Mike Anderson Is A Program Builder

It would be interesting to see if HC TJ would use the 45 mins of Hell. He might take a different approach.

Mike Krzyzewski played for Bob Knight and was an assistant under him. But, he doesn't use the motion offense.

45 minutes of Hell is a good program. But it does have weakness. We saw it break down in several games last season. I love watching Coach Anderson's teams. There's a reason he's never had a losing season. But, his teams often struggle early in the season.
 
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[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=392924]It would be interesting to see if HC TJ would use the 45 mins of Hell. He might take a different approach.

Mike Krzyzewski played for Bob Knight and was an assistant under him. But, he doesn't use the motion offense.

45 minutes of Hell is a good program. But it does have weakness. We saw it break down in several games last season. I love watching Coach Anderson's teams. There's a reason he's never had a losing season. But, his teams often struggle early in the season.[/quote]
Is TJ's coaching strategy going to be play for overtime every game in case he wants to employ "45" minutes of hell? ;) :)
 
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[quote="MCNPA" post=392918][quote="Moose" post=392916]https://twitter.com/JUCOadvocate/status/1282504483650469888[/quote]

I’d like him to be a stud recruiter before he leaves for a HC job.[/quote]

He'll likely end up at a low or mid-major, where he'll lean heavily on his juco connections. I think he'll be fine. Plus after observing Anderson so long, I think he'll know the type of staff he'll need to assemble.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=392963][quote="MCNPA" post=392918][quote="Moose" post=392916]https://twitter.com/JUCOadvocate/status/1282504483650469888[/quote]

I’d like him to be a stud recruiter before he leaves for a HC job.[/quote]

He'll likely end up at a low or mid-major, where he'll lean heavily on his juco connections. I think he'll be fine. Plus after observing Anderson so long, I think he'll know the type of staff he'll need to assemble.[/quote]

Just saying, I’d like see our young AHC to be the lead recruiter on some studs for us here too. It’s an important part of the job and he’s gonna need those skills if he wants to be a successful HC. This is not a knock on him. I suppose maybe he has better recruiting connections down south and the Midwest. For this reason I doubt he’d necessarily want to take over after CMA retires but who knows? I’d be all for it as I really like cma’s style and think it would work out well. I don’t see Mike Anderson retiring for a while though.
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=392968]Do we have a list of who was lead recruiter for each kid we've landed?[/quote]

Ask Zaun or usguard;) :)
 
If TJ got a head coaching gig we could probably replace him with Slice on short notice who might still be under contract :)
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=392981]If TJ got a head coaching gig we could probably replace him with Slice on short notice who might still be under contract :)[/quote]

Ahhhh....Slice....such fond memories. He's the Bobby Bonilla of college coaching contracts. :whistle:
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=392981]If TJ got a head coaching gig we could probably replace him with Slice on short notice who might still be under contract :)[/quote]

Bobby Bonilla...the Sequel.
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=392983][quote="mjmaherjr" post=392981]If TJ got a head coaching gig we could probably replace him with Slice on short notice who might still be under contract :)[/quote]

Ahhhh....Slice....such fond memories. He's the Bobby Bonilla of college coaching contracts. :whistle:[/quote]

You beat me to it! DIdn't see it. Lol.
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=392981]If TJ got a head coaching gig we could probably replace him with Slice on short notice who might still be under contract :)[/quote]

The issues that Slice had when here wouldn't exist with the way the new staff is constructed. B)
 
[quote="L J S A" post=392968]Do we have a list of who was lead recruiter for each kid we've landed?[/quote]

Someone can correct me if i'm wrong:

TJ: Rutherford, Sears, Cole, McGriff
Macon: Dunn, Champagnie, Posh, Wusu, Toro(?)
DeMeo: Moore
 
These are direct quotes from Cleveland from a podcast posted today.

