Rysheed Jordan

[Section3]

Since I can't post the whole thing where they list strenghts, weaknesses, and projections at next level I will post the Decision factors for each.

Dave Telep-
Decision factors: This one is all over the map, literally. Typically, the home team gets stronger in these situations and that's Temple, but the Owls haven't been able to flex. St. John's is burrowed in there pretty good, but UCLA may be able to offer that starting spot at a high-profile place.

Prediction: UCLA


Paul Biancardi-
Decision factors: Distance from home will play a factor in his decision. Will he stay in his back yard and play at Temple, remain in the Northeast and attend St. John's or pack his bags and go West to UCLA?

Prediction: St. John's

Reggie Rankin-
Decision factors: Jordan has three distinct choices. Does he want to stay close to his immediate family and friends and attend Temple? Does he want some distance but still be close enough to get home easily if he picks St. John's? Or does he want to make the trip across the country for a fresh start at UCLA like another Philly guard back in the 1980s named Jerome "Pooh" Richardson?

Prediction: St. John's

Adam Finkelstein-
Decision factors: The longer this goes, the more likely he may be to stay close to home. Ultimately he'll weigh Temple against St. John's and UCLA.

Prediction: Temple

John Stovall-
Decision factors: Jordan will weigh close to home versus BCS-level national program.

Prediction: Temple

Mike LaPlante-

Decision factors: Will he opt to be UCLA's point guard of the future, will being a hometown star at Temple be what excites him or will the bright lights in the Big Apple be his calling at St. John's?

Prediction: Temple

I think Finklestein's analysis is spot on."...Ultimately he'll weigh Temple against St. John's and UCLA."

 

[usguard]

Since I can't post the whole thing where they list strenghts, weaknesses, and projections at next level I will post the Decision factors for each.

Dave Telep-
Decision factors: This one is all over the map, literally. Typically, the home team gets stronger in these situations and that's Temple, but the Owls haven't been able to flex. St. John's is burrowed in there pretty good, but UCLA may be able to offer that starting spot at a high-profile place.

Prediction: UCLA


Paul Biancardi-
Decision factors: Distance from home will play a factor in his decision. Will he stay in his back yard and play at Temple, remain in the Northeast and attend St. John's or pack his bags and go West to UCLA?

Prediction: St. John's

Reggie Rankin-
Decision factors: Jordan has three distinct choices. Does he want to stay close to his immediate family and friends and attend Temple? Does he want some distance but still be close enough to get home easily if he picks St. John's? Or does he want to make the trip across the country for a fresh start at UCLA like another Philly guard back in the 1980s named Jerome "Pooh" Richardson?

Prediction: St. John's

Adam Finkelstein-
Decision factors: The longer this goes, the more likely he may be to stay close to home. Ultimately he'll weigh Temple against St. John's and UCLA.

Prediction: Temple

John Stovall-
Decision factors: Jordan will weigh close to home versus BCS-level national program.

Prediction: Temple

Mike LaPlante-

Decision factors: Will he opt to be UCLA's point guard of the future, will being a hometown star at Temple be what excites him or will the bright lights in the Big Apple be his calling at St. John's?

Prediction: Temple

I think Finklestein's analysis is spot on."...Ultimately he'll weigh Temple against St. John's and UCLA."

Also think the Branch's friendship plays big and he come here

 

[SJUalum98]

What friendship with Branch?

Either way, I don't think a scholarship gets used this year. Just the way things seem to be playing out.

 

[doodyny33]

What friendship with Branch?

Either way, I don't think a scholarship gets used this year. Just the way things seem to be playing out.

That's fine if nobody leaves. However, if Harrison or Sampson leave at the end of the season, it is a big problem.

 

[billthetruth]

Honestly. Can we put the Harrison leaving early story to rest. Let me say I love what he brings to SJU, but he needs way more games at the college level. He is not an explosive enough athlete to consider leaving early IMHO.

Michael Carter Williams is on a dirrent level as an athlete. That is a guy that should leave early.

Same for Sampson. If Otto Porter Jr. played 2 years of college ball, so should Jakarr. But if he is assured a first-round selection can't blame the kid for going.

 

[Porgyman]

Honestly. Can we put the Harrison leaving early story to rest. Let me say I love what he brings to SJU, but he needs way more games at the college level. He is not an explosive enough athlete to consider leaving early IMHO.

Michael Carter Williams is on a dirrent level as an athlete. That is a guy that should leave early.

Same for Sampson. If Otto Porter Jr. played 2 years of college ball, so should Jakarr. But if he is assured a first-round selection can't blame the kid for going.

