Marquette Game

The way Carlino smoked open threes it was a good call to foul him, risking two points to prevent a three that could have tied the game. Good call.

I don't have a problem with the foul but how about putting Stewart or someone else in to give it? Pointer getting his 4th on that play was ridiculous. Also double Carlino off the in-bounds and make someone else shoot the fouls; basic strategy that escapes our staff even after calling two time outs.

Just think of the risk of putting in a bench player to do something like that in the waning seconds (remember how brilliant it seemed to put in Hooper to make FTs to seal a win last season). Anything could happen, like fouling in the act of shooting, or just plain missing the assignment. I understand the concerns about foul 4, but we were down to the last possession or two, and to me it made sense. If Carlino didn't have the ball, someone else would have gotten fouled, and they did it in the frontcourt to burn off a couple of ticks.

To answer those who say Lavin should have put Pointer on Carlino sooner, a couple of things. First, Carlino had a relatively quiet first half, and then lit up very quickly and (very annoyingly) was animated like he just snorted coke, hitting 3 or 4 shots in rapid succession. Putting Pointer on Carlino was calculated , because to risk fouls and create other height mismatches could have backfired, especially if Marquette began to pound the ball inside. In fact Marquette should have adjusted, but didn't - and there is a shelf life to making a move like that. I thought the move was made at the right time because it worked and we won.

Sp we have 6-7 players on a D1 roster and there isn't one with enough intelligence and poise to foul the ball when it gets over half court? Instead we spend two time outs to let Marquette's best shooter go to the line and risk not having a time out in case we can't get the ball inbounds after the foul shots. IMO that is a much more likely scenario than the ones you present as risk. Personally, I don't even think you necessarily needed a time out after Harrison's foul shots - what is a practice for? And what good is it to have a veteran team if we don't even understand that very common end of game situation? Now, I don't have ANY problem with calling the one time out; the second is a problem to me.

Timeout in that situation can work for or against you. It prevents the other team from quickly inbounding the ball, racing upcourt helter skelter, especially if Marquette had a predesigned play for that situation. It also allows you to set your defense and remind guys of roles. I agree with you about burning timeouts, though.
 
Is it heresy to suggest if Dee is not at least 90% fit for Duke, it would be ok to rest him to be at 100 % for Creighton & PC next week, assuming the trainer feels that supposition is correct? Much more important games, considering beating Duke is unlikely.
 
Is it heresy to suggest if Dee is not at least 90% fit for Duke, it would be ok to rest him to be at 100 % for Creighton & PC next week, assuming the trainer feels that supposition is correct? Much more important games, considering beating Duke is unlikely.

It is certainly not, had a similar discussion walking out of the Garden last night. Biggest resistance would likely be from Dee himself, to be expected from a kid with his heart. This is where it's staff's/trainer's job to make decision that is best for Dee and team big picture.

Unless something happens between now and then, sitting him entirely isn't going to happen. While he clearly wasn't himself last night, he played 35 minutes doing some things well - as others have noted he seems to move well laterally but just can't drive off the leg as well. Thankfully it seems to be an injury that can be relatively played through.

But staff/trainers must be decisive in-game on Sunday. Another 35 minute effort from him looking like that coupled with a 15+ point loss is pointless. If we are somehow in it, and he's feeling as good as he did last night or better, maybe you go for it with him.
 
Is it heresy to suggest if Dee is not at least 90% fit for Duke, it would be ok to rest him to be at 100 % for Creighton & PC next week, assuming the trainer feels that supposition is correct? Much more important games, considering beating Duke is unlikely.

It is certainly not, had a similar discussion walking out of the Garden last night. Biggest resistance would likely be from Dee himself, to be expected from a kid with his heart. This is where it's staff's/trainer's job to make decision that is best for Dee and team big picture.

Unless something happens between now and then, sitting him entirely isn't going to happen. While he clearly wasn't himself last night, he played 35 minutes doing some things well - as others have noted he seems to move well laterally but just can't drive off the leg as well. Thankfully it seems to be an injury that can be relatively played through.

But staff/trainers must be decisive in-game on Sunday. Another 35 minute effort from him looking like that coupled with a 15+ point loss is pointless. If we are somehow in it, and he's feeling as good as he did last night or better, maybe you go for it with him.

I thought about it too last night...While in theory it's smart, in actuality we can't sit our best player on network television with every reporter under the sun at the game. I'd rather go down swinging than not put up a fight
 
Let this game go. The kis won an ugly game, they had to win. This following an ugly loss on Sunday.

It is time to dream a little and use last night's win against a team coached by a former dookie, as a sign that the stars will align perfectly for a win against the current dookies.

I would like to think there would be a moratorium on the sniping, bickering, name calling, and Lavin firing posts until Sunday evening.

I mean, for all that is holy in under armor's white, red, blue, and grey uniforms; this is now officially Duke week! Nothing would put smiles on the faces of the kid's, fans, and potential recruits more than a win on Sunday.