“You know he was one of those under the radar guys that we found late and that’s kinda what we specialize in, to be honest under the radar guys who buy in and come in with a chip on their shoulder”
- T.J. Cleveland on Nick Rutherford

“You know that’s the funny part, we get a mock sometimes just because sometimes we don’t hit on kids in the rankings... We believe in our development system, we believe in the way we play, it allows kids to excel and play, you know, up to their potential and sometimes surpass what others think of them and they think of themselves, so we take that to heart and we spend a lot of time developing guys from an individual standpoint and from a team standpoint”
- TJ Cleveland

Cleveland and the staff are worried about fit, development, and success, not about the amount of stars next to a recruits name. So why should we be worried about it? Staff has to improve every season for the near future, and last year wasn’t a bad start. Until that doesn’t happen, I don’t see a reason to complain. People remember wins, not stars.

Interview with TJ Cleveland, most of the St. John’s talk is in the last 7 minutes

https://twitter.com/the1nss/status/1283381456203636742?s=21
 
[quote="JO23" post=393182]These are direct quotes from Cleveland from a podcast posted today.

“You know he was one of those under the radar guys that we found late and that’s kinda what we specialize in, to be honest under the radar guys who buy in and come in with a chip on their shoulder”
- T.J. Cleveland on Nick Rutherford

“You know that’s the funny part, we get a mock sometimes just because sometimes we don’t hit on kids in the rankings... We believe in our development system, we believe in the way we play, it allows kids to excel and play, you know, up to their potential and sometimes surpass what others think of them and they think of themselves, so we take that to heart and we spend a lot of time developing guys from an individual standpoint and from a team standpoint”
- TJ Cleveland

Cleveland and the staff are worried about fit, development, and success, not about the amount of stars next to a recruits name. So why should we be worried about it? Staff has to improve every season for the near future, and last year wasn’t a bad start. Until that doesn’t happen, I don’t see a reason to complain. People remember wins, not stars.

Interview with TJ Cleveland, most of the St. John’s talk is in the last 7 minutes

https://twitter.com/the1nss/status/1283381456203636742?s=21[/quote]

Sounds like a post-hoc justification for whiffing on top prospects to date. Finding the right players and coaching them up is critical. But there is no question that you need top talent to compete in the Big East. Just having a good staff and a good system is not enough. There are a number of schools in the Big East, let alone the country, with equal if not superior staffs and systems. Many of those schools have far superior talent.

I really really liked Nick Rutherford. And role players like him are important. But we are going to need a significant talent upgrade to become an upper-echelon team, which is what I hope all of us are still aspiring for.
 
[quote="Boo Harvey" post=393190][quote="JO23" post=393182]These are direct quotes from Cleveland from a podcast posted today.

“You know he was one of those under the radar guys that we found late and that’s kinda what we specialize in, to be honest under the radar guys who buy in and come in with a chip on their shoulder”
- T.J. Cleveland on Nick Rutherford

“You know that’s the funny part, we get a mock sometimes just because sometimes we don’t hit on kids in the rankings... We believe in our development system, we believe in the way we play, it allows kids to excel and play, you know, up to their potential and sometimes surpass what others think of them and they think of themselves, so we take that to heart and we spend a lot of time developing guys from an individual standpoint and from a team standpoint”
- TJ Cleveland

Cleveland and the staff are worried about fit, development, and success, not about the amount of stars next to a recruits name. So why should we be worried about it? Staff has to improve every season for the near future, and last year wasn’t a bad start. Until that doesn’t happen, I don’t see a reason to complain. People remember wins, not stars.

Interview with TJ Cleveland, most of the St. John’s talk is in the last 7 minutes

https://twitter.com/the1nss/status/1283381456203636742?s=21[/quote]

Sounds like a post-hoc justification for whiffing on top prospects to date. Finding the right players and coaching them up is critical. But there is no question that you need top talent to compete in the Big East. Just having a good staff and a good system is not enough. There are a number of schools in the Big East, let alone the country, with equal if not superior staffs and systems. Many of those schools have far superior talent.