Bill, you speak the truth! Harrison is a man without a position at the next level. Not big enough or explosive enough to play the 2. Not quick enough and lacking ball handling skills to play the 1.
The only way that he leaves early is if his financial/family situation makes it imperative to earn money. Then..possibly a lower level European league. (See England or Greece).
As for Sampson, our strongest ally in keeping him here, of all people might be LeBron James. If LeBron tells the kid that his game is not ready for the pros...and another year of seasoning might help....who knows, maybe he will listen.
Strange that this advice might be coming from a guy that skipped college altogether...but then again, LeBron was a manchild coming out of high school.

 

[bobo]

Just a thought..... With Amir's minutes declining, only 11 minutes vs Cuse, 9 vs Yukon, he's moved further down the bench and is no longer the first or even second substitution to enter the game. I can see him leaving after this season and devoting full time to baseball, opening up a roster spot next year.

 

[tom in salem]

No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...16_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html

 

[T6K0E6]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

 

[SJUalum98]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

 

[MCNPA]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

 

[SJUalum98]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

He has 2 inches on Greene and one on D'Angelo. And he is absolutely nothing like MCW. MCW cannot shoot and Jordan is nowhere near the passer that MCW is.

Again, what about Jordan's skillsets scream PG? He is a combo guard and a better version of Phil Greene to me.

You say he can penetrate. Look at Greene's high school footage. He penetrated. He played with Anthony Davis. Doesn't mean it translated over to D1.

I think RJ is a phenom. But I'm not so sure anymore if we should continue to recruit these combo guards whose main threat is to score the ball.

 

[MJDinkins]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

He has 2 inches on Greene and one on D'Angelo. And he is absolutely nothing like MCW. MCW cannot shoot and Jordan is nowhere near the passer that MCW is.

Again, what about Jordan's skillsets scream PG? He is a combo guard and a better version of Phil Greene to me.

You say he can penetrate. Look at Greene's high school footage. He penetrated. He played with Anthony Davis. Doesn't mean it translated over to D1.

I think RJ is a phenom. But I'm not so sure anymore if we should continue to recruit these combo guards whose main threat is to score the ball.

Have you seen Jordan play in person?

 

[SJUalum98]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

He has 2 inches on Greene and one on D'Angelo. And he is absolutely nothing like MCW. MCW cannot shoot and Jordan is nowhere near the passer that MCW is.

Again, what about Jordan's skillsets scream PG? He is a combo guard and a better version of Phil Greene to me.

You say he can penetrate. Look at Greene's high school footage. He penetrated. He played with Anthony Davis. Doesn't mean it translated over to D1.

I think RJ is a phenom. But I'm not so sure anymore if we should continue to recruit these combo guards whose main threat is to score the ball.

Have you seen Jordan play in person?

No I haven't.
Is there something in person that is unseen on YouTube videos?

 

[MJDinkins]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

He has 2 inches on Greene and one on D'Angelo. And he is absolutely nothing like MCW. MCW cannot shoot and Jordan is nowhere near the passer that MCW is.

Again, what about Jordan's skillsets scream PG? He is a combo guard and a better version of Phil Greene to me.

You say he can penetrate. Look at Greene's high school footage. He penetrated. He played with Anthony Davis. Doesn't mean it translated over to D1.

I think RJ is a phenom. But I'm not so sure anymore if we should continue to recruit these combo guards whose main threat is to score the ball.

Have you seen Jordan play in person?

No I haven't.
Is there something in person that is unseen on YouTube videos?

Yep! If it's only based on featured highlights (although, there could be a game of two of Vaux online, but I haven't checked). I already knew you hadn't seen him in person. MCN is right in that Jordan is nothing like Harrison or Greene. By the way, Greene only played with Anthony Davis on the AAU circuit.

Jordan's vision and passing is certainly better than both players from what I've witnessed. He also displays very, good body control. He also uses his strength to bounce off bodies and finish at the basket. He's a legit a 6'4", and could possibly pick up another inch before he enters college. His jumper also has gotten better, based on the reports of him from his junior year, as he shot the ball well at the Chick-Fil-A Tournament.

If I was gonna make a judgement on who Jordan was similar to when it comes to Harrison, Greene, and Carter-Williams, then I would say he is similar to the latter than the former two.

 

[SJUalum98]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

He has 2 inches on Greene and one on D'Angelo. And he is absolutely nothing like MCW. MCW cannot shoot and Jordan is nowhere near the passer that MCW is.

Again, what about Jordan's skillsets scream PG? He is a combo guard and a better version of Phil Greene to me.

You say he can penetrate. Look at Greene's high school footage. He penetrated. He played with Anthony Davis. Doesn't mean it translated over to D1.

I think RJ is a phenom. But I'm not so sure anymore if we should continue to recruit these combo guards whose main threat is to score the ball.

Have you seen Jordan play in person?

No I haven't.
Is there something in person that is unseen on YouTube videos?

Yep! If it's only based on featured highlights (although, there could be a game of two of Vaux online, but I haven't checked). I already knew you hadn't seen him in person. MCN is right in that Jordan is nothing like Harrison or Greene. By the way, Greene only played with Anthony Davis on the AAU circuit.

