Kudos Posh

[firestorm]

I know that ive never felt more confident with an sju PG throwing an alleyoop pass in my lifetime. In fact I've never felt confident at all before Posh came around. 

I really liked the commentary last night that declared Wusu our best interior passer.    This team just continues to find guys wide open for alley oop dunks, give and goes, and drive and dish.   

I loved the grant-bootsy-artest era  team for passing the ball, and this type is earning stripes in that regard.

Very apt comparison. It was fun to watch that team move the ball and compete on defense. Seeing some similar traits from this bunch. Onward and upward...

 

[paultzman]

Side bar comment - Moore becoming much more proficient out of post passing to cutters, open guys.

 

[GardenCity62]

A SJU freshman player I think Posh can be compared to is Ron Artest. While completely different physically both are two of the toughest players ever at SJU. A t the end of the game both may end up with a dozen points and yet anybody who watched the game would agree they were the player most responsible for the win.
No one looked forward to going up against Artest and no one is looking forward to going against Posh.

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

Posh is carving out his own Stats and setting up his credentials for his Career . They will be substantial . But , comparing him to Mullin is unfair to both . Mullin was literally the " Straw that stirred the Drink," for all 4 years . He is the best Player , ever , in St John's history . College , NBA , HOF , Olympic , etc .  Posh is very Special , let him flourish as he is doing now . Unfair Comparisons are controversial and don't highlight  the ability of either player .  It's the same as comparing Champaignie and Sealy . They are different . Their skills are their own, and superlative . Malik had explosiveness and handle that Julian doesn't . He was a McD All American and I think maybe a Second team All American his last year here . Julian is on his way to that threshold but , not just yet . 



let me clarify - I was attempting to compare
 FRESHMAN Chris Mullin with
FRESHMAN Posh Alexander
and I think it's a valid way to compare.
we don't have to agree but we do agree on we WERE fortunate to have Chris here
and we
ARE fortunate to
have Posh here

blessings 


thanks Monte for coming to my rescue

 

 

[MakingPlays]

Anybody got that Posh Alexander "And I took that personally" meme, where his head is on Jordan's body?  

I need that, and my photoshop skills are horrible.

 

[Knight]

The only thing I can wish for next year is for Posh to grow 5-6" over the summer.  /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png

 

[MJDinkins]

The only thing I can wish for next year is for Posh to grow 5-6" over the summer.  /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png

I like his current height as I don't believe it's a hindrance.  I think it plays well with him and his bulldog mentality as he's sort of low to the ground.  His style of attacking dribblers and going for steals can make it tough, as we've seen, on ball handlers.  

Not to mention, if he was to grow that much over the summer, then you probably can kiss him goodbye after his sophomore season as he'd likely bolt to the NBA.   

 

[beast of the east]

I know that ive never felt more confident with an sju PG throwing an alleyoop pass in my lifetime. In fact I've never felt confident at all before Posh came around. 

I really liked the commentary last night that declared Wusu our best interior passer.    This team just continues to find guys wide open for alley oop dunks, give and goes, and drive and dish.   

I loved the grant-bootsy-artest era  team for passing the ball, and this type is earning stripes in that regard.

Very apt comparison. It was fun to watch that team move the ball and compete on defense. Seeing some similar traits from this bunch. Onward and upward...

Thank you, and you know that team played that way because their best player, a lottery pick that should have been in blue and orange to start his career, was so damned selfless that he just as easily gave up the ball to an open teammate as draining a 15 foot jumper.   Artest had that quality, and it was contagious.   Right now, Champ and Posh have those qualities and everyone else has also caught on.   Except Moore,  who loves to put exclamation points on a great pass.

 

[bamafan]

A SJU freshman player I think Posh can be compared to is Ron Artest. While completely different physically both are two of the toughest players ever at SJU. A t the end of the game both may end up with a dozen points and yet anybody who watched the game would agree they were the player most responsible for the win.
No one looked forward to going up against Artest and no one is looking forward to going against Posh.


Obviously a matter of opinion but I'm gonna avoid the low hanging fruit and pick Posh over Chris in this just for fun debate as the more important player to the team as a frosh. If memory serves Chris was surrounded by more talent (David Russell, Kevin Williams, Billy Goodwin) as a frosh and the game was not as reliant on his contribution as we are presently with Posh. I said it about one month again that as goes Posh so goes St. John's.  Anyway that's my take and I'm sticking to it.
 

 

[beast of the east]

The only thing I can wish for next year is for Posh to grow 5-6" over the summer.  /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png

I like his current height as I don't believe it's a hindrance.  I think it plays well with him and his bulldog mentality as he's sort of low to the ground.  His style of attacking dribblers and going for steals can make it tough, as we've seen, on ball handlers.  

Not to mention, if he was to grow that much over the summer, then you probably can kiss him goodbye after his sophomore season as he'd likely bolt to the NBA.   

