Couple of things:
1) If Chris Mullin or Mike Anderson were coach then those would be worries, the current coach naaahhh
2) the current coach can win with just about anyone, literally.
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1) If Chris Mullin or Mike Anderson were coach then those would be worries, the current coach naaahhh
2) the current coach can win with just about anyone, literally.
In fairness Monte, their wasn’t a whole lot of “winning“ when those kids were here or after they left.
“At all”
Good for you
And the coaching staff
And inho
Most of we posters
Concern, frustration, unsure - fine
Good times here and ahead
There’s no one I’d rather see on our sidelines than Rick Pitino GOAT/HOF
30 years of a crappy basketball program
IS ENOUGH
What I’m most concerned about is that I find myself agreeing with Fordham96 a ton lately…
Mullins Revenge
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Yes and there is still quality kids entering the portal like the kid from FSU. It sucks to have to wait because we are so excited about Pitino but it will be worth it in the end.
So this is how things go sideways! Do you really think a man who has become President of two universities went to one practice and made decisions off of that? I am sure observing the practice along with watching the team play, along with the rumors very out in the open about the program dysfunction, etc. caused him to delve deeper into the situation, you know, all that raised concerns that he felt worthy of finding out more before acting?
As for players, I am not presuming anything; I do know that certain players were offered spots on the roster with conditions and chose to hit the portal; obviously, you will think for yourself and make up your own mind. I have what I believe to be credible information gotten through, to steal from Ocean’s 11, the “I know a guy” methodology and shared it but that doesn’t make it so in anyone else‘s eyes.
But you are reading me wrong because I am not singling out any players and in no way am I intimating that any player did anything WRONG necessarily. Conditions could mean a myriad of things from starting, playing time, role on the team, NIL money, etc. IMO, some players chose to do what was best for them, enter the portal, and there is nothing remotely wrong with that. I was merely offering that for those who think ALL players were just let go.
I don’t disagree at all, I believe they wanted some players to return but I think the coaches were trying to discern if those players would “buy in” and the connection between coaches and player(s) just didn’t happen, at least not yet. At least to the point of the player(s) investigating options which is perfectly understandable. And all plurals aside, I am talking almost exclusively about Alexander.
Thank you MR
Waiting = part of life which we know but are not always accepting of etc.
Right. If the idea that anything that can't be proven about what made up a dysfunctional roster is nothing more than speculation, than the idea that the current coach ran off the roster is ALSO nothing more than speculation.
The only facts are that the players put themselves in the portal.
If anyone is upset the roster has massive turnover anger at Pitino is misdirected. If the players had put as much collective effort into the games last year as the effort posters are giving to lament their departures the team would have won more games last year, made the NCAA tournament, and Anderson would still be coach. Right?
Unless they aren't very good.
Either case isn't a Pitino issue.
Oh not a talented one.
Because SJU with all of those winning seasons have had loads of talent.
You don't know what a talented roster is because you have rarely seen one here.
So not sure why you would be the arbiter of talented.
Pitino lands player X instead of player Y and you are going to tell me Y is more talented then X...
Everything becomes a binary on here. Nuance is almost impossible.
Again SJU hired the best coach of his generation who forgot more about how to evaluate players then anyone on here would know and we have people claiming to be "worried" that the roster won't be "talented..."
You are not worried, you are mad that you have to contrive reasons to be worried rather than the last few years actually being genuinely worried.
I have seen nothing posted to date from the Pitino hiring that has any idea as to why Pitino mentioned only Soriano and Traore as returnees .
Many here, without any factual knowledge , have peddled the idea that Rick just dumped the remaining CMA players overboard . We don’t know that .
Given the mutiny that was apparent during CMA’s last season ,, it’s quite possible , that several players had already made their intentions to enter the portal known , even prior to Rick’s hiring . Anyone thinking that CMA was going to have his 8 th place Roster back is seriously mistaken .
Also neglected is that Macon was here for the entire season and saw what was going on with the team . Count on it that Van briefed Rick , in addition to Fr Shanley and Cragg .
