Revamped Big East

The below entries were made last evening by Dick Weiss which identify the weak commitment which rutgers, yukon, w va., and louisville offer for their future with the Big East. My question continues: if the football schools are unwilling to make a substantial commitment to the Big East by way of a substantial exit fee then why should the basketball only schools cooperate by adding additional team.

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Dick Weiss Oct 11, 2011
if central florida leaves cusa for big east exit fee is $7 m plus tv revenue from fox cbs for next five years plus one time fee of $500,000, canm't start play until 2013. more expensive than big east

Dick Weiss Oct 11, 2011
big east presidents, chancellors meet rutgers, uconn, w va., louisville sweem to have no interest in signing off in increased exit fees in hopes some other conference will come calling. with big 12 sticking at 12, we don't see it happening. listen up: this is the only way to save this league.
 
The next step in this evolution will be that the remaining conferences are going to have their own football tournament AND their own basketball tournament, and tell the NCAA to go sit on an egg and rotate.
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The former could happen, the latter won't.

The appeal of the NCAA Tournament to the average person is the fact that small schools are going up against the powerhouses. It's the upsets or the potential for upsets that gets eyes glued to CBS on a Thursday afternoon in late March. Having a tournament with only four or five major conferences and you have nowhere near the attention, which means lower ratings, which means less dough. 
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Don't kid yourself, lawmanfan is on the money; this is exactly where all of this is headed. A major conference bball tournament will not be the same as the current March Madness but it would have no problem getting a very lucrative TV contract which is all that matters to the university presidents.
 
The next step in this evolution will be that the remaining conferences are going to have their own football tournament AND their own basketball tournament, and tell the NCAA to go sit on an egg and rotate.
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The former could happen, the latter won't.

The appeal of the NCAA Tournament to the average person is the fact that small schools are going up against the powerhouses. It's the upsets or the potential for upsets that gets eyes glued to CBS on a Thursday afternoon in late March. Having a tournament with only four or five major conferences and you have nowhere near the attention, which means lower ratings, which means less dough. 
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Don't kid yourself, lawmanfan is on the money; this is exactly where all of this is headed. A major conference bball tournament will not be the same as the current March Madness but it would have no problem getting a very lucrative TV contract which is all that matters to the university presidents.
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So you see a strong TV consumer interest in watching the same 16 teams that dominated their so-called super-duper conferences play AGAIN in March to see them reach their version of the sweet-sixteen??? That may fly the first time around but sports fans will tire very quickly about getting the same teams fed to them every year! The thing that makes March Madness is the anticipation of WHO gets invited, WHO they are matched up against, and the excitement of having a Cinderella like Butler, Gonzaga, Xavier, Temple, Davidson, make it to the Sweet 16.
The "alternate" tourney will be on TV, but it won't be CBS......maybe co-conspirators ESPN but by then those super conferences may collapse under their own weight and inability to govern themselves. Greed can take you just so far before Wall-Street type protesters start appearing on the campuses of UCLA, Berkley, Indiana blasting their presidents for selling out to the establishment. 
 
Lawman & MainMan:

Do you have a cite to any news article supporting your belief that the NCAA basketball tournament will become extinct? Thanks.
 
Lawman & MainMan:

Do you have a cite to any news article supporting your belief that the NCAA basketball tournament will become extinct? Thanks.
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There is NONE! That is because it is all speculation by sports writers, ESPN and some well-placed mouthpieces by ESPN in the current Big Four conferences!

Here is the LONG-TERM truth, and I should live long enough to enjoy it! Last April CBS/Turner and the NCAA agreed to a long- term deal.

The NCAA announced it reached a 14-year, nearly $11 billion agreement with CBS and Turner Sports for the TV rights to a 68-team tournament -- up three teams from the current 65. Negotiations with CBS/Turner, ESPN and Fox Sports initially had targeted a 96-team bracket.

ESPN is PISSED it did not get the Final Four so it is hatching a plot to steal it from CBS! I would not be surprised if TV mega-conglomerates like CBS, FOX and NBC start taking Disney to task on this plan!
 
Lawman & MainMan:

Do you have a cite to any news article supporting your belief that the NCAA basketball tournament will become extinct? Thanks.
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I don't because I'm making the exact opposite point.
 
