$$$tudent AthleteNext year we’ll see a $3M “college” basketball student
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Bangkok Johnny
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I was thinking the same thing.
Come on guys, they can’t just cap it. Schools colluding to fix prices and markets is a criminal violation of the federal antitrust laws. And on the civil side, players can recover treble damages and legal fees. If it were that simple, it would not be this festering sore. Absent congressional legislation and/or a collective bargaining unit, it will continue to be the Wild West. Even the rumored settlement in the NCAA pending lawsuits will require an act of Congress. Good luck with that.
SJUDave
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Not that it would ever happen, obviously, but 99% of head coaches would agree with you
The only reasonable thing I can think of is to sign a contract that you’re going to stay for 2 years (allow to leave for the NBA). The idea of leaving the following year for more money elsewhere is destroying college basketball. We’ve TOTALLY gotten away with the concept of a “student athlete”!
And 100% would rebel against the same criteria being put on them. Coaches hypocrisy is a huge factor in creating the cesspool CBB is right now.
Years ago, I asked a D1 coach at a clinic why coaches don’t put a clause in their contracts that their recruits are released from their commitment if the coach leaves? This after he pontificated high and mighty about his “right” to better himself. Needless to say his reply was a 100% non-reply.
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Or , he could have a No NBA Career . I understand he can’t hit the broad side of the Barn with his shot …
And , we have often discussed on this Board that Shooting is somewhat a Gift . Kind of like playing the Violin .
You either have a Shot or , you don’t .if shooting could be taught , everyone would be Chris Mullin or Reggie Miller , not to mention Stef Curry .
Plus , isn’t he undersized as well ?
You mean like in the MLB, NFL, NBA and NHL? Oh wait, such contracts in those higher paid leagues don’t exist.
Coaches don’t want that either in case things don’t work out.
Silly Donovan
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I hope all these NIL kids have tough skins cause fans will start treating them as professionals. They can expect to be cheered loudly when they do well and booed loudly when they don’t. The old “they’re just kids” doesn’t hold water anymore.
Shooting is a skill — which by definition can be learned.
Coordination I would classify as a talent which can only be improved slightly.
I don’t know how long ago that clinic was but if it was before NIL and one free transfer, such a clause in a coach’s contract would mean nothing. A player had the right to leave in your scenario however unless he was going to be a graduate student, the NCAA rules would still mandate that the player sit out a year as a transfer and there was no waiver process for such a scenario. Such a clause would be null and void.
Best idea I heard recently was giving kids a four year guaranteed contract, but then implement something similar to the European soccer leagues where schools need to buy out the contract from the other school before making a new deal. Obviously imperfect, but at least incentivizes more talent into the mid-majors, rewards them for developing talent, etc.
And for high majors, they'll not only get money if they lose a guy but maybe it also makes programs less likely to do it if it costs them a pretty penny.
And for high majors, they'll not only get money if they lose a guy but maybe it also makes programs less likely to do it if it costs them a pretty penny.
Thank you X 100.
Something has to happen and dk's idea is not crazy.
What sports contract works like that?
They aren’t supposed to be paid for their performance anyway. It is for their name, image, and likeness — as thinly veiled as that may be.
Silly Donovan
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Most of these kids were never students to begin with and now don’t even have to pretend to be.
And the NCAA has not cared for some time. Think about it, when was the last time you heard of a college athlete being ineligible due to poor grades? Let’s see, for me it was about 50 years ago. And colleges are as much to blame as they are more concerned about their bottom line then the future or welfare of any of their athletes.
I never thought I would see the day where college athletics would have sunken lower than that of professional sport franchises.
I understand, I asked it off the cuff and somewhat hypothetically in a conversation largely centering around the bigger picture of the way “student athletes” were considered and treated as anything but by schools. It was in a bar and in no way a “legalistic” conversation, he pontificated, I countered with the question.
Certainly way pre-NIL, I haven’t attended a clinic in decades, probably late 70’s to early 80’s.
I'd also say, for the people talking about these players like they're all spoiled and only have upside, the players/student-athletes are all on one year contracts. There's guys who wanted to remain at the school but the coach told them they should enter the portal. No buy-out, no recourse, etc. Imagine if coaches were on one year contracts with no guaranteed money?