Many posters keep directing criticism to Pitino as if , he ruthlessly ran off ALL these players . Ignoring the possibility these Players were going to leave the School anyway .
Pitino has his type of player in mind and has demonstrated he knows how to construct a Roster, Coach a team and build a Winner . Many of the best teams in this years NCCA were near totally rebuilt from Portal .
BE POY , Tyler Kolek transferred from Geo. Mason and didn’t play much his first year at Marquette. That’s the reality of College BB today .
The continual criticism of Pitino for not wanting to Coach kids from a 8 th place team that , with few exception , will likely Wind up at mid Major schools , is ridiculous . Throw in the locker room stuff that nobody has any certainty about and none of us know about and the Critics just can’t restrain themselves .
Many here, without any factual knowledge , have peddled the idea that Rick just dumped the remaining CMA players overboard . We don’t know that .
Given the mutiny that was apparent during CMA’s last season ,, it’s quite possible , that several players had already made their intentions to enter the portal known , even prior to Rick’s hiring . Anyone thinking that CMA was going to have his 8 th place Roster back is seriously mistaken .
Also neglected is that Macon was here for the entire season and saw what was going on with the team . Count on it that Van briefed Rick , in addition to Fr Shanley and Cragg .
Many posters keep directing criticism to Pitino as if , he ruthlessly ran off ALL these players . Ignoring the possibility these Players were going to leave the School anyway .
Pitino has his type of player in mind and has demonstrated he knows how to construct a Roster, Coach a team and build a Winner . Many of the best teams in this years NCCA were near totally rebuilt from Portal .
BE POY , Tyler Kolek transferred from Geo. Mason and didn’t play much his first year at Marquette. That’s the reality of College BB today .
The continual criticism of Pitino for not wanting to Coach kids from a 8 th place team that , with few exception , will likely Wind up at mid Major schools , is ridiculous . Throw in the locker room stuff that nobody has any certainty about and none of us know about and the Critics just can’t restrain themselves .
The one thing that gives me solice(aside from Rick being at the helm) is that none of the kids that we lost are very highly ranked in the portal rankings. In spite of the fact that some of you want to erect a statue of some of them. About the only player we couldn't afford to lose, Soriano, we were able to keep. Everyone else is replaceable by comparable or better talent IMO. Still wish we had kept a few more kids, but confident that when all is said and done, we'll be fielding a team that will be better then last years team by a fair amount.
Larry Wright
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Lost to Rider and Quinnipiac with kids we are missing on.
Great coaches still need players.
RedStormRising
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Questioning the gospel of Pitino with thing like ‘logic’ will likely get your banned from the board.
basketballjones
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This is the only factual post on the whole sordid subject of blaming Pitino minutes into his tenure for failing to recruit. Just unbelievable. That guy’s record puts him in a class by himself in the Big East. I have no clue as to why Clayton didn’t choose St. John’s, but I don’t think anyone will care very soon.
Can’t base it on two games. We beat the National Champion in February. Didn’t matter much. Just like him losing to Rider and Quinnipiac didn’t matter much to Iona.
It seems to me that you and a couple of other posters would like nothing more than Pitino to fail so you can all say “See! We told you so!”
Some people can’t fathom what success would be like for our program.
Geez , you want Players who are transferring to Rider and Quinnipiac to be part of the Pitino team in the BE? Clayton jr and Jenkins were capable of playing on bigger stages and it’s already apparent with Clayton to Florida . Hopefully , we get Jenkins … Rick is also recruiting his L’ville transferee , Slasinski ( sorry kid for spelling ) . Who could be a soon to be Redman .
I’m confident that Rick is going to pick off at least 1 or more impact players for next year . Just wait for the Announcement … Patience …
Note to Kranmars, while paragraphing is against my instincts , I am making considerable , slight or non existent improvement ? No need to comment . Well , if you feel compelled .
You think Rick cares about paragraphing ?