Heck, I may just bring out a Winston Churchill quote or two just to jumpstart things.
 
Let this game go. The kis won an ugly game, they had to win. This following an ugly loss on Sunday.

It is time to dream a little and use last night's win against a team coached by a former dookie, as a sign that the stars will align perfectly for a win against the current dookies.

I would like to think there would be a moratorium on the sniping, bickering, name calling, and Lavin firing posts until Sunday evening.

I mean, for all that is holy in under armor's white, red, blue, and grey uniforms; this is now officially Duke week! Nothing would put smiles on the faces of the kid's, fans, and potential recruits more than a win on Sunday.

Heck, I may just bring out a Winston Churchill quote or two just to jumpstart things.

May not be the end, may not even be the beginning of the end?
 
We needed the win and we got it. Time for duke.

IMO I thought we played great to start the game. Everyone was passing and moving with purpose and we got a ton of good looks from out best player which did not go down. Despite that we were able to build a ten point lead. If Dlo was on we could have had an early 20 pt lead.
 
Let this game go. The kis won an ugly game, they had to win. This following an ugly loss on Sunday.

It is time to dream a little and use last night's win against a team coached by a former dookie, as a sign that the stars will align perfectly for a win against the current dookies.

I would like to think there would be a moratorium on the sniping, bickering, name calling, and Lavin firing posts until Sunday evening.

I mean, for all that is holy in under armor's white, red, blue, and grey uniforms; this is now officially Duke week! Nothing would put smiles on the faces of the kid's, fans, and potential recruits more than a win on Sunday.

Heck, I may just bring out a Winston Churchill quote or two just to jumpstart things.

May not be the end, may not even be the beginning of the end?

But it is the end of the beginning.

Fun fact: Winston Churchill's mother was American, and he always possessed an enduring admiration for our country. As far as his relationship with his own mother, he was raised mostly by a nanny, and one of his witticisms about his own mother was that "I loved her from afar."
 
Let this game go. The kis won an ugly game, they had to win. This following an ugly loss on Sunday.

It is time to dream a little and use last night's win against a team coached by a former dookie, as a sign that the stars will align perfectly for a win against the current dookies.

I would like to think there would be a moratorium on the sniping, bickering, name calling, and Lavin firing posts until Sunday evening.

I mean, for all that is holy in under armor's white, red, blue, and grey uniforms; this is now officially Duke week! Nothing would put smiles on the faces of the kid's, fans, and potential recruits more than a win on Sunday.

Heck, I may just bring out a Winston Churchill quote or two just to jumpstart things.

May not be the end, may not even be the beginning of the end?

But it is the end of the beginning.

Fun fact: Winston Churchill's mother was American, and he always possessed an enduring admiration for our country. As far as his relationship with his own mother, he was raised mostly by a nanny, and one of his witticisms about his own mother was that "I loved her from afar."

Beast, do you think Downton Abbey will make NCAA Tourney? :)
 
Let this game go. The kis won an ugly game, they had to win. This following an ugly loss on Sunday.

It is time to dream a little and use last night's win against a team coached by a former dookie, as a sign that the stars will align perfectly for a win against the current dookies.

I would like to think there would be a moratorium on the sniping, bickering, name calling, and Lavin firing posts until Sunday evening.

I mean, for all that is holy in under armor's white, red, blue, and grey uniforms; this is now officially Duke week! Nothing would put smiles on the faces of the kid's, fans, and potential recruits more than a win on Sunday.

Heck, I may just bring out a Winston Churchill quote or two just to jumpstart things.

May not be the end, may not even be the beginning of the end?

But it is the end of the beginning.

Fun fact: Winston Churchill's mother was American, and he always possessed an enduring admiration for our country. As far as his relationship with his own mother, he was raised mostly by a nanny, and one of his witticisms about his own mother was that "I loved her from afar."

Beast, do you think Downton Abbey will make NCAA Tourney? :)

Just trying to educate those who napped during history, or those here old enough to be hiding under their desk during emergency preparation activities in grade school who may have forgotten it.
 
I thought the intentional foul with 11 seconds still left in the game was ridiculous. We were still shooting 1 and 1 so a quick foul by Marquette would have given them the ball back with about 10 seconds left with the possibility of only being down a point and nothing would have been accomplished. Thankfully Greene got a breakaway dunk and was able to run a bit of time off the clock

And in the extreme likelihood that Carlino wiggled free (open three point shooters have been a continual plague in the Big East season so far)?

and in the greater likelihood that Marquette fouled immediately we'd be shooting 1 and 1 with 10 seconds left and defending either a 1, 2 or 3 pt lead so at best we'd be in the same situation and at worst we could lose on a 2 pt basket. I'm not against fouling to prevent a 3 to tie but not with that much time left. Like I said Luckily Greene broke free for a dunk and ran some time off and Carlino ended up taking a 3 anyway
 
