SJU Transfer Targets/Possibilities

[Amaseinyourface]

So does this mean Alvarado out ?

If Chanp returns we still have two openings. So while guards and wings would be getting crowded, Alvarado wouldnt have to worry about the fight for minutes

 

[boo haarvey]

So does this mean Alvarado out ?

If Chanp returns we still have two openings. So while guards and wings would be getting crowded, Alvarado wouldnt have to worry about the fight for minutes

Lets assume champ returns, we sign this kid and one scholarship remains open.  Who on the team spells Posh at PG?  

 

[JohnnyFan]

So does this mean Alvarado out ?

If Chanp returns we still have two openings. So while guards and wings would be getting crowded, Alvarado wouldnt have to worry about the fight for minutes

Lets assume champ returns, we sign this kid and one scholarship remains open.  Who on the team spells Posh at PG?  

Under this scenario it would likely be Steph Smith.  My perception is Smith is better playing off ball, but could also handle light PG duty.  That said, CMA likely wants another primary ball handler on the roster. 

 

[SJU14]

No way to do the PA school and play ball.  

Maybe he's a lot smarter than you./media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png

lol.  Pa School requires 5 full days in-class with multiple tests per week and no vacations .  They’re very strict about it.  Can’t do any traveling at all during that time and it’s not flexible like regular college courses.  They won’t make exceptions for athletes. 



 

CMA had a pre-medical student as a walk-on named Kikko Haydar at Arkansas, he played basketball all 4-years, then returned  as a grad assistant while also in med school.  

http://www.uatrav.com/sports/article_0c799610-8d50-11e5-8cca-0fe9a6f2b8e9.html

Now, I'm not sure Coburn's complete situation, but I'm sure if it was something that wasn't possible he wouldn't be looking into it, because he originally said he was done with basketball.

Huge difference between pre-med undergraduate courses and graduate school PA program.

 

[RedStormNC]

Northwestern had a football player who was also first year medical school

www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-northwestern-tyler-gillikin-medical-school-20201107-wqd3m7doyzbxrdas3ebxkf6ovq-story.html%3foutputType=amp

 

[MakingPlays]

No way to do the PA school and play ball.  

Maybe he's a lot smarter than you./media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png

lol.  Pa School requires 5 full days in-class with multiple tests per week and no vacations .  They’re very strict about it.  Can’t do any traveling at all during that time and it’s not flexible like regular college courses.  They won’t make exceptions for athletes. 





 

CMA had a pre-medical student as a walk-on named Kikko Haydar at Arkansas, he played basketball all 4-years, then returned  as a grad assistant while also in med school.  

http://www.uatrav.com/sports/article_0c799610-8d50-11e5-8cca-0fe9a6f2b8e9.html

Now, I'm not sure Coburn's complete situation, but I'm sure if it was something that wasn't possible he wouldn't be looking into it, because he originally said he was done with basketball.

Huge difference between pre-med undergraduate courses and graduate school PA program.

He was a grad assistant on the team while in medical school.  And he was at all the practices and traveled with the team etc.
Also, there was a kid at Wisconsin several years ago people were talking about that was like an All-American track star while in medical school. Those are the only 2 examples I can think of off the top of my head.  So, I'm sure it's extremely rare, I'm just taking a guess that it possible if the kid has put himself in the transfer portal and coaches are scheduling to meet with him, seems like it would be pretty easy for coaches to find out if it was possible and if it wasn't not even waste time entertaining a meeting.  It was a discussion on twitter about it, if he hasn't done his prerequisites yet, then he wouldn't have to do any clinical rotations.

 

[RedStormNC]

Probably well past deadline for a program with small # of accepted students, but if they can make the basketball / academic thing work, they'll figure it out for best of both sides to succeed.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

So does this mean Alvarado out ?

If Chanp returns we still have two openings. So while guards and wings would be getting crowded, Alvarado wouldnt have to worry about the fight for minutes

Lets assume champ returns, we sign this kid and one scholarship remains open.  Who on the team spells Posh at PG?  

That’s been my biggest concern all off season.

 

[MCNPA]

Probably well past deadline for a program with small # of accepted students, but if they can make the basketball / academic thing work, they'll figure it out for best of both sides to succeed.

Like I said.  Zero feasibility to enter a PA program and play a D1 sport.  The time commitment to academics is too demanding.  It’s not comparable to most other undergrad programs.  

 

[SJU85]

Probably well past deadline for a program with small # of accepted students, but if they can make the basketball / academic thing work, they'll figure it out for best of both sides to succeed.

Like I said.  Zero feasibility to enter a PA program and play a D1 sport.  The time commitment to academics is too demanding.  It’s not comparable to most other undergrad programs.  
 

