Keita Injury

I agree with you about Clark on offense. However, he seems to have his own troubles picking up silly fouls (am I wrong here?). It seems he's always in foul trouble and if he's regularly trying to guard bigger players on the defensive end that might exacerbate the problem. I also think our atrocious perimeter D regularly puts our bigs (I use that term loosely) in difficult spots which also leads to fouling. Maybe we should have just let Owens shoot all the threes he wanted. :)
 
[quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]

They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.
 
Trying to find a positive spin on an unfortunate situation. Think back to the 1999-2000 team and compare it to this year's team, Barkley:ponds; Thornton:Heron; Jesse:Simon; Postell:Figueroa; Glover:Clark. Other than Chudney Grey, the '99-00 team had no bench. We can only hope.
 
[quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302032][quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]

They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]

On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.
 
[quote="Andrew" post=301964]Well it looks like we are going to see a lot more of Trimble and Dixon so everyone should be happy.[/quote]
TRIMBLE is NOT the answer!!!!!!! stop saying trimble he is a liability. you guys are all high if you think he's the answer. His feet are slow and will get eaten up!. Play Roberts, play him now! And I don't want to hear "our luck sucks" blah blah blah.... this is on the STAFF ONCE AGAIN!!!! Not prepared for the inevitable ( fouls, injuries, transfers) from our bigs. This is so disheartening because year after year its not the "Talent" as Mully says, its the lack of preparness by this staff!!!
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]

Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=301969][quote="SJU85" post=301966]
Well with our luck, I figured the black cloud would show up sooner or later.[/quote]

And pretty much every fan who has been around the past 30 years expected this to come. Many on here were saying it including me pleading to recruit more big men. What happens when Keita gets injured?[/quote]

I've said it before but this is the equivalent of recruiting malpractice. Imo, Mullin will never have a tandem of Ponds and Heron ever again or the experience of transfers like Clark and Simon. One of the Eli Wright or David Caraher slots should have been a big man transfer capable of 10 minutes per game. This staff's record of recruiting and retaining players over 6'8 is abominable. Boubacar Diakite's scholarship was an example of wasted opportunities. If the word on the streets is if you are a big, don't go to St. John's then this staff is basically doomed. We are not going anywhere if our biggest man on the court is going to be a 6'7 forward. It's not rocket science. As for having any confidence that Mullin can utilize Josh Roberts in this latest ckusterfck, I'm not optimistic. I've watched 3 star freshmen all over the conference being used to their respective potential yet Mullin appears to see little value in ours thus far. Greg Williams was rated higher than Mac McClung of Georgetown but doesn't see the light of day while McClung was very efficient against Illinois last night.
Patrick Ewing is not using last minute transfers to build his program like his old Big East nemesis.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=302038][quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]

Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]

I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=302038][quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]

Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]

Depends who on the other team is doing the damage. If it is a 6'10 center scoring at will does Mullin try Roberts at 6'10 or put the 6'3 Trimble on him? If your 3 star recruit is that bad then you did a piss poor job of recruiting.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=302035][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302032][quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]

They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]

On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]

This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.
 
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=302040][quote="we are sju" post=302038][quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]

Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]

I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]

Then why does Roberts think he isn't playing? Mullin doesn't like him?
All coaches, even if they are wrong play the guys they think are going to help them win.
They don't play guys, right or wrong because they think other guys are better for whatever reason.
This is a non issue to me.
 
[quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302043][quote="we are sju" post=302035][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302032][quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]

They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]

On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]

This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]

Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.
 
We are sju: L J S A wrote:
Paultzman wrote: Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb

He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.


Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.

I think the point is there is absolutely nothing to be gained by saying that so why say it. You want to build up the freshmen players confidence because we might need them to play earlier than anticipated. Clark is prone to foul trouble and we only go 7 deep now w/o the three freshman.
 
I agree the whole freshmen not playing thing is BS. Just look at what Georgetown's freshmen did on the road yesterday. Not even 5 star freshmen, just 3/4 stars like we've been getting. Keeping freshmen on the bench also works against you recruiting wise.

247 Composite:
James Akinjo- #90
Greg Williams- #156
Mac McClung- #245
Josh Roberts- #271

No excuses. I don't care if Roberts and Williams aren't ready. Put them in for at least a minute or two every other game (especially during garbage time). This is now year 4 of not having a contingency plan when things go wrong (which they always do). Best thing we can do now is utilize everyone we have so we're prepared for the future.
 
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Per Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if he regretted not having more depth in size, and said he's happy with what he has. Doesn't look back with regret. #sjubb
 
I never said that Trimble is the answer to replacing Keita. I am not enamored with him as well. I was saying that both Trimble and Dixon should be expected to see more playing time which is a fact irrespective of how much Mullin plays Roberts. I personally would like to see Williams and Roberts and the Football player get a chance but it does depend on the game situations. We will see soon.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=302010]Kid transfers, practices the entire year and then gets hurt in the 2nd game he is eligible to play.

After playing just a few minutes.

Really can't make this up.[/quote]

It would be almost laughable if it wasn't so sad and almost predictable.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=302051]Per Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if he regretted not having more depth in size, and said he's happy with what he has. Doesn't look back with regret. #sjubb[/quote]

At least a reporter finally took him to task on this.
 
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