Rick’s Targets

If this were November? I'll say if this were June 1. The optics to date are not impressive but it is still early. Do I think things were really so bad that he needed to jettison the entire team without any idea of replacements? No Do I think he'll get replacements? Yes Do I think he'll get the same quality of a roster he had at KY and LVille? No Do I think by 24/25 he'll have a roster greater than or equal to anything Anderson put on the floor, and do more with that roster? Yes Do I sometimes suffer from SJPTSD as I read this board? Yes. Can I convince myself to laugh it off? Kinda
Again nothing has yet occurred that would signal a multiyear rebuild.
Concern, yes; panic, no.
The rising abject pessimism is our collective SJU PTSD affliction breaking out.
I'm betting the Board's mindset will have done a 180 before the next dead period. May 18 - 26.
And, few here wanted the roster to be 'jettisoned' but we are not privy to the down and dirty of what went down, so rank speculation and blame is rife and unjustified in my view.
Just got to take deep breaths.
All shrinks say so. I'm married to one. Lol
 
Grabbing Dual this coming weekend would make me feel a lot better lol. Multi-talented player who can basically be penciled into any starting spot between the 1–3 spots on paper. We all have to be patient though, honestly. Tons and tons of players to fill 9-10 ships. We don’t have to fill a football roster.
 
But Pitino promised a “quick rebuild.” The dude is 70 and this is a different era. Time is not on our side. Yet another poster moving the goal posts.

It’s ok to say the sky is not falling while also conceding that, by all accounts, Pitino is not off to a good start.
I don’t remember him promising a quick rebuild. I remember him saying we’d be winning right away.
 
But Pitino promised a “quick rebuild.” The dude is 70 and this is a different era. Time is not on our side. Yet another poster moving the goal posts.

It’s ok to say the sky is not falling while also conceding that, by all accounts, Pitino is not off to a good start.
We haven't played a game yet. Still 0-0.
 
I think most of the site were totally unaware that Health issues for Clayton jr ‘s family existed . Sure it puts a different look on prospects for next year .Jenkins is still possible and that’s a good thing


But , the Recruiting season from the portal is not yet over. Lots of talent still out there . One door closes, another opens .
 
I think most of the site were totally unaware that Health issues for Clayton jr ‘s family existed . Sure it puts a different look on prospects for next year .Jenkins is still possible and that’s a good thing


But , the Recruiting season from the portal is not yet over. Lots of talent still out there . One door closes, another opens .
I think even the most cynical people wouldn’t fault a kid for picking somewhere else. It’s their life after all. I think the bigger concern from a St John’s stand point is RP almost assuredly knew about Clayton Jr family situation and didn’t put the full court press on retaining Posh (sorry mullin’s revenge)
 
Really can't overstate how big of a blow losing Clayton is. He's one of true impact transfers in the portal, a kid that's in the top 25 on every site that does portal rankings, and those rankings have a very high degree of variance.

While I have no doubt Pitino will field a competitive roster this upcoming season and will elevate this program bigtime over the next few years, my expectations for year one have been lowered by whats transpired over the past week or so.

Fact is we're really not in the running for any of the remaining big fish currently in the portal aside from Ledlum where all signs are pointing to him going to Indiana. I know some people are saying it's still early and other high level players may hit the portal, I don't quite think that's the case. Sure there may be one or two here or there but there won't be a flood of them hitting the portal in Mid April onwards.

Even if we hit on all or most of the guys we're prioritizing now we're looking at a potential backcourt consisting of Posh (if he's welcome back), Jenkins, Thomasson, Conway, Dual. That's good enough to be competitive but don't think that's near NCAA Tournament level especially with how murderously good the Big East is going to be this coming season.

Still early and maybe we emerge for solid guys like Hunter Sallis or RJ Luis but think Pitino is going to need to pull a rabbit out of his hat to field an NCAA Tournament caliber roster in year one.

Before everybody jumps down my throat, like I said - I believe Pitino is the best thing to happen to this program in my lifetime and will do huge things here. But all of the early hyperbole like Brandon Tierney saying "He'll make them a top 15 team overnight" and "Look at what he'll do in the portal in his first 5 hours on the job" is not the actual reality especially when competing against other straight up killer coaches for these prized portal recruits.
 
Really can't overstate how big of a blow losing Clayton is. He's one of true impact transfers in the portal, a kid that's in the top 25 on every site that does portal rankings, and those rankings have a very high degree of variance.

While I have no doubt Pitino will field a competitive roster this upcoming season and will elevate this program bigtime over the next few years, my expectations for year one have been lowered by whats transpired over the past week or so.

Fact is we're really not in the running for any of the remaining big fish currently in the portal aside from Ledlum where all signs are pointing to him going to Indiana. I know some people are saying it's still early and other high level players may hit the portal, I don't quite think that's the case. Sure there may be one or two here or there but there won't be a flood of them hitting the portal in Mid April onwards.

Even if we hit on all or most of the guys we're prioritizing now we're looking at a potential backcourt consisting of Posh (if he's welcome back), Jenkins, Thomasson, Conway, Dual. That's good enough to be competitive but don't think that's near NCAA Tournament level especially with how murderously good the Big East is going to be this coming season.

Still early and maybe we emerge for solid guys like Hunter Sallis or RJ Luis but think Pitino is going to need to pull a rabbit out of his hat to field an NCAA Tournament caliber roster in year one.

Before everybody jumps down my throat, like I said - I believe Pitino is the best thing to happen to this program in my lifetime and will do huge things here. But all of the early hyperbole like Brandon Tierney saying "He'll make them a top 15 team overnight" and "Look at what he'll do in the portal in his first 5 hours on the job" is not the actual reality especially when competing against other straight up killer coaches for these prized portal recruits.
Judging by the way the board ( including me ) can change on a dime from day to day I think 80% of the board today would say you are being too positive :)

I mean it's a sad day in redmen/redfans when the only thing we can all take solace and revel in was Mullins Revenge being so wrong again :)

( Just having fun with you all day MR )
 
I’m not really concerned. I’m just surprised that nobody has popped yet. I thought we would have had at least 1 commit by now. But also got to realize a lot of these transfers have been in the works for months. Rick has some ground to make up. But we got the portal and that’s still developing daily, some high school kids are still available (although not many top 100 but that’s ok we know Rick can develop talent) and I’m sure there is foreign talent that Rick will look at.
 
“Strategy was flawed from the beginning” is a crazy thing to write before seeing Pitino’s final roster. You don’t think Pitino knows exactly what he wants? How many teams have you led to the Final Four?
All coaches know what they want, they are just not always able to get what they want. This is why blaming only the coach for team failures doesn't make sense.
 
for the record clayton Did NOT ANNOUNCE yet. The only thing that was said was from a reporter who also said he was coming. Reporters know NOTHING. Gardners mom said he is staying loyal next day out. I dont believe everything I read. Again if we lose crayton 3 months ago we would all say who is this KID! So not worried one way or another.
 
Back
Top