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Eric Campbell finally sent to minors. I would have suggested stabbing him in the brain like they do in Walking Dead to ensure he never comes back. But I guess this will have to do.
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Really nice kid, very professional. But he was an automatic out and this had to happen a few weeks ago. Hopefully he can get it together in the minors.
 
It doesn't matter where the team is in the standings. We should be in the playoffs. That lineup was atrocious yesterday. 5-9 didn't hit above .200 and we managed to win.

But that doesn't change the fact that I think Terry is a hairless nutsack. Was at game 5 last year and he let Harvey and the entire crowd run right over him. As soon as I saw Harvey run out of the dugout I knew we were cooked. Good guy, mediocre manager.
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I was previously just guessing/assuming that this is where your hatred and frustration lies, and low and behold I was right. Let it go. He made the right decision then. You give the ball to your ace in that position. Let it go.
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That is just the beginning of why I don't care for him as a manager. I have said it for years he will never wins a WS. And that the second he is let go we can be taken seriously. Also, when has Harvey ever been the ace of this team? I'll tell you what, I will "let it go" once you stop being a malaka.
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Matt Harvey has a 29-25 record and a 2.88 ERA for his career so far. He has one, ONE complete game, that in 2013. HIs most career wins is 13. He has stuff, no question, but an ace? Evidently in your mind, certainly in his. Me, he is a pitcher who has done some good things and has great potential, but an ace, hardly. As Sirvoo said, Collins decision, lobbied for by Harvey and Met fans who bought into the whole Dark Knight nonsense, was just horrible, no other word for it.
 
before this season, 26-18, which appears much nicer. 2.88 ERA is among the best in the national league for starters in that period. A lot of managing is hunches. The bullpen sucked in the the WS, and Harvey clinched the pennant by going 2 more strong innings than Collins wanted him to.

The anti Harvey stuff is silly. I'd take him any day of the week on my team, and someone is going to pay him $100 million plus if the Mets don't. Watch what his record will become with a good offense behind him.
 
It doesn't matter where the team is in the standings. We should be in the playoffs. That lineup was atrocious yesterday. 5-9 didn't hit above .200 and we managed to win.

But that doesn't change the fact that I think Terry is a hairless nutsack. Was at game 5 last year and he let Harvey and the entire crowd run right over him. As soon as I saw Harvey run out of the dugout I knew we were cooked. Good guy, mediocre manager.
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I was previously just guessing/assuming that this is where your hatred and frustration lies, and low and behold I was right. Let it go. He made the right decision then. You give the ball to your ace in that position. Let it go.
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That is just the beginning of why I don't care for him as a manager. I have said it for years he will never wins a WS. And that the second he is let go we can be taken seriously. Also, when has Harvey ever been the ace of this team? I'll tell you what, I will "let it go" once you stop being a malaka.
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Ela ela ela. Team was out of playoffs for most of the season and then turn it around and make it to the WS. Why not wait till the outcome of this year to dismiss him?
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Hahah fine. The funny thing is I have no clue who would be fit to replace him. I'm sure there's someone out there but I just want this poor old man canned. Will wait till the year is over. Remember Little was the manager of the Red Sox, they had to fire him to get over the hump. I believe Terry was managing Anaheim and they had to fire him in favor of Socia (sp?) to win it all. I think he's done great things but has reached his potential and is a bridge to winning titles.
 
before this season, 26-18, which appears much nicer. 2.88 ERA is among the best in the national league for starters in that period. A lot of managing is hunches. The bullpen sucked in the the WS, and Harvey clinched the pennant by going 2 more strong innings than Collins wanted him to.

The anti Harvey stuff is silly. I'd take him any day of the week on my team, and someone is going to pay him $100 million plus if the Mets don't. Watch what his record will become with a good offense behind him.
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how does his run support rank in the majors ? do they keep that stat ? it's gotta be brutal before this year
 
I hope it doesn't take us falling out of contention for Terry to get fired. Trade some cash to the Angels for Scioscia that guy has needed a change of scenery for 10 years.

My patience has been wearing thin with TC for quite some time. Exhibit A would be tonight's game. Will gladly eat my words if I'm wrong that's the best part about being pessimistic
 
I realize we live in a watered down world but 26 wins in 76 lifetime starts hardly makes one an ace no matter how you spin it. Neither does having a good ERA over 3+ years. And the stuff of aces and legends means if you lobby in the WS to stay in the game you perform, not fall flat on your face.
 
I realize we live in a watered down world but 26 wins in 76 lifetime starts hardly makes one an ace no matter how you spin it. Neither does having a good ERA over 3+ years. And the stuff of aces and legends means if you lobby in the WS to stay in the game you perform, not fall flat on your face.
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How many wins did felix hernandez have in his cy young year? 13?

In an era of 6 innings/105 pitch starts you have to rely on middle relief and a closer. Perfect example is how well pedro pitched for mets in year one only to end up with 25 wins ir so and not the 23 he deserved. 2.88 ERA for a career even 3.5 seasons doesn't lie. He may not be Kershaw but that is still pretty damned good.
 
I realize we live in a watered down world but 26 wins in 76 lifetime starts hardly makes one an ace no matter how you spin it. Neither does having a good ERA over 3+ years. And the stuff of aces and legends means if you lobby in the WS to stay in the game you perform, not fall flat on your face.
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How many wins did felix hernandez have in his cy young year? 13?

