SHAMORI PONDS DRAFT PROJECTION & SIMON ???
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Still undecided on what the structure of the deal he will end up with at this point (two-way, just summer league, etc).
https://twitter.com/draftexpress/status/1142110769536016386?s=21
https://twitter.com/draftexpress/status/1142110769536016386?s=21
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[quote="Eric Williamson" post=352636]If he wasn't going to be drafted in the 1st round, then going undrafted was probably the best case scenario. At least then he had a little control over where he goes to (which is Houston).
It still boggles my mind when players like Ponds and Simon leave early...especially Simon, who virtually had no shot at being drafted. Did they actually think that the college lifestyle was really that bad, that they couldn't stick it out for one more year and at least earn their degree?[/quote]
N/M should have read other replies.
It still boggles my mind when players like Ponds and Simon leave early...especially Simon, who virtually had no shot at being drafted. Did they actually think that the college lifestyle was really that bad, that they couldn't stick it out for one more year and at least earn their degree?[/quote]
N/M should have read other replies.
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ronm
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Article naming Shamorie one of the five best undrafted players:
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-draft-...rs-who-went-unselected-055426997.html?src=rss
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-draft-...rs-who-went-unselected-055426997.html?src=rss
beast of the east
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Really not much of a surprise to me. Over this Big East season, especially the latter 2/3 of regular season, the BET, and NCAA tourney there was not much to suggest that either were consistently heads and tails above the competition, which is what I believe an NBA players should be at their respective sizes.
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Class of 72
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=352690]Really not much of a surprise to me. Over this Big East season, especially the latter 2/3 of regular season, the BET, and NCAA tourney there was not much to suggest that either were consistently heads and tails above the competition, which is what I believe an NBA players should be at their respective sizes.[/quote]
Justin, while a good athletic player lacked the shooting ability of an NBA player. He may hold the St. John's record for missed bunnies.
Shamorie should have developed better, both physically and mentally, by his third year. His 25 ft shots without ever considering passing first in his last two seasons may have cost him. His physical development was way behind schedule but I'm not sure I would blame the staff for that as he was nowhere near a gym rat or into weight training from what I heard. The " 5 out system" also did him no favors as our offense allowed almost any type of shot selection. When we lost the last 8 of 10 games I think most realized he played himself out of the draft and Chris Mullin coached himself out of a job.
Justin, while a good athletic player lacked the shooting ability of an NBA player. He may hold the St. John's record for missed bunnies.
Shamorie should have developed better, both physically and mentally, by his third year. His 25 ft shots without ever considering passing first in his last two seasons may have cost him. His physical development was way behind schedule but I'm not sure I would blame the staff for that as he was nowhere near a gym rat or into weight training from what I heard. The " 5 out system" also did him no favors as our offense allowed almost any type of shot selection. When we lost the last 8 of 10 games I think most realized he played himself out of the draft and Chris Mullin coached himself out of a job.
The NBA puts such a high priority on shooting skills today it made it impossible for Simon to be drafted and because of his size difficult for Ponds. Unless you have overall skills like Simmons on the Sixers you have to be an above average shooter.
beast of the east
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Glimmer of hope is that nova's Ryan arcidiacono played g league ball and played a full season with the bulls this year
[quote="Beast of the East" post=352699]Glimmer of hope is that nova's Ryan arcidiacono played g league ball and played a full season with the bulls this year[/quote]
The current nba is heavy on stars and roster fillers, plenty of bad teams not trying to win and good teams who are scrapped for cash. Good time for someone like Arch and Ponds to get an opportunity.
The current nba is heavy on stars and roster fillers, plenty of bad teams not trying to win and good teams who are scrapped for cash. Good time for someone like Arch and Ponds to get an opportunity.
Forget Ponds for a sec. how about Naz Reid not getting drafted? Jeez it’s tough out here
Hopefully some of the better college players, and their parents, take note. Especially since there isn't exactly an avalanche of kids making the jump from G-League (or Europe) into the NBA.
If a kid just hates school and is not going to develop into an NBA player, then I understand going overseas. But for few hundred others, the delusion about getting drafted is sad.
If Naz Reid stayed through his junior year, he may have developed into one of the best big men in the country. In two years, he legitimately could have moved himself into the first half of the first round. And that's a nice pay day,
If a kid just hates school and is not going to develop into an NBA player, then I understand going overseas. But for few hundred others, the delusion about getting drafted is sad.
If Naz Reid stayed through his junior year, he may have developed into one of the best big men in the country. In two years, he legitimately could have moved himself into the first half of the first round. And that's a nice pay day,
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Windy City Johnny Fan
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=352708]Hopefully some of the better college players, and their parents, take note. Especially since there isn't exactly an avalanche of kids making the jump from G-League (or Europe) into the NBA.
