Marquette Game
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Our guys were so winded at the end I am pretty sure we would have lost in overtime. Knowing when a tired player is going to cost you on defense is part of coaching. D'lo was totally ineffective tonight and he needed rest. He shot 3-18 and I am pretty sure Stewart could have been just as ineffective o defense but I would wager his open 3's may have had a better % outcome. Not sure how much his injury affected his game but the kid needed intervals to cool his jets from some terrible shot selection.
Both Branch and Stewart could have made up those minutes but the wizard knows best.
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There was no way an Irishman was going to lose to two Polish coaches two games in a row.
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oddly enough I still have an appetite but the problem is it hurts so damn much when I swallow. My body aches so much I couldn't even drive to taco bell
Linda Lovelace had the same problem!
Someone didn't understand the plot of Deep Throat.
There was a plot?? I will have to search through my VHS tape library and watch it again! All I remember were the BJs.
redstormhoopsfan
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Had my first Bronx Pale Ale in your honor tonight. They never had it at the stands outside 107 before. Not too shabby!
Feel better man!
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At least he didn't slap the floor once tonight!
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As I said last night "make sure it's not the flu."
Get better.
I don't have a problem with the foul but how about putting Stewart or someone else in to give it? Pointer getting his 4th on that play was ridiculous. Also double Carlino off the in-bounds and make someone else shoot the fouls; basic strategy that escapes our staff even after calling two time outs.
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Just think of the risk of putting in a bench player to do something like that in the waning seconds (remember how brilliant it seemed to put in Hooper to make FTs to seal a win last season). Anything could happen, like fouling in the act of shooting, or just plain missing the assignment. I understand the concerns about foul 4, but we were down to the last possession or two, and to me it made sense. If Carlino didn't have the ball, someone else would have gotten fouled, and they did it in the frontcourt to burn off a couple of ticks.
To answer those who say Lavin should have put Pointer on Carlino sooner, a couple of things. First, Carlino had a relatively quiet first half, and then lit up very quickly and (very annoyingly) was animated like he just snorted coke, hitting 3 or 4 shots in rapid succession. Putting Pointer on Carlino was calculated , because to risk fouls and create other height mismatches could have backfired, especially if Marquette began to pound the ball inside. In fact Marquette should have adjusted, but didn't - and there is a shelf life to making a move like that. I thought the move was made at the right time because it worked and we won.
I thought the intentional foul with 11 seconds still left in the game was ridiculous. We were still shooting 1 and 1 so a quick foul by Marquette would have given them the ball back with about 10 seconds left with the possibility of only being down a point and nothing would have been accomplished. Thankfully Greene got a breakaway dunk and was able to run a bit of time off the clock
Sp we have 6-7 players on a D1 roster and there isn't one with enough intelligence and poise to foul the ball when it gets over half court? Instead we spend two time outs to let Marquette's best shooter go to the line and risk not having a time out in case we can't get the ball inbounds after the foul shots. IMO that is a much more likely scenario than the ones you present as risk. Personally, I don't even think you necessarily needed a time out after Harrison's foul shots - what is a practice for? And what good is it to have a veteran team if we don't even understand that very common end of game situation? Now, I don't have ANY problem with calling the one time out; the second is a problem to me.
In the situation we were in entering the game all you can do is find a way to stop the bleeding. It wasn't pretty but we did that.
We're still two games behind where I thought we should be, but 1/3 of the way through the conference slate the way things have shaken out across the rest of the league even 3-3 would have us a lot stronger. We could have afforded Butler or DePaul, but not both. Opportunities are precious and we've made a habit of wasting them the last two years. At least we didn't do so last night.
D'Angelo is this team's engine, and he's not able to be that right now with his calf. Tremendous job by Pointer stepping up and filling that role, especially in the last 12 minutes. He really changed the game with the lock-up on Carlino and an elevated jack of all trades contribution.
We've got to find a way to get out of the locker room in the 2nd half. Yet another halftime lead that turned into an 8 point deficit at the 13:00 mark, a 19-6 Marquette run taking place in a little over 5 minutes. Great job by the team absorbing the punch last night, but there's only so many times you can do that when you're digging a similar hole almost every game.
Coach shies away from Branch against zones because he's not a good shooter. Too narrow of an approach, especially because we have so few good shooters. When Rysheed and Branch are in against the zone together, they attack the lane lines downhill and get the ball to the baseline on the pass. We had 3-4 easy layups/dunks in the second half and a few more trips to the line off this action. This is the only way we can consistently win against the zone, there's only so many 6-23 from 3 games you can come out on top of.
Thankfully we can just move past this because we won, but the double timeout off our own made free throw is actual insanity. Especially when all you're going to do is let 3 seconds off the clock and foul their best free throw shooter! The debate about that strategy may never end and there are strong arguments on both sides (I happen to agree with fouling as Lavin did), but you simply do not need to see how they set up out of the first timeout and then call another one to execute it. Maybe with 3 seconds left. Maybe with the ball at half court. But with 14 seconds left and ball baseline underneath, there's too much time and too many things that can happen not to save your last timeout. If not to draw up a play when we get the ball back, certainly in case we can't inbound, get trapped, etc. That's just over-coaching.
We're still two games behind where I thought we should be, but 1/3 of the way through the conference slate the way things have shaken out across the rest of the league even 3-3 would have us a lot stronger. We could have afforded Butler or DePaul, but not both. Opportunities are precious and we've made a habit of wasting them the last two years. At least we didn't do so last night.
D'Angelo is this team's engine, and he's not able to be that right now with his calf. Tremendous job by Pointer stepping up and filling that role, especially in the last 12 minutes. He really changed the game with the lock-up on Carlino and an elevated jack of all trades contribution.
We've got to find a way to get out of the locker room in the 2nd half. Yet another halftime lead that turned into an 8 point deficit at the 13:00 mark, a 19-6 Marquette run taking place in a little over 5 minutes. Great job by the team absorbing the punch last night, but there's only so many times you can do that when you're digging a similar hole almost every game.
Coach shies away from Branch against zones because he's not a good shooter. Too narrow of an approach, especially because we have so few good shooters. When Rysheed and Branch are in against the zone together, they attack the lane lines downhill and get the ball to the baseline on the pass. We had 3-4 easy layups/dunks in the second half and a few more trips to the line off this action. This is the only way we can consistently win against the zone, there's only so many 6-23 from 3 games you can come out on top of.
Thankfully we can just move past this because we won, but the double timeout off our own made free throw is actual insanity. Especially when all you're going to do is let 3 seconds off the clock and foul their best free throw shooter! The debate about that strategy may never end and there are strong arguments on both sides (I happen to agree with fouling as Lavin did), but you simply do not need to see how they set up out of the first timeout and then call another one to execute it. Maybe with 3 seconds left. Maybe with the ball at half court. But with 14 seconds left and ball baseline underneath, there's too much time and too many things that can happen not to save your last timeout. If not to draw up a play when we get the ball back, certainly in case we can't inbound, get trapped, etc. That's just over-coaching.
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And in the extreme likelihood that Carlino wiggled free (open three point shooters have been a continual plague in the Big East season so far)?
