Lavin's Future in Doubt at SJU
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we are sju
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If Mullin is bringing Slice with him, I am down. Sign me up for that.
The thing I worry about most concerning Mullin is the fact that he was the best player ever to wear the Redmen Uniform. He is a treasure to our athletic history and when someone thinks of SJU sports the picture of Mullin appears. I would hate to see him hired to coach our team, and see him stumble. It could be catastrophic if for some reason he couldn't get the job done. At some point another change would be needed. What would happen to the relationship he has with the school if he was released? We would not only lose a coach, how does his image survive that? I think that is something that must really be thought about very carefully.
I swear, you guys wanting Lavin to be extended are a bunch of sentimental wimps with the basketball IQs of mountain goats,
He landed that big recruiting class before his 1st season for one reason ONLY. It was an initial "big splash" moment and he lured these guys in with the vision of rebuilding an elite program and everyone thought it was the beginning of the 'sleeping giant" awakening. D'Lo, Dom, Harkless, Sampson and the rest didnt come here based on a vision of mediocrity or even just good. They thought they were going to be part of an elite program a few years in.
No one buys that Lavin is headed toward greatness here anymore! He WILL NOT RECRUIT ELITE LEVEL GUYS EVER AGAIN! And he is not a coach who can win without talent superior to his opponents. We have seen his ceiling, this year is the best you can expect to see with this guy and even this will be only once every 4-5 years.
No way we will be able to tolerate seeing Archie or Bobby go on to greatness at some other program (God forbid another Big East program) while we become the new Depaul of this league all because of some lazy decision to extend a failure.
Time to do the smart thing and get rid of him while the top prospects are available.
He landed that big recruiting class before his 1st season for one reason ONLY. It was an initial "big splash" moment and he lured these guys in with the vision of rebuilding an elite program and everyone thought it was the beginning of the 'sleeping giant" awakening. D'Lo, Dom, Harkless, Sampson and the rest didnt come here based on a vision of mediocrity or even just good. They thought they were going to be part of an elite program a few years in.
No one buys that Lavin is headed toward greatness here anymore! He WILL NOT RECRUIT ELITE LEVEL GUYS EVER AGAIN! And he is not a coach who can win without talent superior to his opponents. We have seen his ceiling, this year is the best you can expect to see with this guy and even this will be only once every 4-5 years.
No way we will be able to tolerate seeing Archie or Bobby go on to greatness at some other program (God forbid another Big East program) while we become the new Depaul of this league all because of some lazy decision to extend a failure.
Time to do the smart thing and get rid of him while the top prospects are available.
redstorm89
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Yes. His recruiting has progressively declined unfortunately.
I was sitting here reading all the posts, and it hit me.
The former St. John's legend is a big man who had a nice short jumper--Billy Paultz.
No need for assistant coaches as he can take advantage of the experts on Redmen.com. We can research/scout the opponents and save Whopper lots of time and SJU money. Besides, who knows the recruiting scene better. :cheer:
The former St. John's legend is a big man who had a nice short jumper--Billy Paultz.
No need for assistant coaches as he can take advantage of the experts on Redmen.com. We can research/scout the opponents and save Whopper lots of time and SJU money. Besides, who knows the recruiting scene better. :cheer:
This, plus the points made by Fun, are why I would not have a problem with the Mullin despite the lack of coaching experience. He has succeeded at everything he's tried in basketball, he has everyone's respect, he will check his ego at the door, and in every important way he IS St Johns basketball.
I would be willing to check my skepticism and bet on Mullin if he wanted to do the job. I trust him to do everything right, including building a staff.
Having said that, if I were making the decision I would go for an established Coach.
beast of the east
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Yea. Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Bob Knight, Mike K, John Calipari, John Wooden, Red Holzman, Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkens, Billy Donovan, Lou C, Jim Boeheim, Rick Pitino and about 10,000 others.
beast of the east
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Mullin has been a very competent executive who helped rebuild the Warriors. HE still has a cocky streak in him, and knows this school inside and out. Very few people in administration would say no to anything he asked for. Imagine the kind of player Harrison could have become with Mullin schooling him. Everyone thought Larry Bird would be a joke in any basketball position besides player. I'd give him the keys in an instant if he wanted them. I guarantee there is still plenty of fire in his belly that would restore this program.
