If they did that eighty per cent of the transferrees will ask their coaches to take them back and order will be restored.
Because the NCAA will never say they made a mistake the rule will probably stand for next season making it a mess but order will return next year. If the rule becomes permanent college basketball is ruined.
 
This year’s portal is awful.  Hopefully goes back to the old ways after this.  A one-time transfer without sitting isn’t bad though. 
 
Enright post=427843 said:
Since the immediate eligibility rule is not final the NCAA could admit it is a terrible mistake and players who transfer will have to sit out a year. If they did that eighty per cent of the transferrees will ask their coaches to take them back and order will be restored.
Because the NCAA will never say they made a mistake the rule will probably stand for next season making it a mess but order will return next year. If the rule becomes permanent college basketball is ruined.
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I understand from the kids' perspective, but it's not great for the kids either if the whole sport implodes.  They need to find a reasonable middle ground.  My proposal would be to go back to the old system of having to apply for waiver, with the added rule that if your head coach is leaving you get the waiver automatically.
 
Let's keep this thread to SJU-related movement and talk about the portal in general in the "portal in general" thread, please.
 
This is starting to feel real NBA-ish which I don’t mind but damn can we at least get some good free agents? Starting to feel like we are like the Orlando magic or Sacramento Kings.
 
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After all the stress re defections, recruiting needs, etc a little good news would be nice :)
 
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Paultzman post=427898 said:
After all the stress re defections, recruiting needs, etc a little good news would be nice :)
 
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Wishful thinking, or should be waiting to see who your avi changes to?
 
Making Plays post=427746 said:
Knight post=427739 said:
Is there an end date to entering the transfer portal?
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Nope transfer portal is like the 7-Eleven, open 24/7.  You see Caraher entered the portal in the middle of the season.  The portal is going to be something coaches literally watch every day.
 
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It's essentially a mix of craigslist and linkedin where disenfranchised kids can offer their semiprofessional services to all the HR departments in the country any place any time.
 
lawmanfan post=427908 said:
Paultzman post=427898 said:
After all the stress re defections, recruiting needs, etc a little good news would be nice :)

 
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Wishful thinking, or should be waiting to see who your avi changes to?
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No cross examining me Counselor :)
 
SJU obviously still in the Aidan hunt, but it would be interesting to know who the competition is. Maybe “Mack doghouse” works to SJU advantage? If it does, next question is what does he bring to the table? Nice size for sure, but legit to wonder. 
 
Paultzman post=427919 said:
SJU obviously still in the Aidan hunt, but it would be interesting to know who the competition is. Maybe “Mack doghouse” works to SJU advantage? If it does, next question is what does he bring to the table? Nice size for sure, but legit to wonder. 
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Agreed, he'd be more attractive as a second big man addition on top of one more established.
 
Paultzman post=427919 said:
SJU obviously still in the Aidan hunt, but it would be interesting to know who the competition is. Maybe “Mack doghouse” works to SJU advantage? If it does, next question is what does he bring to the table? Nice size for sure, but legit to wonder. 
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All I want is a legit big man to keep opposing offenses honest, who doesn't get pushed around, who can defend inside and who can muscle up a layup or putback every now and again. 

We had 0 of that last year. 
 
Paultzman post=427912 said:
lawmanfan post=427908 said:
Paultzman post=427898 said:
After all the stress re defections, recruiting needs, etc a little good news would be nice :)


 
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Wishful thinking, or should be waiting to see who your avi changes to?
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No cross examining me Counselor :)

That's OK, Fordham 96 is on the case./media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png
 
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