We may not live that long
Mike Anderson - Former Coach
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MugCostanza
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Geez we passed on Dan Hurley for Chris Mullin and Hurley has turned one of our rivals into a national championship contender already. What another kick in the nuts it would be if we let Pitino go and rebuild Georgetown into a power again in short order, which he would do if given the opportunity.
Georgetown’s probably a better job but I think Rick P would prefer St. John’s honestly
Convinced that Pitino is probably the only coach we would have a legit shot at who could truly change this program in 3 years.
Anyone else, Anderson or otherwise really doesn't matter. Since it won't be Pitino, I'd ride Anderson out for whatever will cost University the least and then just hire a Jared Grasso type for a more modest salary and see where things land. It really won't matter too much because without a big name coach like Pitino who can bring buzz, NIL, recruits it really won't matter anymore
Anyone else, Anderson or otherwise really doesn't matter. Since it won't be Pitino, I'd ride Anderson out for whatever will cost University the least and then just hire a Jared Grasso type for a more modest salary and see where things land. It really won't matter too much because without a big name coach like Pitino who can bring buzz, NIL, recruits it really won't matter anymore
Larry Wright
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My goal is always the Tournament, grew up watching Louie teams.
With that goal stated have to say Anderson has been the 2nd worst coach in school history.
And that is saying something.
With that goal stated have to say Anderson has been the 2nd worst coach in school history.
And that is saying something.
I’ll try to keep this simple. Mike seems a nice guy, but the game has passed him by. The in the huddle stuff was painful, especially when the players seemed lost and counting on the coach to provide some answers to stem the tide. The HC can’t put the ball in basket, but good ones not only calm things down, but also give the players specific direction. Clearly Mike failed in that regard and players’ body language confirmed that.
The program needs a jolt and hopefully Shanley realizes that and after the season takes a run at Pitino who clearly still has his fastball on sidelines and recruits at high level. If not, I guess a rising HC at lower level w a ton of energy could be Plan B. There has to be someone out there to at least get program to Providence level of competence.
The program needs a jolt and hopefully Shanley realizes that and after the season takes a run at Pitino who clearly still has his fastball on sidelines and recruits at high level. If not, I guess a rising HC at lower level w a ton of energy could be Plan B. There has to be someone out there to at least get program to Providence level of competence.
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Larry Wright
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Pitino was my favorite Knick coach and a big fan of his. Also I was drunk and struck up conversation with him in urinal of his brother in laws bar. Got to give credit to a guy that will have a conversation with a drunk dude at a urinal.
With that being said I think we have to understand finally that the program is broken and needs a rebuild. Lavin made sense after Norm. Mullin was a Hail Mary and then Anderson made sense after Mullin.
We need young blood now though. No more putting makeup on a pig. Need up and comer mid Major coach to come in and start over.
Greg St Jean . For those thinking he’s too much like Mullin , think again . He’s Coaching at Dallas Mavs now . He’s young , compatible with the young players today , is a workhorse and I think loved his time here at St Johns . And , forget the criticism that he needs to be a HC before he’s considered . He’s got a BB Pedigree at the NBA and College level . And , I would not let Cragg be the decision maker on the next Coach . He can be part of a Committee but , not the sole leader .
Letting UCONN back into the BE was and is a disaster for the rest of the league . As a State School they have unlimited $$$$ to spend on everything Sports . Sure Hurley would have been a option for us , so would Bobby Hurley but , the Hurley’s have never been St John’s friendly including Bob Sr .
With all due respect guys like Greg St Jean aren’t getting it done. Look at what’s coaching in the Big East right now. Look what youre recruiting against. Matta, smart, Miller, Hurley etc. You need star power. Pitino or bust. End of story.
Chris Mack is out there too. Along w Archie Miller. But I wouldn’t go w either. Georgetown is going for the home run hire next year too. They’ll elevate themselves
Chris Mack is out there too. Along w Archie Miller. But I wouldn’t go w either. Georgetown is going for the home run hire next year too. They’ll elevate themselves
If I am not mistaken there are still 17 games to play plus the BE Tournament. A lot can happen from now until April and while disappointed with our play, lack of improvement, perhaps lack of coaching, my pitchfork is not out.