Good call.   The closer to the ground he is, the closer to the ball, the closer to taking it,.   He is very strong as well, so in the paint battling for position he doesn't get tossed around like a rag doll.     Hey, did you see that movie yet?

 

[beast of the east]

A SJU freshman player I think Posh can be compared to is Ron Artest. While completely different physically both are two of the toughest players ever at SJU. A t the end of the game both may end up with a dozen points and yet anybody who watched the game would agree they were the player most responsible for the win.
No one looked forward to going up against Artest and no one is looking forward to going against Posh.


Obviously a matter of opinion but I'm gonna avoid the low hanging fruit and pick Posh over Chris in this just for fun debate as the more important player to the team as a frosh. If memory serves Chris was surrounded by more talent (David Russell, Kevin Williams, Billy Goodwin) as a frosh and the game was not as reliant on his contribution as we are presently with Posh. I said it about one month again that as goes Posh so goes St. John's.  Anyway that's my take and I'm sticking to it.

 

lol.  Happy hour starting early?

 

[bamafan]

A SJU freshman player I think Posh can be compared to is Ron Artest. While completely different physically both are two of the toughest players ever at SJU. A t the end of the game both may end up with a dozen points and yet anybody who watched the game would agree they were the player most responsible for the win.
No one looked forward to going up against Artest and no one is looking forward to going against Posh.


Obviously a matter of opinion but I'm gonna avoid the low hanging fruit and pick Posh over Chris in this just for fun debate as the more important player to the team as a frosh. If memory serves Chris was surrounded by more talent (David Russell, Kevin Williams, Billy Goodwin) as a frosh and the game was not as reliant on his contribution as we are presently with Posh. I said it about one month again that as goes Posh so goes St. John's.  Anyway that's my take and I'm sticking to it.



 

lol.  Happy hour starting early?




You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f'ed up maybe, but i'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, Im here to f'ing amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how?  How am I funny? How the f am I funny, what the f is so funny about me?  Tell me, tell me what's funny?

 

 

[monte]

Mullin was a close-to finished product from the minute he arrived here. 2nd team all Big East as a freshman. To best of my recollection, never had any freshman growing pains. Posh, for as great as he has been, took a little while to adjust to Big East play. This is no knock on Posh, but he wouldn't have even started on that 81' team. Don't think it's close between Mullin and Posh, but that doesn't take anything away from how great Posh has been, and how fortunate we are to have him. The fact that we are even having this discussion, and he is even being compared to the best ball player in our history, speaks volumes about his abilities and what he's accomplished this year. 

 

[monte]

A SJU freshman player I think Posh can be compared to is Ron Artest. While completely different physically both are two of the toughest players ever at SJU. A t the end of the game both may end up with a dozen points and yet anybody who watched the game would agree they were the player most responsible for the win.
No one looked forward to going up against Artest and no one is looking forward to going against Posh.


Obviously a matter of opinion but I'm gonna avoid the low hanging fruit and pick Posh over Chris in this just for fun debate as the more important player to the team as a frosh. If memory serves Chris was surrounded by more talent (David Russell, Kevin Williams, Billy Goodwin) as a frosh and the game was not as reliant on his contribution as we are presently with Posh. I said it about one month again that as goes Posh so goes St. John's.  Anyway that's my take and I'm sticking to it.




 

lol.  Happy hour starting early?




You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f'ed up maybe, but i'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, Im here to f'ing amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how?  How am I funny? How the f am I funny, what the f is so funny about me?  Tell me, tell me what's funny?

Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding. Ya know, there's a lot of people here. 

 

[beast of the east]

A SJU freshman player I think Posh can be compared to is Ron Artest. While completely different physically both are two of the toughest players ever at SJU. A t the end of the game both may end up with a dozen points and yet anybody who watched the game would agree they were the player most responsible for the win.
No one looked forward to going up against Artest and no one is looking forward to going against Posh.


Obviously a matter of opinion but I'm gonna avoid the low hanging fruit and pick Posh over Chris in this just for fun debate as the more important player to the team as a frosh. If memory serves Chris was surrounded by more talent (David Russell, Kevin Williams, Billy Goodwin) as a frosh and the game was not as reliant on his contribution as we are presently with Posh. I said it about one month again that as goes Posh so goes St. John's.  Anyway that's my take and I'm sticking to it.




 

lol.  Happy hour starting early?




You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f'ed up maybe, but i'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, Im here to f'ing amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how?  How am I funny? How the f am I funny, what the f is so funny about me?  Tell me, tell me what's funny?


 

 

[panther2]

Respectfully, it is a silly debate.  Different players.  Different positions.  Different strengths.  Different eras.  Both terrific and important players to their teams.

I understand the feedback...still...
I thought it was worth discussion...of course different players, different positions, different etas 1980s - 2020s
but are these two of our most significant freshman?
In any event - where would we be sans Posh!