In an era of 6 innings/105 pitch starts you have to rely on middle relief and a closer. Perfect example is how well pedro pitched for mets in year one only to end up with 25 wins ir so and not the 23 he deserved. 2.88 ERA for a career even 3.5 seasons doesn't lie. He may not be Kershaw but that is still pretty damned good.
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I never said he wasn't good, in fact I think I said he was good in my post last night; what I said was he wasn't an ACE and he is not. Please read my posts and react to what I WRITE if you want to challenge me. Funny, you have no problem ripping Mullin over his body language that you can interpret from afar but want to argue with FACTS. No pitcher with Harvey's record deserves to be called an ace and given ace treatment and the result in game 5 proves the point. Harvey has proven nothing at the major league level except he has been a good pitcher in a small sample size with legitimate potential to be a dominant pitcher. But he comes with baggage, mainly an ego the size of Alaska before he has done anything of real substance. And I stand by my opinion that the Mets should have traded him because he is NEVER going to resign with them and has that baggage; not because he doesn't have talent.
 
I realize we live in a watered down world but 26 wins in 76 lifetime starts hardly makes one an ace no matter how you spin it. Neither does having a good ERA over 3+ years. And the stuff of aces and legends means if you lobby in the WS to stay in the game you perform, not fall flat on your face.
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How many wins did felix hernandez have in his cy young year? 13?

In an era of 6 innings/105 pitch starts you have to rely on middle relief and a closer. Perfect example is how well pedro pitched for mets in year one only to end up with 25 wins ir so and not the 23 he deserved. 2.88 ERA for a career even 3.5 seasons doesn't lie. He may not be Kershaw but that is still pretty damned good.
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I never said he wasn't good, in fact I think I said he was good in my post last night; what I said was he wasn't an ACE and he is not. Please read my posts and react to what I WRITE if you want to challenge me. Funny, you have no problem ripping Mullin over his body language that you can interpret from afar but want to argue with FACTS. No pitcher with Harvey's record deserves to be called an ace and given ace treatment and the result in game 5 proves the point. Harvey has proven nothing at the major league level except he has been a good pitcher in a small sample size with legitimate potential to be a dominant pitcher. But he comes with baggage, mainly an ego the size of Alaska before he has done anything of real substance. And I stand by my opinion that the Mets should have traded him because he is NEVER going to resign with them and has that baggage; not because he doesn't have talent.
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You are one angry SOB :)

Harvey, by stats would be a number one or 2 on most rotations in baseball. The offensive support the Mets provided up until August of last year (for a very short time), was abysmal. 2.88 ERA over 70+ starts period is excellent to great. The Mets middle relief has been unsteady for a very long time, and even recently Familia hasn't been lights out. Consider that Harvey if he pitches 6 innings is giving up less than 2 runs for his stint for his entire career. On most nights then, he would exit with a lead or tie, and even when he loses, not likely to have gotten shellacked. How is that subjective?

For pitchers with 1000+ innings, Harvey's career ERA of 2.88 would rank second behind Kershaw. Of course Harvey has only pitched about 500 innings in his career. But no doubt 2.88 puts him in the category of MLB elite starting pitchers. Note: A 3.50 career ERA puts you at number 11 in MLB among active pitchers. Once again, the facts make you seem foolish.

This discussion has nothing to do with Mullin, does it? I don't give a crap about body language. I care about how he interacts with his team and coaches during games. Of course when you watch on television from New Jersey, and aren't watching in person for 15+ games you wouldn't know that, would you?
 
If you can only keep 3 of Noah, DeGrom, Matz and Harvey, at this point, who do you keep?
 
If you can only keep 3 of Noah, DeGrom, Matz and Harvey, at this point, who do you keep?
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If I was going to keep 3 it would be the 1st 3. I love Harvey just as much as those guys and I want the guy that wants to pitch the 9th inning with everything on the line but Matz and Thor are so young and have so many years ahead of them and I think deGrom is a perfect complement to those 2.

I'm hoping Harvey tears it up the rest of the year and that we can get max trade value for him and I will be real sorry to see him go but the reality is we can't afford all of them eventually
 
:angry: I can't believe D'NAUD called for a high fastball against Garcia the other night. With the count 0 and 2 and Garcia a fastball hitter I wanted a slider out of the strike zone, especially since Reed has excellent control as evidenced by his pitch belt high. This is not second guessing. He had a pitch to waste, make the batter fish for the pitch. If I am two strikes ahead of the batter I'm in charge.
 
LOL. Lots of our fellow Met fans were calling up WFAN when the Yanks stole Chapman and going nuts about the domestic violence issue. Curious if they will be flooding WFAN now for a guy who actually got arrested for domestic violence and has all kinds of other baggage.
 
I hope it doesn't take us falling out of contention for Terry to get fired. Trade some cash to the Angels for Scioscia that guy has needed a change of scenery for 10 years.

My patience has been wearing thin with TC for quite some time. Exhibit A would be tonight's game. Will gladly eat my words if I'm wrong that's the best part about being pessimistic
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Wally Backman should be the manager of the Mets
 
I hope it doesn't take us falling out of contention for Terry to get fired. Trade some cash to the Angels for Scioscia that guy has needed a change of scenery for 10 years.

My patience has been wearing thin with TC for quite some time. Exhibit A would be tonight's game. Will gladly eat my words if I'm wrong that's the best part about being pessimistic
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Wally Backman should be the manager of the Mets
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I'd settle for Wally Cox.
 
Modern sports, Cespedes runs the anemic Mets out of an inning where they had a runner on third and less than 2 out by trying to take an extra base by not running hard and not sliding and the announcers bail him out by talking about his bad hip and turned ankle. Simple, either don't play but if you do and kudos for that with the condition of the team but then don't take the base if you are too hurt to run or slide.
 
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