(POST-GAME) Georgetown (MSG), Sun. Jan. 27, NOON, FOX / 570AM

[quote="Paultzman" post=317741][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=317738][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317720]Clueless team, clueless staff. Just lost to a G’Town team headed nowhere at home starting 2 freshmen. Mullin is now either 31 or 32 games below .500 in conference play.[/quote]. Game today was entirely on the Players on the Court . The Early timeouts were necessary to stem the streak the Hoyas had at the time . We are all guilty of overrating this team due to the early Record . Announcers keep saying how great our talent is, where is it any better than our BE opponents ? Simon ‘s offense is not of a BE player and hasn’t been all year . Today , McClung abused him on Defense . A big weakness of this team is SHOOTING .. Too much of our Offense is slashing to the basket , missing , not getting fouled , not getting any offensive rebounds . Can’t blame Mullin for Bad Shooting . Really bad .[/quote]
Aren’t they his players? Come on, not heresy to criticize CM.[/quote]. No one said it’s heresy . Of course Coaches are always open to criticism but, isn’t the performance of Players accountable too? These 2, Clark and Simon , under performed badly today . It contributed to the loss , without a doubt . We and the Coaches expect a better performance than what was given today . A lot was and is expected of Clark and Simon , today it wasn’t delivered . So , if Players don’t perform , it’s the Coaches fault ? Yes, responsibility of selecting Players is a Coach’s duty but , a certain level of performance is required too . Mullin has not Won enough yet , as we hoped . I doubt anyone who posts here would question that result .
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=317753]Mullin could punch some of you in the face, kill a puppy, and steal your wife and you’d still want him as coach despite 31 games below .500 in conference play.[/quote]

Has replacing a coach every 5 years worked for us?
 
[quote="41ndone" post=317744][quote="ctstorm" post=317733][quote="Paultzman" post=317728]https://twitter.com/djbouknight/status/1089613119930929152?s=21[/quote]


Don't like the sound of that.[/quote]

This could be really bad.[/quote]

Not to me. These guys need to do some soul searching. Guys playing poorly need to sit.. Players making bad decisions need to sit and get a teaching moment. Every game, Ponds take 1 or 2 ill advised three pointers will a near full shot clock. He has to be under 10% on those. It's not recorded, but that's a turnover. Clark and Heron take a 3 each without their feet set and without full ball control. Since Mullin said each game comes down to one or 2 possessions, then it's up to him to instill some discipline and avoid these wasted possessions.
 
[quote="stjohnnie75" post=317755][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317753]Mullin could punch some of you in the face, kill a puppy, and steal your wife and you’d still want him as coach despite 31 games below .500 in conference play.[/quote]

Has replacing a coach every 5 years worked for us?[/quote]

That has more to do with administration more than anything else. I'm not one who is afraid to change because it hasn't worked previously. Do what has to be done in order to get it right.

Sticking with Mullin because one is afraid of change would be ludicrous. We've already committed coaching malpractice by bringing in a coach without any experience and allow him to hire a staff that also has no experience (with the expection of Slice).

We're entering a gauntlet of a schedule the week and a half or so, and the season is currently on the brink. If we're not able to steal some games soon, then our NCAA Tournament hopes will soon be in the rear view. IMO, that is grounds for change being this was supposedly our "best team" since our Elite 8 squad two decades ago.
 
[quote="stjohnnie75" post=317755][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317753]Mullin could punch some of you in the face, kill a puppy, and steal your wife and you’d still want him as coach despite 31 games below .500 in conference play.[/quote]

Has replacing a coach every 5 years worked for us?[/quote]

Isn't that an indictment of the decision making at he administrative level? You make the right hire, you don't have to make coaching changes every 5 years.
 
The chorus is all for replacing Mullen. Are we ready to see the staff go? Hate to see Matt A go. Without him we would be playing a CYO schedule.
 
I think it's a combination of talented college-level players unable to consistently execute the free-flowing playing style favored by both the Staff and players.
It's time to slow it down, rein-in some threes, and execute on layups, jumpers in the lane, and finish drives.
It's on coaches and players to fix this now.
 
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Zach B;

"So Mustapha Heron admitted post game St John's went through the motions in the first half. After 8 days off. That's hard to comprehend. That's on the coaches AND the players"

Guys, I think we care more about the program that all of them do
And Mustapha wants to go pro after this season?
Not with that attitude
You need to bring it all the time in every game
Take nothing for granted - EVER!!!
 
