However talented Ponds, Heron, Clark, Simon & Figgy are, we are not going to win w/o contributions from Trimble, Dixon and one or two of the frosh from time to time, so suggest we concentrate on their strengths. Dixon showed offensive skills in first game and Trimble played very solid d last game and showed last year he can get hot and hit open threes from time to time - we will need them both. Hopefully Williams and Roberts can shine a bit in spots if given the chance.
Keita Injury
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[quote="Paultzman" post=302051]Per Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if he regretted not having more depth in size, and said he's happy with what he has. Doesn't look back with regret. #sjubb[/quote]
This is a fine answer, as I wouldn't want him to admit regret a week into a promising season, but I doubt he's being honest. Getting multiple sit outs when we had a big need (literally) wasn't a smart move. Everyone else saw this coming.
Asked Chris Mullin if he regretted not having more depth in size, and said he's happy with what he has. Doesn't look back with regret. #sjubb[/quote]
This is a fine answer, as I wouldn't want him to admit regret a week into a promising season, but I doubt he's being honest. Getting multiple sit outs when we had a big need (literally) wasn't a smart move. Everyone else saw this coming.
At least two of the freshman are gong to have to see some playing time against Cal. I know that the “iron 7” are 19-22 year old kids, but I’m concerned about their playing legs for the game against Temple (or VCU) the following night. Three games in five nights is a lot, even for young athletes.
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Well, if this is just a torn meniscus he can make a full recovery with no lingering after effects and come back full strength, just in time for the Big East season.
Suddenly a weaker OOC schedule doesn't sound so horrible, and our bench becomes a little bit shorter. I think the overall talent of this roster can withstand his loss during OOC, but will need him for the Big East season to at least contribute meaningful minutes.
Suddenly a weaker OOC schedule doesn't sound so horrible, and our bench becomes a little bit shorter. I think the overall talent of this roster can withstand his loss during OOC, but will need him for the Big East season to at least contribute meaningful minutes.
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[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=302040][quote="we are sju" post=302038][quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]
I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]
Mullin doesn't appear to bond to his big men in the slightest. He has had no inside game strategy for any of those players over the past 3 years. He preaches shooting the 3 ball. Sima, Owens, Yakwe and now Roberts who Mullin publicly undressed shows that disconnect. WHO, as a 6'10 player, is better in the Big role on this team without Keita? Is Mullin basically surrendering the middle for the sake of having a 6'3 guard who weighs more in the game?
In the end it may not matter any more after the Keita injury. Sure, we may win 20 games but we will be too small to compensate in the games that may really matter. The desperation recruiting of transfers, thanks only to the tenacity of Matt, will be the legacy of Mullin's recruiting abilities and weaknesses. We are paying the price for that California state of mind on the part of Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin. That everyone saw this coming is too late for Cragg to resolve for this season. I'm sure his wheels are spinning as to how to change things, one way or another.
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]
I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]
Mullin doesn't appear to bond to his big men in the slightest. He has had no inside game strategy for any of those players over the past 3 years. He preaches shooting the 3 ball. Sima, Owens, Yakwe and now Roberts who Mullin publicly undressed shows that disconnect. WHO, as a 6'10 player, is better in the Big role on this team without Keita? Is Mullin basically surrendering the middle for the sake of having a 6'3 guard who weighs more in the game?
In the end it may not matter any more after the Keita injury. Sure, we may win 20 games but we will be too small to compensate in the games that may really matter. The desperation recruiting of transfers, thanks only to the tenacity of Matt, will be the legacy of Mullin's recruiting abilities and weaknesses. We are paying the price for that California state of mind on the part of Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin. That everyone saw this coming is too late for Cragg to resolve for this season. I'm sure his wheels are spinning as to how to change things, one way or another.
