Kudos Posh

[SJU85]

Julian has played several games with his two of his fingers taped.  He jammed one or two earlier this year and I remember seeing him do it again during one of the games (I commented on it on another thread).  I hope what evert Posh has, he is able to play with it and doesn't risk further damage.

 

[BrookJersey Redmen]

Prayers for a quick recovery for the heart and soul of our team.

Nice 8 day layoff before the Friar game is a very positive thing for Posh.

 

[lawmanfan]

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[lawmanfan]

1.  You don't do an MRI to diagnose a fracture.  That's what X-rays are for.  If Posh was sent for an MRI then it was to evaluate a sprain versus a tear, most likely of the ulnar collateral ligament. 

2.  Assuming Zach's report is an accurate rendition of what the school told him (and I'm sure it is), the relevant part is not the "no fracture" part, it's that they sent him for an MRI instead of an X-ray.

3.  Absent a copy of the MRI report it's impossible to know what the actual diagnosis is.  However a severe thumb sprain can be disabling for a long time.  A tear would likely be a surgical problem, of course.

Either way unless it was a mild sprain I would not expect to see Posh on the court for some time, especially considering that it's his dominant hand.  However there is no reason to believe that it will be anything other than a short-term issue regardless of whether it's a severe sprain or a tear that would need surgical attention.  He'll be fine for next season, even if we don't see him again this year.  Of course hopefully it's a mild sprain and he's able to get back sooner rather than later -but I'm sure Coach Anderson will take a long-term view of this.

And I hope McGriff gets the minutes - I've liked what I have seen from him in the limited time he gets, and I'd like to see him get more of an opportunity. 

 

[Alumni Hall]

1.  You don't do an MRI to diagnose a fracture.  That's what X-rays are for.  If Posh was sent for an MRI then it was to evaluate a sprain versus a tear, most likely of the ulnar collateral ligament. 
Wrong, MRI's are routinely ordered by MD's to help diagnose subtle micro fractures that do not show up on routine Xray's. Also MRI's are used to look for Volar plate injuries especially in the thumb area which also do not show on plain films. Additionally plain films do not show STRESS FRACTURES in bones at the time of acute injuries as well as MRI's do. Plain films will show calcification of stress injuries weeks and months AFTER. Many times the team physicians bypass routine xrays because an MRI gives them so much more information than a plain set of X-rays. 
MRI's are also used to assist in the diagnosis of  several other bony conditions that do not show up in xrays like condral defects of the joints, bleeding in the bone from severe contusions and others.

2.  Assuming Zach's report is an accurate rendition of what the school told him (and I'm sure it is), the relevant part is not the "no fracture" part, it's that they sent him for an MRI instead of an X-ray.

3.  Absent a copy of the MRI report it's impossible to know what the actual diagnosis is.  However a severe thumb sprain can be disabling for a long time.  A tear would likely be a surgical problem, of course.

Either way unless it was a mild sprain I would not expect to see Posh on the court for some time, especially considering that it's his dominant hand.  However there is no reason to believe that it will be anything other than a short-term issue regardless of whether it's a severe sprain or a tear that would need surgical attention.  He'll be fine for next season, even if we don't see him again this year.  Of course hopefully it's a mild sprain and he's able to get back sooner rather than later -but I'm sure Coach Anderson will take a long-term view of this.

And I hope McGriff gets the minutes - I've liked what I have seen from him in the limited time he gets, and I'd like to see him get more of an opportunity. 

 

[lawmanfan]

1.  You don't do an MRI to diagnose a fracture.  That's what X-rays are for.  If Posh was sent for an MRI then it was to evaluate a sprain versus a tear, most likely of the ulnar collateral ligament.



Wrong, MRI's are routinely ordered by MD's to help diagnose subtle micro fractures that do not show up on routine Xray's. Also MRI's are used to look for Volar plate injuries especially in the thumb area which also do not show on plain films. Additionally plain films do not show STRESS FRACTURES in bones at the time of acute injuries as well as MRI's do. Plain films will show calcification of stress injuries weeks and months AFTER. Many times the team physicians bypass routine xrays because an MRI gives them so much more information than a plain set of X-rays. 
MRI's are also used to assist in the diagnosis of  several other bony conditions that do not show up in xrays like condral defects of the joints, bleeding in the bone from severe contusions and others.
 

True, but that typically does not occur until after an X-ray has been done, is read as negative, and persistent symptoms suggest the need for additional diagnostic tests, no?

 

[Alumni Hall]

In the professional and high level college sports programs now, you get BOTH tests at the same time at the radiology facility to speed up the diagnosis timeframe. Many times the arena will have X-ray or a fluoroscope available for a quick gross fracture eval, and only doing a straight AP /lateral view and they don't use the high resolution digital views that are available in the better radiology centers. And many times the team MD's will order special stress xrays along with MRI scans to assist their diagnosis of the injuries. There are also a myriad of other sports orthopedic reasons to repeat the origional plain xrays with new ones which we don't need to discuss here.

 

[lawmanfan]

In the professional and high level college sports programs now, you get BOTH tests at the same time at the radiology facility to speed up the diagnosis timeframe. Many times the arena will have X-ray or a fluoroscope available for a quick gross fracture eval, and only doing a straight AP /lateral view and they don't use the high resolution digital views that are available in the better radiology centers. And many times the team MD's will order special stress xrays along with MRI scans to assist their diagnosis of the injuries. There are also a myriad of other sports orthopedic reasons to repeat the origional plain xrays with new ones which we don't need to discuss here.
 

AJ, many thanks for sharing your expertise.  Mine involves regular folks - it's clear that medical care for professional and high-level college sports runs at a very different speed!

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

AJ Hidell, Lawman Fan , I want both of you to stand by for immediate assignment to assist Plantiff Counsel vs the Insurance Companies . You both presented a lot of Medical Stuff that the average fan doesn't possess . Kudos to you both . 

 

[paultzman]

Zagoria;

"I think Posh is the [Freshman of the Year] and Defensive Player of the Year, too. He has single-handedly changed the identity of that program. He terrorizes the game on both ends with his relentless effort and intensity. Not even close!"

 

[paultzman]

Zach B on Posh's status;

Nothing yet. Was told yesterday he hadn't practiced since Nova game though. #sjubb

 

[redmannorth]

Zach B on Posh's status;

Nothing yet. Was told yesterday he hadn't practiced since Nova game though. #sjubb

Do we start to cry now or later ?  

 

[bamafan]

Zach B on Posh's status;

Nothing yet. Was told yesterday he hadn't practiced since Nova game though. #sjubb

Do we start to cry now or later ?  




If there's no crying in baseball there certainly is none in basketball. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
 

 

[TonyinFairfield]

Zach B on Posh's status;

Nothing yet. Was told yesterday he hadn't practiced since Nova game though. #sjubb

Do we start to cry now or later ?  




If there's no crying in baseball there certainly is none in basketball. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png

 

Yeah, but this is St. John's. I'd start crying now.  ;-)

 

[paultzman]

Did at least work out some yesterday apparently. Tough injury to heal quickly though.

 

[lawmanfan]

Thumbs take forever to heal.  And in his case it's not only his dominant hand, he is not especially ambidextrous. Is what it is. 

 

[Mullins Revenge]

I dont expect him to play today.  I do think he will try to give it a go for the Big East tournament though.

 

[JohnnyFan]

n/m

 

[Lambsbball]

Next season matters more than today's game. Posh needs to let his thumb and hand heal. Let's not make the injury worse. Off season surgery could be a big setback.

 

[mjmaherjr]

I defintiely would rather him not trying to push it tonight. Let's see if more rest can help him get ready for the BET