 

It is definitely worth the discussion SS&G. I look at it like this, Posh is more important to this team than Chris was to the 1981-82 team. Take Chris off of that team, and you can put Kevin Williams who also played in the NBA as the starting shooting guard. You also have David Russell, Jeff Allen, and Billy Goodwin who all had nice careers overseas. Bill Wennington was a freshman that year with Chris and Ron Stewart. As great as Chris' career turned out, this team would have been good without him.

On the other hand, this year's team would be lost without Posh. As good as Julian is, Posh is the engine than runs this team. Take Posh away and this team is rudderless. So if you are looking at it as far as who has the most impact in their freshman year, I would have to say Posh. David Russell was the team's leading scorer during Chris' freshman year.

Posh has made all of his teammates better with his attitude, composeur, and leadership. Let's not get it twisted, I am not saying that Posh is going to have a Hall of Fame career like Chris, only that his impact on this year's team is greater than Chris' on the 81-82 team.

 

[beast of the east]

Respectfully, it is a silly debate.  Different players.  Different positions.  Different strengths.  Different eras.  Both terrific and important players to their teams.

I understand the feedback...still...
I thought it was worth discussion...of course different players, different positions, different etas 1980s - 2020s
but are these two of our most significant freshman?
In any event - where would we be sans Posh!


 

It is definitely worth the discussion SS&G. I look at it like this, Posh is more important to this team than Chris was to the 1981-82 team. Take Chris off of that team, and you can put Kevin Williams who also played in the NBA as the starting shooting guard. You also have David Russell, Jeff Allen, and Billy Goodwin who all had nice careers overseas. Bill Wennington was a freshman that year with Chris and Ron Stewart. As great as Chris' career turned out, this team would have been good without him.

On the other hand, this year's team would be lost without Posh. As good as Julian is, Posh is the engine than runs this team. Take Posh away and this team is rudderless. So if you are looking at it as far as who has the most impact in their freshman year, I would have to say Posh. David Russell was the team's leading scorer during Chris' freshman year.

Posh has made all of his teammates better with his attitude, composeur, and leadership. Let's not get it twisted, I am not saying that Posh is going to have a Hall of Fame career like Chris, only that his impact on this year's team is greater than Chris' on the 81-82 team.

I agree Panther that it's a great discussion.   I don't agree with your argument at all.   When Chris Mullin stepped on the court for the very first time, he was already the best player we had put on the floor since George Johnson.   Within a few games, he was already better than Johnson.   He made a good team formidable, and comparing Kevin Williams, who incidentally never started for Looie,( but started for the Houston Rockets I believe at least for a bit) as a capable replacement for Chris, is almost absurd.   Chris made SJU a top conference competitor, and watching him play even as a freshman, was poetry in motion.

I could make the argument that I could have a bigger impact on a village in Burundi than Jeff Bezos has had on America, and make the same claim that Posh is more important to this team than Mullin was to his.

I will absolutely agree with you on this.   Right now, we do not know what Posh's ceiling is, because he does things that are really amazing to watch, yet we all believe he has miles of improvement left in him.   He excites fans in ways that no one here has done in a long time - ok Shamorie could light up a crowd, and so could D'Angelo - but Posh is different.    He seemingly has bno right outplaying better known players simply by locking them down and making big plays, but he's done that for a good chunk of the season.

I also noticed this.   I thought he looked tired in the second half last night , which shocked me, unless of course a Xavier player put kryptonite in his socks. 

 

[Delaware]

One thing I noticed last night.  Whenever Freemantle got a rebound, he held the ball high with Posh lurking.  Every game Posh has stolen the ball from a big man bringing the ball down after a rebound.  Freemantle obviously saw in film what Posh likes to do, and I don't believe it occured last night.  Love Freemantle.  Hopefully the rest of the opponents' big men we face haven't caught on!

 

[Section3]

Hard to imagine a more disruptive force in college ball today. So many deer in headlights looks when he he is pestering opponents. Getting into sets is a problem in many instances, not to mention the obvious, generating turnovers. On offense he obviously improved his stroke, but the uncanny one is his work among the trees to generate points. His mental attitude is well documented, so I'll leave that alone.

Give Anderson credit for giving PA time off the bat, being patient with his shooting, decision making early and adding a paternalistic touch to his development. CMA is the ideal coach for this warrior.

I love seeing Posh and Dunn expose the guys who really can't handle the ball...you see it either in their hesitation, their rush to get to rid of the ball or their need to fend them off with an arm bar (needs to be called more)... once we identify the vulnerable ball handlers we need to go after them like a rabid dog every time they get the ball.

 

[Section3]

Side bar comment - Moore becoming much more proficient out of post passing to cutters, open guys.

early on was disappointed with Moore mostly due to shot selection...but he seems to have taken the lessons and really has made great strides...gets a lot of hype for his dunks but much more skilled than just a dunker.

love his enthusiasm and he seems to be very an8mated even when on the bench