I really really liked Nick Rutherford. And role players like him are important. But we are going to need a significant talent upgrade to become an upper-echelon team, which is what I hope all of us are still aspiring for.[/quote]

They didn't just start this system here. You may not agree with it but that's what it is. We haven't been an upper echelon team for twenty years and were not going to be one anytime soon.

What I'm hoping happens is we get better over the next 2 - 3 years and then start to attract higher ranked players. Until then I'm probably going to get frustrated a lot over our progress and losses. We've been through this four year cycle of replacing coaches and, in some cases, starting from scratch enough now. Either Anderson's the right man, and I think he is, or were going to ride this merry-go-round into ever deeper frustration as we recycle coaches.
 
Mike Anderson led UAB to 3 straight NCAA tournaments including a Sweet 16. I admittedly don't know the roster of those teams but I can't imagine he was bringing in multiple 4 star/Top 100 guys out of Conference USA.

Also, Boo Harvey...I agree that you need talent to compete in the Big East but even if we can make the argument that the Big East is the equivalent of or close to the ACC/SEC/Big10 in quality...those conferences are miles ahead in recruiting. We don't see many 5 star guys here and not nearly as many 4's. According to 247 rankings for 2020 the Big East only has 10 four-star players coming in total. 3 of them are going to Marquette. 5 teams don't have any 4 stars coming in. Butler's entire class i five 3-star guys. You need talent to compete in the Big East but just because a guy doesn't have stars doesn't mean that they're not talented. For all we know Vince Cole may be the most impactful new player in Big East this year.
 
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[quote="Boo Harvey" post=393190]
Sounds like a post-hoc justification for whiffing on top prospects to date. [/quote]

Man, some of you guys would give an aspirin a headache with this stuff. :pinch:
 
Most fans will buy in once they prove their method of lower recruiting and emphasis on defensive turnovers starts winning 20+ games consistently. Until then, it's more than fair to be skeptical. Where has this worked in the Big East? 2-3 star talent playing against other Big East teams full of 4 star kids just seems like it doesn't make sense to be a factor but we will see. I've always said if CMA and staff can get occasional 4 star guys, I bet they will do quite well here. If not though, they will have trouble.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=393265]Most fans will buy in once they prove their method of lower recruiting and emphasis on defensive turnovers starts winning 20+ games consistently. Until then, it's more than fair to be skeptical. Where has this worked in the Big East? 2-3 star talent playing against other Big East teams full of 4 star kids just seems like it doesn't make sense to be a factor but we will see. I've always said if CMA and staff can get occasional 4 star guys, I bet they will do quite well here. If not though, they will have trouble.[/quote]

Butler's the one that immediately jumped into my mind. They haven't had a big recruit in awhile right? Baldwin and McDermott weren't very highly ranked guys. Joey Brunk was a pretty good get if I remember but he wasn't anywhere close to say Shamorie Ponds. I'd like to have Butler's level of success. Those guys win 20+ games almost every year. We'd all take that right now.
 
[quote="QueensBall" post=393269][quote="Mike Zaun" post=393265]Most fans will buy in once they prove their method of lower recruiting and emphasis on defensive turnovers starts winning 20+ games consistently. Until then, it's more than fair to be skeptical. Where has this worked in the Big East? 2-3 star talent playing against other Big East teams full of 4 star kids just seems like it doesn't make sense to be a factor but we will see. I've always said if CMA and staff can get occasional 4 star guys, I bet they will do quite well here. If not though, they will have trouble.[/quote]

Butler's the one that immediately jumped into my mind. They haven't had a big recruit in awhile right? Baldwin and McDermott weren't very highly ranked guys. Joey Brunk was a pretty good get if I remember but he wasn't anywhere close to say Shamorie Ponds. I'd like to have Butler's level of success. Those guys win 20+ games almost every year. We'd all take that right now.[/quote]

Tucker 5* transfer under Holtmann but yes pretty similar under Jordan. The difference is that Butler gets real bigs and that's a huge need of ours.
 
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