NIL’s

ptc666 said:
They really should just cap it. If the whole point was that schools were taking advantage of these kids by using them to generate profit for themselves; then fair pay to the players generating that profit is reasonable. I fully support capitalism, but this has gotten out of hand with kids just shopping themselves around to the highest bidder year over year. They are no longer student athletes if they not invested in at least the illusion of an education.

Pick a number in the hundreds of thousands and let that be the max a school can give per player. It levels the playing field, eliminates this nonsense of kids leveraging one school against another and satisfies the original intent of compensating the kids for their contributions to the revenues they generate. Plus, if a kid can only make the same amount of money regardless of where they play it likely leads to longer term commitments to the teams that invested in their development. And that leads to better basketball and a better experience for the kids playing, the kids in the stands, the universities and us as fans.
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Then it will simply be back to back door deals to give kids more so they choose them. I agree there’s gotta be changes, I just don’t see how the ncaa can institute a max cap. Or at least effectively.
 
ptc666 said:
They really should just cap it. If the whole point was that schools were taking advantage of these kids by using them to generate profit for themselves; then fair pay to the players generating that profit is reasonable. I fully support capitalism, but this has gotten out of hand with kids just shopping themselves around to the highest bidder year over year. They are no longer student athletes if they not invested in at least the illusion of an education.

Pick a number in the hundreds of thousands and let that be the max a school can give per player. It levels the playing field, eliminates this nonsense of kids leveraging one school against another and satisfies the original intent of compensating the kids for their contributions to the revenues they generate. Plus, if a kid can only make the same amount of money regardless of where they play it likely leads to longer term commitments to the teams that invested in their development. And that leads to better basketball and a better experience for the kids playing, the kids in the stands, the universities and us as fans.
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Actually, you don't fully support capitalism. This is not hard. Let college athletes be like every other person in America and get paid what someone wants to pay them.
 
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NIL’s

http://amp.awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/charles-barkley-travesty-disgrace-paying-players-nil.html Charles Barkley has some interesting observations about college basketball in the next five years. NIL’s are changing the landscape of college basketball. Is St. John’s going to be able...
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ptc666 said:
They really should just cap it. If the whole point was that schools were taking advantage of these kids by using them to generate profit for themselves; then fair pay to the players generating that profit is reasonable. I fully support capitalism, but this has gotten out of hand with kids just shopping themselves around to the highest bidder year over year. They are no longer student athletes if they not invested in at least the illusion of an education.

Pick a number in the hundreds of thousands and let that be the max a school can give per player. It levels the playing field, eliminates this nonsense of kids leveraging one school against another and satisfies the original intent of compensating the kids for their contributions to the revenues they generate. Plus, if a kid can only make the same amount of money regardless of where they play it likely leads to longer term commitments to the teams that invested in their development. And that leads to better basketball and a better experience for the kids playing, the kids in the stands, the universities and us as fans.
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You can’t cap what a private citizen can earn. The schools aren’t paying. It’s a free market. If the schools were paying and the NCAA wanted some type of competitive balance they could have a cap. But not if private collectives are paying.
 
adavis1 said:
Actually, you don't fully support capitalism. This is not hard. Let college athletes be like every other person in America and get paid what someone wants to pay them.
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The question is WHO SHOULD PAY THEM?

The NBA. MLB and the NFL are organized, professional sports organizations with unionized athletes.

If the NCAA and their member institutions are now no different than professional sports organizations, then there needs to be a complete separation from students competing as salaried players from the academic structure of colleges.

Require an affiliation with one of the professional leagues and their teams just as they exist in the G-League. The colleges would contract with professional teams for sponsorship. CONTRACTS would be required and no players would be considered free agents as teams (schools) would retain trading rights as do professional teams around the world (as in soccer federations).

Limit the membership to 120 colleges.

All other schools would participate under the amateur NCAA umbrella but would not be eligible for the Big Dance but a different tournament arrangement.
 
MarkRedman said:
Thinking long term, I would think that development for potential future income for many years would trump more money upfront
But that opinion is coming from an old guy - kids generally don't look at things that way - they want immediate rewards/gratification
This doesn't sound promising for St John's
Hoping that Ledlum wins in court and comes back along with Dingle
Might well be our best option at this point
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100% the best option.
 
Since these NIL contracts are so large, these players should have to forfeit some money if they don’t perform at a certain level. Minimal expectations in scoring rebounding etc. should be in place for these vastly over paid professionals.
 
Silly Donovan said:
Since these NIL contracts are so large, these players should have to forfeit some money if they don’t perform at a certain level. Minimal expectations in scoring rebounding etc. should be in place for these vastly over paid professionals.
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Silly was a tough first date
 
Silly Donovan said:
Since these NIL contracts are so large, these players should have to forfeit some money if they don’t perform at a certain level. Minimal expectations in scoring rebounding etc. should be in place for these vastly over paid professionals.
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shhh. My boss doesn't know I've been quiet quitting for 20 years.
 
Mike Zaun Returns said:
Capitalism still involves contracts & guidelines. NIL is wild west.
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There are still contracts, but the NCAA and the teams are not "involved". Neither has any legal say in the matter besides whether they will admit them to school or if they will put them on the roster. And the only guidelines in capitalism are those put in place by the big, bad Federal government, otherwise it's the wild west. Companies in the end do what is right for them, or should I say right for their majority stockholders who in turn are are usually less interested in their employees and more interested in shareholder value.
 
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