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[quote="stjohnnie75" post=317755][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317753]Mullin could punch some of you in the face, kill a puppy, and steal your wife and you’d still want him as coach despite 31 games below .500 in conference play.[/quote]

Has replacing a coach every 5 years worked for us?[/quote]

Would you rather be 31 games under .500 with no coach, or 0-0 with a new coach? Mullin’s in way over his head and clearly has no clue or doesn’t care without recruiting or hiring real assistant. G’Town fans were laughing at us on our home court. Put him out of his misery already. 3-5 and going into a near impossible 3 game roadtrip. 3-8 or 4-7 is inevitable. Only shot left is going on run in BET as usual.
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=317762]Zach B;

"So Mustapha Heron admitted post game St John's went through the motions in the first half. After 8 days off. That's hard to comprehend. That's on the coaches AND the players"

Guys, I think we care more about the program that all of them do
And Mustapha wants to go pro after this season?
Not with that attitude
You need to bring it all the time in every game
Take nothing for granted - EVER!!![/quote]

Another way of not directly throwing the staff under the bus.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=317761]
I think it's a combination of talented college-level players unable to consistently execute the free-flowing playing style favored by both the Staff and players.
It's time to slow it down, rein-in some threes, and execute on layups, jumpers in the lane, and finish drives.
It's on coaches and players to fix this now.[/quote]

Whoever was doing the play by play and color commentary on the NCAA final four last year mentioned the incredible attention to detail in Villanova's practices under Jay Wright. To play with less discipline, you need the type of shooters and scorers that Nevada Las Vegas and Loyola Marymount had back in the day.
 
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[quote="Ray Morgan" post=317766][quote="Chicago Days" post=317761]
I think it's a combination of talented college-level players unable to consistently execute the free-flowing playing style favored by both the Staff and players.
It's time to slow it down, rein-in some threes, and execute on layups, jumpers in the lane, and finish drives.
It's on coaches and players to fix this now.[/quote]

Whoever was doing the play by play and color commentary on the NCAA final four last year mentioned the incredible attention to detail in Villanova's practices under Jay Wright. To play with less discipline, you need the type of shooters and scorers that Nevada Las Vegas and Loyola Marymount had back in the day.[/quote]

As I said Ray, you need top 10 talent to excel with this type of system. I agree with you.
 
Combination of all the above has led us to the brink. We will see how the season plays out. NCAA still not ooq but fading. We see from last year that a team (less talented) can rally and pull off a few upsets. That would right the ship.

Let’s see what happens.

The most disconcerting thing I’ve noticed in the BE games thus far is no
Sense of urgency until it’s too late. Lackadaisical play and poor decision making. The guys probably think that they are better than they are. The lack of height and depth exacerbates all that.

As I said previously I’m sure Chris will act on the best interests of the university and program if the season doesn’t work
Out as we thought.
 
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[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=317738][quote="Mike Zaun" post=317720]Clueless team, clueless staff. Just lost to a G’Town team headed nowhere at home starting 2 freshmen. Mullin is now either 31 or 32 games below .500 in conference play.[/quote]. Game today was entirely on the Players on the Court . The Early timeouts were necessary to stem the streak the Hoyas had at the time . We are all guilty of overrating this team due to the early Record . Announcers keep saying how great our talent is, where is it any better than our BE opponents ? Simon ‘s offense is not of a BE player and hasn’t been all year . Today , McClung abused him on Defense . A big weakness of this team is SHOOTING .. Too much of our Offense is slashing to the basket , missing , not getting fouled , not getting any offensive rebounds . Can’t blame Mullin for Bad Shooting . Really bad .[/quote]

Mullin is 15-47 in conference play. I think St. John's fans can blame him for anything we want. He chose not to recruit big men. He chose not to dump Mitch and hire an experienced coach. He chose to put together a cupcake OOC schedule. He chose to shorten his bench in November! The crap we are seeing game in and game out is his doing.
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=317767][quote="Ray Morgan" post=317766][quote="Chicago Days" post=317761]
I think it's a combination of talented college-level players unable to consistently execute the free-flowing playing style favored by both the Staff and players.
It's time to slow it down, rein-in some threes, and execute on layups, jumpers in the lane, and finish drives.
It's on coaches and players to fix this now.[/quote]

Whoever was doing the play by play and color commentary on the NCAA final four last year mentioned the incredible attention to detail in Villanova's practices under Jay Wright. To play with less discipline, you need the type of shooters and scorers that Nevada Las Vegas and Loyola Marymount had back in the day.[/quote]

As I said Ray, you need top 10 talent to excel with this type of system. I agree with you.[/quote]

You can’t just have superior athletes, you need superior basketball players to play this type of system
 
Team falling apart before our eyes. Bottom of the Big East with pre -season POY and all first team SEC transfer. Both leaving at season's end. Four players who will get major minutes next season will carry with them the following 3 point shooting % from their last season: 20%, 26%, 30% and our sharpshooter, 35%. Of course, those are JUCO and mid-major stats, which tend to get lower against high major competition. I'm stoked. Thank you sir, may I have another.
 
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[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=317730]We re going to have to man up and steal some games or it’s going to be a long season.[/quote]

Home losses to DePaul and Georgetown? Yeah, this season is almost done. I've said it all along, 9-9 in Big East play wasn't going to cut it. Not with that pathetic OOC schedule. Sorry, but I don't see this team as capable of going 8-2 or even 7-3 in their remaining conference games. Barring winning the Big East tournament, this team is NIT bound.
 
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