Jordan's vision and passing is certainly better than both players from what I've witnessed. He also displays very, good body control. He also uses his strength to bounce off bodies and finish at the basket. He's a legit a 6'4", and could possibly pick up another inch before he enters college. His jumper also has gotten better, based on the reports of him from his junior year, as he shot the ball well at the Chick-Fil-A Tournament.

If I was gonna make a judgement on who Jordan was similar to when it comes to Harrison, Greene, and Carter-Williams, then I would say he is similar to the latter than the former two.

Yes, there are Vaux videos (full game) online.

And interesting, since MCW was a SG coming out of high school. If people think RJ favors him, then it solidifies my argument since both were scorers in HS which is what I don't think this team needs. But to each his own I guess.

 

[MJDinkins]

We are in need for a PG as can be seen by our last two games... with a week off, I dont see why Hines could not have taken a two hour drive down to the championship game, who knows maybe there was also an obscure uncommitted 7fotter there to help our needs.

looks like while the cats away the mice will play.

missed opportunity!

What about that article screamed "PG" to you?
He is a combo guard in the vein of Greene and D'Angelo.

He's nothing like Greene nor D'angelo. He's twice as athletic than both and taller than both. Carter-Williams was also a combo guard in Jordan's mold and he ended up being pretty successful. Combo or not, he doesn't have issues moving the ball to other players nor penetrating on the dribble drive. I still like Branch a lot. We need him healthy this season and beyond.

He has 2 inches on Greene and one on D'Angelo. And he is absolutely nothing like MCW. MCW cannot shoot and Jordan is nowhere near the passer that MCW is.

Again, what about Jordan's skillsets scream PG? He is a combo guard and a better version of Phil Greene to me.

You say he can penetrate. Look at Greene's high school footage. He penetrated. He played with Anthony Davis. Doesn't mean it translated over to D1.

I think RJ is a phenom. But I'm not so sure anymore if we should continue to recruit these combo guards whose main threat is to score the ball.

Have you seen Jordan play in person?

No I haven't.
Is there something in person that is unseen on YouTube videos?

Yep! If it's only based on featured highlights (although, there could be a game of two of Vaux online, but I haven't checked). I already knew you hadn't seen him in person. MCN is right in that Jordan is nothing like Harrison or Greene. By the way, Greene only played with Anthony Davis on the AAU circuit.

Jordan's vision and passing is certainly better than both players from what I've witnessed. He also displays very, good body control. He also uses his strength to bounce off bodies and finish at the basket. He's a legit a 6'4", and could possibly pick up another inch before he enters college. His jumper also has gotten better, based on the reports of him from his junior year, as he shot the ball well at the Chick-Fil-A Tournament.

If I was gonna make a judgement on who Jordan was similar to when it comes to Harrison, Greene, and Carter-Williams, then I would say he is similar to the latter than the former two.

Yes, there are Vaux videos (full game) online.

And interesting, since MCW was a SG coming out of high school. If people think RJ favors him, then it solidifies my argument since both were scorers in HS which is what I don't think this team needs. But to each his own I guess.

I was practically saying, he would be closer to Carter-Williams than he would be to Harrison or Greene, if I had to choose between the three.

I'll agree that Jordan may be more of a luxury rather than a need. But he'll be a solid luxury, nonetheless. Jordan would be able to play on (when or if Branch is getting a break; in foul trouble; or happens to get injured) and off the ball (when Branch is in the game).

I'd love to find a guy in the mold of Lamont Middleton; Mitchell Foster; Billy Singleton; or Tyrone Grant.

 

[Jnaw17]

MJ, what's the story with Jordan Washington? He was on our radar at one point and reports would suggest he would fit our need for bulk and a rebounder. Plus, he's a local kid.

 

[MCNPA]

In our type of offense, we need a kid that can get to the hoop ala Peyton Siva. Siva isn't the purest Pg I've seen, but Jordan fits that style. He's a good passer, even If he's not a slow it down floor general. Maybe Tyshaw Taylor is a better comparison as in style of player? If you watched us vs Syracuse, we would have been well served by a big, fast Pg that can use his ability to get to the hoop and draw the defense. That is what creates assists, not magician-like passing. Jordan would be an amazing commit if we are able to land him somehow. Phil Greene is nowhere near an apt comparison beause Phil doesn't take it to the hoop all that well. Jordan has more height, athleticism and skills overall to dominate defenders.

Combo guard? Not everybody thinks so...

http://www.usatodayhss.com/secretweapon/article/rysheed-jordan-secret-weapon-training-video

 

[MJDinkins]

MJ, what's the story with Jordan Washington? He was on our radar at one point and reports would suggest he would fit our need for bulk and a rebounder. Plus, he's a local kid.

Some people do not believe he's gonna be eligible to play as a frosh.