At least coach Calhoun backs up my opinion that the Big East is still a stronger BB conference than the ACC!


Updated: October 12, 2011, 5:51 PM ET
UConn's Jim Calhoun is 'pro Big East'
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STORRS, Conn. -- Connecticut coach Jim Calhoun says he loves the Big East and would like the Huskies to remain in the conference -- but only if that is what is best for the school.

The Hall of Fame coach, speaking to reporters during his team's annual 3.4-mile "Husky Run" around campus, said the school has worked for 32 years to build itself into a national sports power, and needs to find the right conference fit.

But, he said he is "pro Big East," and hopes that is where UConn lands.

Calhoun said even after Syracuse and Pittsburgh leave, the league still will have nine basketball programs that made the NCAA tournament a year ago, and in his opinion is a stronger basketball conference than the ACC.  
 
 There's a parragraph in this article that jumps out at me:

In addition, the Big East’s long-term goal is to create two separate leagues under one umbrella, with the 12 football schools having a separate commissioner from the eight basketball schools.
The sides would offer a united front during all future TV negotiations.


http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/10/big_east_continues_to_explore.html
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Exactly the crux of what I was mentioning prior. That we are much stronger together.
 
Another article today by Luicci of the Star Ledger on how the big east is terribly divided. Most of the conference wants Temple as an All Sports member but Nova still wants to block that. Bball schools wan to lock into committment but schools hoping for invites from power conferences don't want to commit. This thing isn't going anywhere until there is near consensus on an increased buyout and some real action instead of balking.

Big east needs to add Temple for all sports ASAP. I'd say Memphis too but there's no talk of that. Schools trying to delay to see what Big 12 is going to do it seems.
 
 Nova needs to get over itself.
They think that they are going to be a football power and they don't want another Philly football team sucking up their oxygen.
First, they're never going to be a football power.
Second, if they are, a local rivalry helps both schools.
 
 http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7093376/connecticut-huskies-coaches-jim-calhoun-geno-auriemma-uconn-stay-big-east-conference
 
 Nova needs to get over itself.
They think that they are going to be a football power and they don't want another Philly football team sucking up their oxygen.
First, they're never going to be a football power.
Second, if they are, a local rivalry helps both schools.
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Considering they are having a horrible season (1-5 and in last place in CAA), their arrogance is comical!
They do not have a stadium.
They do not sell out in their current on-campus stadium that holds around 12,000.
It would take at least 5 years to build a D1a program.
If they block Temple they are the school that should leave!
I think they would be a great fit for the A10!
 
 Nova needs to get over itself.
They think that they are going to be a football power and they don't want another Philly football team sucking up their oxygen.
First, they're never going to be a football power.
Second, if they are, a local rivalry helps both schools.
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Considering they are having a horrible season (1-5 and in last place in CAA), their arrogance is comical!
They do not have a stadium.
They do not sell out in their current on-campus stadium that holds around 12,000.
It would take at least 5 years to build a D1a program.
If they block Temple they are the school that should leave!
I think they would be a great fit for the A10!
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Plus they had the balls to apply to the ACC.
 
 Here is a NY post article on expansion

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/big_east_to_invite_six_VYHt8ArQpLKGN5Cz8tZSlM
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Would be very short-sighted to invite Temple as football only.

The Comcast/NBC angle is pretty interesting....
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Temple needs to be ALL sports. They have a great bball tradition and are ranked one spot AHEAD of SJU in All-time wins and one spot behind use. They'd be a natural replacement for Syracuse.
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Nova worried about being in the same city as Temple, get over it! Rutgers and SHU are just as close physically to St. Johns as Temple is to Nova. RU and SHU recruit out of the same area and share the same TV market as SJU so shut up and do what is in the best interest of the league!!! 
 
 Agree fan55. Nova needs to shut their mouths and get on board. They don't have any chance at football right now, and Temple would only help their chances. Besides that, it would be great for the bball side of things. Nova needs to do what is best for the league, and Temple is in that equation quite firmly now. They are one of few schools that can help both the football and bball sides of the league. Time to do what it takes to save the league. Temple won't hurt Nova, the rivalry will only help.
 
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