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[quote="we are sju" post=302045][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302043][quote="we are sju" post=302035][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302032][quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]
They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]
On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]
This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]
Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.[/quote]
So you think Marvin Clark is as good as some of the greatest to ever play the game? Great argument.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]
They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]
On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]
This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]
Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.[/quote]
So you think Marvin Clark is as good as some of the greatest to ever play the game? Great argument.
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[quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302063][quote="we are sju" post=302045][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302043][quote="we are sju" post=302035][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302032][quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]
They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]
On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]
This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]
Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.[/quote]
So you think Marvin Clark is as good as some of the greatest to ever play the game? Great argument.[/quote]
Not to mention but all those great players were known for their tenacious inside game. Marvin is known for his 3 point shooting. Obviously his strength is now our weakness without Keita.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]
They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]
On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]
This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]
Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.[/quote]
So you think Marvin Clark is as good as some of the greatest to ever play the game? Great argument.[/quote]
Not to mention but all those great players were known for their tenacious inside game. Marvin is known for his 3 point shooting. Obviously his strength is now our weakness without Keita.
[quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
There might better players ahead of him but there are none at his position. That’s the point. You can’t play Trimble at center . Roberts needs to get extended minutes and if nothing else they will be valuable minutes and then when Keita comes back for the conference schedule maybe we can actually go two deep at the 5 position and Roberts will actually help us in conference.
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
There might better players ahead of him but there are none at his position. That’s the point. You can’t play Trimble at center . Roberts needs to get extended minutes and if nothing else they will be valuable minutes and then when Keita comes back for the conference schedule maybe we can actually go two deep at the 5 position and Roberts will actually help us in conference.
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Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]
I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]
Mullin doesn't appear to bond to his big men in the slightest. He has had no inside game strategy for any of those players over the past 3 years. [/quote]
Funny comment. I used to think that Lavin effing hated Obekpa, and the feeling appeared to be mutual, especially given the suspension for pot, refusal to go into a game, cheap shot vs Pitt (?). Now you read their exchanges on social media and it's clear that they really really love each other. Who did you want to post last year? Owens, whose footwork in the pain with the ball in his hands looked like a white guy trying to dance with the Temptations. When we get a post player, let's have that discussion.
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]
I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]
Mullin doesn't appear to bond to his big men in the slightest. He has had no inside game strategy for any of those players over the past 3 years. [/quote]
Funny comment. I used to think that Lavin effing hated Obekpa, and the feeling appeared to be mutual, especially given the suspension for pot, refusal to go into a game, cheap shot vs Pitt (?). Now you read their exchanges on social media and it's clear that they really really love each other. Who did you want to post last year? Owens, whose footwork in the pain with the ball in his hands looked like a white guy trying to dance with the Temptations. When we get a post player, let's have that discussion.
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=302067][quote="Class of 72" post=302062][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=302040][quote="we are sju" post=302038][quote="L J S A" post=302037][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]
I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]
Mullin doesn't appear to bond to his big men in the slightest. He has had no inside game strategy for any of those players over the past 3 years. [/quote]
Funny comment. I used to think that Lavin effing hated Obekpa, and the feeling appeared to be mutual, especially given the suspension for pot, refusal to go into a game, cheap shot vs Pitt (?). Now you read their exchanges on social media and it's clear that they really really love each other. Who did you want to post last year? Owens, whose footwork in the pain with the ball in his hands looked like a white guy trying to dance with the Temptations. When we get a post player, let's have that discussion.[/quote]
Lavin had a good relationship with all his players but used too love when needed. Obekpa, like Owens, had excellent timing on defense which made them good shot blockers. We obviously haven't had a natural 5 in a while as they are not easy to come by. Owens could have been used more effectively last year if he and Clark did more switching but Mullin chose to use Clark as a long range bomber and most of the offense to Ponds. Not exactly a coordinated offensive strategy. I'm not losing sleep over not having a center. I would have been satisfied with a decent power forward with size but hopefully Heron and Figueroa make up for it.