If a kid just hates school and is not going to develop into an NBA player, then I understand going overseas. But for other, the delusion about getting drafted is sad.
If Naz Reid stayed through his junior year, He may have developed into one of the best big men in the country. In two years, he legitimately could have moved himself into the first half of the first round. And that's a nice pay day,[/quote]
This happens every year now. If they haven't taken note yet, they never will.
If a kid just hates school and is not going to develop into an NBA player, then I understand going overseas. But for other, the delusion about getting drafted is sad.
If Naz Reid stayed through his junior year, He may have developed into one of the best big men in the country. In two years, he legitimately could have moved himself into the first half of the first round. And that's a nice pay day,[/quote]
This happens every year now. If they haven't taken note yet, they never will.
beast of the east
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=352708]Hopefully some of the better college players, and their parents, take note. Especially since there isn't exactly an avalanche of kids making the jump from G-League (or Europe) into the NBA.
If a kid just hates school and is not going to develop into an NBA player, then I understand going overseas. But for few hundred others, the delusion about getting drafted is sad.
If Naz Reid stayed through his junior year, he may have developed into one of the best big men in the country. In two years, he legitimately could have moved himself into the first half of the first round. And that's a nice pay day,[/quote]
While the NBA has an age minimum of 19, this has only served to create the fantasy in as many as 100 incoming freshman or more that they will be one and done, two at the worst. Just because they were the ones in their hs or aau team to secure a D1 scholarship, their handlers and Twitter followers convince them that they are headed to the nba.
Way too many of them were adulated from the 7th or 8th grade, so they never too school seriously anyway.
Yes, some will make it, a tiny number. Some will go on to successful professional , career, also a small number. Others hang around their old college programs as adults, never paying for tickets or receptions. Perpetuating their fantasy that they are still stars.
The really smart ones, say a Charles Minlend, realize that the highest likelihood of deriving success from college basketball's is to study your ass off and graduate debt free.
Everyone doesn't have to follow that path, but roll forward any former players career 15 years after college days end, and many end up with not much of a career path. Their choice for sure, and nothing will slow this trend down in the foreseeable future.
If a kid just hates school and is not going to develop into an NBA player, then I understand going overseas. But for few hundred others, the delusion about getting drafted is sad.
If Naz Reid stayed through his junior year, he may have developed into one of the best big men in the country. In two years, he legitimately could have moved himself into the first half of the first round. And that's a nice pay day,[/quote]
While the NBA has an age minimum of 19, this has only served to create the fantasy in as many as 100 incoming freshman or more that they will be one and done, two at the worst. Just because they were the ones in their hs or aau team to secure a D1 scholarship, their handlers and Twitter followers convince them that they are headed to the nba.
Way too many of them were adulated from the 7th or 8th grade, so they never too school seriously anyway.
Yes, some will make it, a tiny number. Some will go on to successful professional , career, also a small number. Others hang around their old college programs as adults, never paying for tickets or receptions. Perpetuating their fantasy that they are still stars.
The really smart ones, say a Charles Minlend, realize that the highest likelihood of deriving success from college basketball's is to study your ass off and graduate debt free.
Everyone doesn't have to follow that path, but roll forward any former players career 15 years after college days end, and many end up with not much of a career path. Their choice for sure, and nothing will slow this trend down in the foreseeable future.
Here's the games & Times (Eastern Time) for Ponds & Simon
https://stats.nba.com/schedule/summerleague/
Ponds (Rockets)
Sat 7/6 @ 9PM - NBA TV
Sun 7/7 @ 10PM - NBA TV
Tues 7/9 @ 10PM - ESPN2
Thurs 7/11 @ 8:30PM - ESPNU
Simon (Bulls)
Fri 7/5 @ 7:30PM - ESPN
Sun 7/7 @ 7:30PM - ESPN
Mon 7/8 @ 9:30PM - NBA TV
Wed 7/10 @ 5PM - NBA TV
https://stats.nba.com/schedule/summerleague/
Ponds (Rockets)
Sat 7/6 @ 9PM - NBA TV
Sun 7/7 @ 10PM - NBA TV
Tues 7/9 @ 10PM - ESPN2
Thurs 7/11 @ 8:30PM - ESPNU
Simon (Bulls)
Fri 7/5 @ 7:30PM - ESPN
Sun 7/7 @ 7:30PM - ESPN
Mon 7/8 @ 9:30PM - NBA TV
Wed 7/10 @ 5PM - NBA TV
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Johnny4Life
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As the Summer League starts, I’m thinking Houston might of been the best landing spot for Shamorie. If he makes the team, he gets to learn from both Harden and Paul. Not a bad combo to pick a few things up from.
hope he doesn't lean on Harden for tips on defense.