Rysheed Jordan
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Someone once had a good saying on here. He said "Lavin can only pull a rabbit out of the hat so many times". Hope he can keep this up, but how many top 100 players are really going to want to come here if we don't finally play to our top 25 potential, and watch as the Big East crumbles?
St. John's situation is not the same as the Mets. The Mets are inept right now, so let's drop that comparison. The only connection between the two is that many disgruntled Mets fans are also fans on here (as evidenced by my relatives who are Mets fans), so the same pessimistic attitude comes through often. I don't blame Mets fans for being so down, but the negative views being projected onto St. John's gets old sometimes.
What makes me think Lavin will keep having success recrutiing is based on his track record. Lavin has been a coach for 12 seasons now, and has had several top 10 recruiting classes. He doesn't do that sometimes or only under ideal situations like at UCLA. He does it here with no recent history of success and with his back against the wall needing to replace an entire team. He does it as he's battling cancer with other coaches allegedly throwing him under the proverbial bus regarding his health situation and with a short handed team on the court winning 13 games. He's been amazing with his recruiting, but he keeps getting it done. So, I say accept it, enjoy it and expect it to continue. The evidence is right there in front of us.
I think it's a stupid saying in this case. He's a professional who knows what he's doing and has proven it countless times. If you're comparing him to a good magician, then yes he will keep pulling the rabbit out of the hat, because that's what he does. If you're comparing him to a clown who tries the occasional magic trick and got lucky once, then the analogy doesn't work.
Well put...let's hope it continues. If we get Lawrence, imagine D'Lo, Sampson, Branch, Greene, Obekpa, Marco, Garrett, Pointer, etc? All we would really need then is a big time rebounder and we have a true PG, a top shot blocker, a solid 3 pt threat, a legit #1 scorer, a legit #2 scorer/rebounder, and potentially an offensive gem in Lawrence. In terms of the negative Mets projections onto SJ, I'm not so sure about that. I think SJ exclusively has been bad for a long time and you can't blame the Mets negativity for boiling over into SJ territory. SJ has had what 2 or 3 good seasons in the past decade? That's about on par with the Mets. There seems to be some curse of NY sports other than the Yankees it's weird. The Knicks have done nothing (may finally be waking up now), the Jets had their chances and are now awful, the Mets were 1 game from the WS and awful ever since, Rangers came close to the cup but couldn't do it, Isles leave Nassau, etc. The only NY teams to have sustained success are the Yanks and Giants. SJ has had their own bad decade to give reason for pessimism. You would think with Lavin and great recruiting for the first time in a long time that this might be the turning point. We shall see within the next few years.
You guys are unreal. Nothing has happened. SJU was Corey Fisher's "dream school" and we know how that turned out. Fisher even attended practices on SJU's campus after he committed to Villanova.
Time to untangle your panties and please keep a safe distance from open windows and sharp objects.
Time to untangle your panties and please keep a safe distance from open windows and sharp objects.
Seriously, some on this board are comparing him taking a local bus 6 stops to see a Temple game as the same as the 2 hour drive to Carnesecca and turning that into the end of the world. My question is, who will Rysheed be playing hoops against if he commits to Temple? They're a team without a conference now. At least at STJ you'll know you're in a conference with at least 3 teams with national championship banners hanging in the rafters.
tom in salem
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The only positive about last night's game was Jordan sitting behind our bench.
I'm sure our PG play didn't scare him away.
I'm sure our PG play didn't scare him away.
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A conspiracy theory not that far fetched! LOL!
Sit our most senior, and scholastically intelligent player, Gift. Move at a snails pace in providing the NCAA with proof that our 24 year old recruit is not 25.
Now, throw in Jakarr and call him a freshman when he actually graduated with our sophs and I still find it hard-pressed to think our sophs are the youngest team in the nation unless it is a Lavin excuse.
We all waited to see what Lavin could do with his own recruits and now we have a glimpse. Shades of Brian Mahoney with a little Hollywood glam.........although holding up "Lavinwood" signs seems to have worn on the student fans as well.
Ah, Bob Dylan, may we stay forever young!
I am guessing Moose is using sarcasm.
If we use that line of reasoning which you agree with, than what is the alternative? Should the staff not recruit anyone? In that way, the team is simply a year older and can satisfy your quest to aleviate Lavin's built-in inexperience excuse.
Maybe we should go with the Jarvis approach to recruiting, and recruit JUCO's only. Then we can have a team of 23 year olds.
Never 24 year olds of course, since our compliance department would mess that up and cause a NCAA delay in eligibility.
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paesan' I was using sarcasm also but with a sharper edge.
We are playing the most pitiful basketball defense that I have ever witnessed on a redmen team....ever!
We have a bunch of young bucks in the corral and no one seems to be able to lasso them into a talented team of horses.
I no longer go to the corral to watch our bucks in training as I once did but I suspect we have a lot of one-on-one tutelage going on and not enough "team" focused evaluations.
If the staff was impressed enough with Christian Jones (remember him) in October drills to bench Gift, we are fu*ked, plain and simple.
That we got manhandled by a shitty Nova team on the inside and watched Pointer and company play invisible defense against pimply face, shows me this staff is getting fat on our hard-earned money.
Here is a rude awakening for us-----this same Nova team lost to another team from New York City just 4 weeks ago by SEVENTEEN points.........Columbia!!
Yes, the Columbia without 7 nationally ranked prep players.
Yes, the Columbia without scholarship players.
Now, Goomba, hold on to your hat! Their names were Rosenberg, Cohen, Frankowski, EnWzoh......AND.....the 6'11, 260 pimply faced center that Lavin never bothered to watch play on his many many trips to California..........Ozetkowski!
Now someone here try to convince me a bunch of non-scholarship white boys are better talented than our kids and I will buy this entire Board drinks on the upper east side! I will even invite the Maven for a class reunion and buy him his own case of wine and box of Cubans! LOL!!
BTW, this shitty Nova team also lost to Temple by 15 and beat a school I never heard of "Carleton" by 6 at home,