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]
He's not wrong for thinking this, but he's a complete idiot for saying it out loud.[/quote]
Why? Isn't it assumed that any coach plays the best guys.[/quote]
I think the question is should he have "slighted" Roberts by saying that out loud. This seems to be CM's recent approach - see also his multiple jabs at the talent on prior rosters at media day, etc. He is used to being around grown men and not worrying about hurting their feelings. He does not feel the need to coddle these kids emotionally. No idea if that's better approach or not.[/quote]
Mullin doesn't appear to bond to his big men in the slightest. He has had no inside game strategy for any of those players over the past 3 years. [/quote]
Funny comment. I used to think that Lavin effing hated Obekpa, and the feeling appeared to be mutual, especially given the suspension for pot, refusal to go into a game, cheap shot vs Pitt (?). Now you read their exchanges on social media and it's clear that they really really love each other. Who did you want to post last year? Owens, whose footwork in the pain with the ball in his hands looked like a white guy trying to dance with the Temptations. When we get a post player, let's have that discussion.[/quote]
Lavin had a good relationship with all his players but used too love when needed. Obekpa, like Owens, had excellent timing on defense which made them good shot blockers. We obviously haven't had a natural 5 in a while as they are not easy to come by. Owens could have been used more effectively last year if he and Clark did more switching but Mullin chose to use Clark as a long range bomber and most of the offense to Ponds. Not exactly a coordinated offensive strategy. I'm not losing sleep over not having a center. I would have been satisfied with a decent power forward with size but hopefully Heron and Figueroa make up for it.
That’s the problem. We have been awful at attracting bigs. That said, Heron’s eligibility was a godsend. Fortunately we have great wings w strength,and long wingspans and Ponds is an excellent rebounder for his size. Mullin would rather play Figgy at center than Roberts. The combination of Figgy, Heron, Simon and Clark helps w lack of size. Trimble will see more burn because he is strong and has exp. That’s not to say we didn’t need 1 more quality big, We are going to have to group rebound for us to be successful . Maybe Marillac has a point and Simon can play the 4 like Dom.
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[quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302063][quote="we are sju" post=302045][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302043][quote="we are sju" post=302035][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=302032][quote="we are sju" post=302028]Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]
They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]
On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]
This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]
Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.[/quote]
So you think Marvin Clark is as good as some of the greatest to ever play the game? Great argument.[/quote]
Just guys who popped into my head by I am sure Jerome and Kenneth's family and friends totally appreciate you overestimating their ability.
How about Ty Grant, Lamont Middleton, Anthony Glover and Billy Singleton?
Or are they some of the greatest ever?
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.[/quote]
They are going to play zone against us and let us launch 3 pointer after 3 pointer while their bigs stay out of foul trouble and destroy us on the glass.[/quote]
On defensive end it is just positioning and desire. Clark should be able to get 6 or 7 boards and hold his own.[/quote]
This is completely false. If you put someone that is 4-5 inches shorter in front of me I will rebound over them all day without fouling. Will they get some from positioning and luck, sure, but it is not a good strategy. Play the taller guy (Roberts) who may be a liability on offense (who cares, we have enough fire power) and if nothing else keep Clark fresh for the offensive end.[/quote]
Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Charles Barkley, Jerome Lane, Dennis Rodman and Kenneth Faried just to name some strongly disagree.[/quote]
So you think Marvin Clark is as good as some of the greatest to ever play the game? Great argument.[/quote]
Just guys who popped into my head by I am sure Jerome and Kenneth's family and friends totally appreciate you overestimating their ability.
How about Ty Grant, Lamont Middleton, Anthony Glover and Billy Singleton?
Or are they some of the greatest ever?
Oh well, I got all my anger out months ago. This problem has been painfully obvious for a long time and if it wasn't an injury it was going to be fouls. CM is one of favorite players of all time, but he is one super-stubborn coach.
