NIL’s

If you have HULU you may wish to watch the show highlighting aspects of NIL.

One of the athletes interviewed was Boogie Fland. Boogie came across as a mature, personable, and smart young man who would be successful in life even if he could not dribble a basketball.

The HULU. Program is a good watch.


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Cashing In: The Debate Over Paying College Athletes

NIL is here, but who's making money and what are the potential pitfalls? From high school to college, we tackled all of it on IMPACT x Nightline.
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Latest on 2 of the biggest winners of the NIL sweepstakes. The Cavinder twins are leaving college basketball as they have decided more opportunities outside of college basketball. They are Big winners of NIL and are now converting that to additional opportunities. What gives them the high payouts is their social media presence (they have Instagram following of 630,000 and 4,500,000 Instagram followers, with 140 Million likes). One their NIL deals was with the WWE and now they can pursue a WWE career plus continuing other social media deals.
 
It’s apparent that a minimum of a couple mil annually is needed to build and maintain a legitimate, contender level roster. Does Rick have that at his disposal?
 
Remember that a lot of money for NIL, like for the Cavinder twins, isn't actually set up by the school. A lot of that is just based off of social media popularity, which is what NIL was really intended to be.
 
SJU61982 said:
With Repole in the fold, that shouldn't be a problem.
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Rick and Repole waiting to allocate the roster budget for bigger fish is a logical extension of that theory. Not inconceivable, obviously, but it certainly is a leap of faith.
 
smalley said:
Rick and Repole waiting to allocate the roster budget for bigger fish is a logical extension of that theory. Not inconceivable, obviously, but it certainly is a leap of faith.
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FTR, I always thought the 2024 class would be the primary target of this staff. It's reportedly loaded, especially in the northeast.

That being said, we need to somehow fill out a roster for this year.
 
The NCAA went from being ridiculously rigid and even heartless at times, (a kid could not even get a few bucks to get a few groceries for his family).

Now the pendulum has swung completely in the opposite direction, where a kid is essentially a free agent going to the highest bidder.

Controls must be put in place. I don’t know if it is a two year guarantee or an NIL team cap, but something must be done. This is the Wild West.

And if anyone is caught going around the NIL cap, make that school must suffer drastic consequences. No tournament and a loss of half their scholarships for three years.

It is at a point now that since Shanley is such a great recruiter in his own right, he should have a sit down with Steve Cohen and give him an honorary doctorate. Imagine that NIL windfall.
 
kranmars said:
The NCAA went from being ridiculously rigid and even heartless at times, (a kid could not even get a few bucks to get a few groceries for his family).

Now the pendulum has swung completely in the opposite direction, where a kid is essentially a free agent going to the highest bidder.

Controls must be put in place. I don’t know if it is a two year guarantee or an NIL team cap, but something must be done. This is the Wild West.

And if anyone is caught going around the NIL cap, make that school must suffer drastic consequences. No tournament and a loss of half their scholarships for three years.

It is at a point now that since Shanley is such a great recruiter in his own right, he should have a sit down with Steve Cohen and give him an honorary doctorate. Imagine that NIL windfall.
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I dont see how you can put the toothpaste back in the tube. These kids will be making a ton of money. We are watching professional basketball now. We have to accept it.
 
Mullins Revenge said:
I dont see how you can put the toothpaste back in the tube. These kids will be making a ton of money. We are watching professional basketball now. We have to accept i
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Fully understand why any player would take the $…you’d have to be nuts not to seize this opportunity…However, they need to be careful what they ask for…the problem is that they are NOT pros, just becoming semi-pros and as NIL $s escalate, they will face the same venom that pros do when they fail…while they face some of it today, it is nothing like what they will face when there is no longer a scintilla of the student-athlete aspect.

Fandom is for the the university - not the player…if transfer portal and NIL continues the current trend, fans will lose interest…why see a semi-pro that is effectively a temp employee of the University (albeit paid by 3rd party - for now) who will leave at any moment for a better deal. College bball effectively becoming a season long pick-up team that will be gone at season’s end.

Heaven forbid, schools become incentivized or forced to increase ticket prices as means to subsidize their core business.
 
Everyone assumes it would easy for the NCAA to put a cap on NIL if they wanted to, I take the opposite view. NIL are not given by the school as is to allow athletes to benefit from their name, image and likeness. It is only here because California passed a law to allow it for schools in their state another states were looking to do the same while Congress was also making noise and getting involved so the NCAA caved.

While they can set guidelines like ensuring their schools do not provide the benefit, it is outside income. For them to try to cap it brings other things in play:
  1. There are lawsuits trying to make athletes employees of the school they play for, something the schools and the NCAA is fighting agains tooth and nail. Trying to cap income could aid the cause.
  2. Three of the major 4 sports league in the US have salary caps but the cap is not on the individual players but the team as a whole. The players unions of those sports had to approve the implementation of the caps. There are movements out there trying to get the college athletes to form unions, something that the schools and the NCAA are afraid of and trying to cap NIL can be counterproductive in their fight against unionization.
  3. Putting a Cap on the players when there is not one for the coaches they play for might be a problem and cause backlash and scrutiny that might backfire.
  4. Even in dismissing one, two or all three both of the above, putting a cap in might again draw legislative attention and could force other changes the NCAA doesn’t want to make or further arose their power.
  5. Bonus: Not a potential legislative or legal consequence but it could hasten what many feel is the inevitable departure of the Big Five Conferences (or at least some of their schools) to form their own association costing the NCAA a lot of revenue.
 
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