I thought the intentional foul with 11 seconds still left in the game was ridiculous. We were still shooting 1 and 1 so a quick foul by Marquette would have given them the ball back with about 10 seconds left with the possibility of only being down a point and nothing would have been accomplished. Thankfully Greene got a breakaway dunk and was able to run a bit of time off the clock

And in the extreme likelihood that Carlino wiggled free (open three point shooters have been a continual plague in the Big East season so far)?

and in the greater likelihood that Marquette fouled immediately we'd be shooting 1 and 1 with 10 seconds left and defending either a 1, 2 or 3 pt lead so at best we'd be in the same situation and at worst we could lose on a 2 pt basket. I'm not against fouling to prevent a 3 to tie but not with that much time left. Like I said Luckily Greene broke free for a dunk and ran some time off and Carlino ended up taking a 3 anyway

Great spacing designed by the staff to get that easy dunk to seal the game.
 
Is it heresy to suggest if Dee is not at least 90% fit for Duke, it would be ok to rest him to be at 100 % for Creighton & PC next week, assuming the trainer feels that supposition is correct? Much more important games, considering beating Duke is unlikely.

I would give him 5-10 mins to see how he feels. Hopefully he hits some early shots. We need a confident D'lo the rest of the season.
 
Is it heresy to suggest if Dee is not at least 90% fit for Duke, it would be ok to rest him to be at 100 % for Creighton & PC next week, assuming the trainer feels that supposition is correct? Much more important games, considering beating Duke is unlikely.

I would give him 5-10 mins to see how he feels. Hopefully he hits some early shots. We need a confident D'lo the rest of the season.

Is it possible dlo was just off. I didn't notice him limping at all and he was doing acrobatic dunks in warmups. He is a streaky player and he's had terrible games in years past. I suspect if he was feeling bad he wouldn't have hoisted up 18 shots
 
Is it heresy to suggest if Dee is not at least 90% fit for Duke, it would be ok to rest him to be at 100 % for Creighton & PC next week, assuming the trainer feels that supposition is correct? Much more important games, considering beating Duke is unlikely.

I would give him 5-10 mins to see how he feels. Hopefully he hits some early shots. We need a confident D'lo the rest of the season.

Is it possible dlo was just off. I didn't notice him limping at all and he was doing acrobatic dunks in warmups. He is a streaky player and he's had terrible games in years past. I suspect if he was feeling bad he wouldn't have hoisted up 18 shots

Daily News said he got the calf taped up at halftime, so he was almost certainly feeling discomfort.
 
Let this game go. The kis won an ugly game, they had to win. This following an ugly loss on Sunday.

It is time to dream a little and use last night's win against a team coached by a former dookie, as a sign that the stars will align perfectly for a win against the current dookies.

I would like to think there would be a moratorium on the sniping, bickering, name calling, and Lavin firing posts until Sunday evening.

I mean, for all that is holy in under armor's white, red, blue, and grey uniforms; this is now officially Duke week! Nothing would put smiles on the faces of the kid's, fans, and potential recruits more than a win on Sunday.

Heck, I may just bring out a Winston Churchill quote or two just to jumpstart things.

May not be the end, may not even be the beginning of the end?

But it is the end of the beginning.

Fun fact: Winston Churchill's mother was American, and he always possessed an enduring admiration for our country. As far as his relationship with his own mother, he was raised mostly by a nanny, and one of his witticisms about his own mother was that "I loved her from afar."

Beast, do you think Downton Abbey will make NCAA Tourney? :)

I like that show a lot. I like it even more after finding out Lady Sybil was one of the people that got caught up in the phone hacking scandal and aside from the pictures there is a video of her. :)
 
Bottom line is we all know DLo's game...he hasnt drove to the hoop at all, thus picking up fouls and going to the line. He settled for jumper after jumper. He is definitely hurt. I would of taken him out earlier and used Branch and Stewart, but we got the win and I'm not going Monday morning QB the game. I hope DLo recovers for Sunday so he can drive right at Okafor and HIM in foul trouble. We dont win without a healthy DLo. Dom, PG4, Jordan, Amar, Branch, and Obekpa looked good. Need everyone focused on Sunday, I think Duke is very overrated and very beatable. We are Sr.s, BEAT DUKE!!!!!
 
Lavin's bench consists of Branch and Alibegovic. Once AA picked up his 4th foul. There really weren't any sub decisions to make.

During our run to an 11-1 record Lav was occasionally utilizing Stewart and JDR. Christian Jones (who some thought may be a fill in for Sampson) apparently has been written off. Then again our wizard could use all three in the Duke game. We are........

You think any of those moves would have resulted in a bigger victory? Better chance that they might have resulted in a loss. We won. I'm satisfied with things just the way they worked out.

Unless we need shear banging down low to stir things up with fouls, I don't really see the Div III skills of Jones or JDR useful. Did anyone notice JDR's 60 seconds in the game last night? In the 1 offensive set he was in for, he crouched down and ran the baseline near the box. Didn't set a pick, didn't get physical whatsoever. I'll agree with everyone else that supports Myles Stewart seeing more PT.
 
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