As others have pointed out we have a coach, a true professional coach , who also happens to be a very good person. Yes he gets paid $2 plus million per annum to coach , but that is not his fault , that is the market and please don’t blame him for what the school offered him.
The season may very well not play out in the manner in which we hoped for but I would hope that we all behave and post in a respectful manner towards CMA and the players the rest of the way.
At this time Pitino is the only coach in America who would consider taking the SJU job and who could also attract top recruits. All other candidates willing to take the job will simply result in the continuous failure of the past thirty years.
I'm not blind and what I've seen on the court the last few weeks has been rough on the eyes. CMA seems like a good guy trying his best but when teams don't win coaches end up fired. For me that's a shrug. Keep him at the end of the year, move on, I just have seen nothing from this University to indicate that any real sustainable winning is possible. I bought my current season ticket plan in 2010 and have lowered my expectations of what the program can achieve about three times. No matter where I've set the bar it hasn't been low enough.
My wife and I are basketball junkies with an empty nest and the season is in the winter. It's a night out, that's the bar now. I see no indication the school is truly interested in winning. If it fell into their laps they would take it.
If I'm wrong so be it (and great!) but I don't think there is a won/loss record that could get CMA fired after this year anyway. Again shrug. SJU is BC, or Depaul, etc. A program in a major conference that is happy with their share of the revenue that brings and unwilling to truly invest in anything more. Not judging, it is a University, just looking at the situation for what it is.
I don't see any coaching move changing things. Pitino comes up but as someone who wanted him after Mullin (it was the obvious move if the school cared about BB) I would have been shocked if they actually pulled the trigger then. I would be just as shocked now.
Saw some friends before the game, and at halftime last night. Got ten minutes of real basketball action at the end. That's really all I can expect now.
It is what it is.
My wife and I are basketball junkies with an empty nest and the season is in the winter. It's a night out, that's the bar now. I see no indication the school is truly interested in winning. If it fell into their laps they would take it.
If I'm wrong so be it (and great!) but I don't think there is a won/loss record that could get CMA fired after this year anyway. Again shrug. SJU is BC, or Depaul, etc. A program in a major conference that is happy with their share of the revenue that brings and unwilling to truly invest in anything more. Not judging, it is a University, just looking at the situation for what it is.
I don't see any coaching move changing things. Pitino comes up but as someone who wanted him after Mullin (it was the obvious move if the school cared about BB) I would have been shocked if they actually pulled the trigger then. I would be just as shocked now.
Saw some friends before the game, and at halftime last night. Got ten minutes of real basketball action at the end. That's really all I can expect now.
It is what it is.
Is there actually any indication that Pitino would seriously consider taking the job if it was available after this season? I'd imagine he'd have some other options as well. By the way, let's also not forget that Pitino is 70 and will be 71 before the start of next season.
Keith Richards will be 80 on his next birthday...and he's still going strong.
Rick Pitino Jr's New Mexico team is undefeated and ranked...for the first time in eight years. Maybe some money could be thrown his way. Still, I prefer his dad.
L J S A
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Yes
But can Keith Richard’s coach?
Tea leaves say Father Shanley will be prime decision maker in any head coaching search.
If Pitino splash hire is not in cards as I hope, keep an eye on Mike Boynton. I suggest fans also look at the ISU experience going from door mat with handful of wins to sweet 16 team in year one and very competent in year two after hiring TJ Otzelberger. TJ was not a national name, but is a skilled recruiter, transfer broker and solid on sidelines. Perhaps a local guy like Boynton would be a similar level candidate and worth considering if he wants to come home and tackle this mess.
If Pitino splash hire is not in cards as I hope, keep an eye on Mike Boynton. I suggest fans also look at the ISU experience going from door mat with handful of wins to sweet 16 team in year one and very competent in year two after hiring TJ Otzelberger. TJ was not a national name, but is a skilled recruiter, transfer broker and solid on sidelines. Perhaps a local guy like Boynton would be a similar level candidate and worth considering if he wants to come home and tackle this mess.