Report is that he has already been accepted into the Program.  I also don't see the two (the PA program and basketball) working out.

 

[otis]

So does this mean Alvarado out ?+\

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 Alvarado was coming to St.J's,  

 

[redmen4life]

Coburn 

“Hi everyone, I’ve made an academic decision to forgo  playing professionally right now to finish my schooling amid pandemic. I’m only interested in a school that has a Physician Associate/Assistant (PA) Masters degree program. In regards of saving everyone’s time and energy “

if this is truly what he wants, wants to stay local, and go to the best school, objectively his best choice is going to stony brook. 

(much better value than sju, if he has to pay his own way)

 

[bamafan]

Coburn 

“Hi everyone, I’ve made an academic decision to forgo  playing professionally right now to finish my schooling amid pandemic. I’m only interested in a school that has a Physician Associate/Assistant (PA) Masters degree program. In regards of saving everyone’s time and energy “

if this is truly what he wants, wants to stay local, and go to the best school, objectively his best choice is going to stony brook. 

(much better value than sju, if he has to pay his own way)

 

If you read his quote it sounds like he is interested in playing another year of college basketball. He said his decision is to forgo playing PROFESSIONALLY right now and that he is only interested in a school with a PA masters degree so any school without one he wants to save their time recruiting him (not all schools from recruiting him). Of course he may not have precisely articulated his exact plans in his statement. Another possibility is that maybe he comes to the conclusion that it is not possible or feasible to attempt to do both (especially if he talks to MCNPA).

 

[Knockout-Ned]

He could also have chosen to enroll at SJU because he may be able to participate as a practice player on a somewhat limited basis.

 

[Mean Gene]

Probably well past deadline for a program with small # of accepted students, but if they can make the basketball / academic thing work, they'll figure it out for best of both sides to succeed.

Like I said.  Zero feasibility to enter a PA program and play a D1 sport.  The time commitment to academics is too demanding.  It’s not comparable to most other undergrad programs.  

MCNPA, would he have to take a full slate of classes? Could he only take a few classes the first year and play and then take on the full slate of classes after that? Is that even a possibility?

 

[MCNPA]

Probably well past deadline for a program with small # of accepted students, but if they can make the basketball / academic thing work, they'll figure it out for best of both sides to succeed.

Like I said.  Zero feasibility to enter a PA program and play a D1 sport.  The time commitment to academics is too demanding.  It’s not comparable to most other undergrad programs.  

MCNPA, would he have to take a full slate of classes? Could he only take a few classes the first year and play and then take on the full slate of classes after that? Is that even a possibility?

Nope.  They don’t even let you work during Pa school.  It’s all day, every day, then study in the evenings.   Multiple tests a week and he wouldn’t have any time to practice.  School is morning to evening and they follow a specific timeline.  Can’t miss anything.  It’s not undergrad  school.  Can’t fail more than one test  throughout the year.  They don’t have any flexibility for athletes as it’s not really part of the undergrad campus.  I was an academic preceptor for SJU’s PA school in the past fwiw so I’m not just making things up. 

Only way I can see it, is if he’s still doing his PA school prerequisites and gets accepted PRE-PA school.  He might be able to pull that off. 

 

[MCNPA]

Coburn 

“Hi everyone, I’ve made an academic decision to forgo  playing professionally right now to finish my schooling amid pandemic. I’m only interested in a school that has a Physician Associate/Assistant (PA) Masters degree program. In regards of saving everyone’s time and energy “

if this is truly what he wants, wants to stay local, and go to the best school, objectively his best choice is going to stony brook. 

(much better value than sju, if he has to pay his own way)

Stony Brook requires 2000 hours work in some sort of medical field prior to applying.  A person needs to take a year off to work as an EMT, or whatever just to apply.  It’s not as great a deal as it used to be. 
 

 

[usguard]

I agree with you,but 
if there is a will there is a way however,really a stretch 

 

[GardenCity62]

us guard is right on with if there is a will there is a way. Really old posters may remember the Knicks of the early fifties and Ernie Vanderweigh arriving at games sometimes in the middle of the first quarter and sometimes even later. Ernie was attending Cornell medical school but wanted to play and Lapchick wanted him on the roster and they worked it out.
Ernie was an all American and Lapchick loved him and that influenced the arrangement so if the SJU staff feels this recruit can contribute and the fact he would be going to class on campus I assume it would probably come down to how badly the staff want him.

 

[paultzman]

Local player from  Loughlin & anticipate SJU interest;

Cincinnati’s Keith Williams has entered the transfer portal, the portal told @Stadium.