Feel sorry for Clark. Given his style of play, I am sure he didn't want to spend his senior year pushing and leaning on some 6'10" monsters in the paint. As for Roberts, it was a small sample but he did not look ready to contribute in any meaningful way.
I sported the "Where's the Beef?" avatar from April through August this year and last. I have nothing more to say except Chris Mullin owns absolutely everything that happens this year. #noexcuses
Feel sorry for Clark. Given his style of play, I am sure he didn't want to spend his senior year pushing and leaning on some 6'10" monsters in the paint. As for Roberts, it was a small sample but he did not look ready to contribute in any meaningful way.
I sported the "Where's the Beef?" avatar from April through August this year and last. I have nothing more to say except Chris Mullin owns absolutely everything that happens this year. #noexcuses
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[quote="Adam" post=302058][quote="Paultzman" post=302051]Per Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if he regretted not having more depth in size, and said he's happy with what he has. Doesn't look back with regret. #sjubb[/quote]
This is a fine answer, as I wouldn't want him to admit regret a week into a promising season, but I doubt he's being honest. Getting multiple sit outs when we had a big need (literally) wasn't a smart move. Everyone else saw this coming.[/quote]
On the flip side, if he is being absolutely truthful, he'll never have any sustained success here because he'll always be too happy with what he has, regardless of what he has. Hope he's lying through his teeth.
Asked Chris Mullin if he regretted not having more depth in size, and said he's happy with what he has. Doesn't look back with regret. #sjubb[/quote]
This is a fine answer, as I wouldn't want him to admit regret a week into a promising season, but I doubt he's being honest. Getting multiple sit outs when we had a big need (literally) wasn't a smart move. Everyone else saw this coming.[/quote]
On the flip side, if he is being absolutely truthful, he'll never have any sustained success here because he'll always be too happy with what he has, regardless of what he has. Hope he's lying through his teeth.
Rhetorical question, but what big man with NBA ambitions wants to go to school that has a zero track record at developing big men ... and whose most recent big man transferred out? If we can't get a "big" AC, then at least make a move to get Sister Jean to come here from Loyola Chicago because we're gonna need God's help to get one here.
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If you take the day off from reading the boards, you are liable to see all hell break loose by nighttime. I see the Keita thread at 14 pages, and I know it's bad news. I expected to see Keita "out for the season", so at least his docs expect him back. Meanwhile, this may be a real deal breaker for our dance prospects. I know some posters believe that our quickness and athleticism and wingspan at the 3, with Figgy and Simon, will make it a level playing field, and even create mismatches in our favor. Well, that's not the case. Which is why the coaches that can recruit don't recruit a roster of 6'5 high jumpers. Clark is going to have to play soft D or rack up fouls. We are going to have to go zone, and not a good one either. We are looking at having a 6'6" center and a 6'5" PF for long stretches of the game. In other words, we are St. John's, and we are also screwed. As for a 6 week return, OK, I will buy in. As for when he gets his wind and timing back, maybe next season.
[quote="Class of 72" post=302039][quote="Paul Massell" post=301969][quote="SJU85" post=301966]
Well with our luck, I figured the black cloud would show up sooner or later.[/quote]
And pretty much every fan who has been around the past 30 years expected this to come. Many on here were saying it including me pleading to recruit more big men. What happens when Keita gets injured?[/quote]
I've said it before but this is the equivalent of recruiting malpractice. Imo, Mullin will never have a tandem of Ponds and Heron ever again or the experience of transfers like Clark and Simon. One of the Eli Wright or David Caraher slots should have been a big man transfer capable of 10 minutes per game. This staff's record of recruiting and retaining players over 6'8 is abominable. Boubacar Diakite's scholarship was an example of wasted opportunities. If the word on the streets is if you are a big, don't go to St. John's then this staff is basically doomed. We are not going anywhere if our biggest man on the court is going to be a 6'7 forward. It's not rocket science. As for having any confidence that Mullin can utilize Josh Roberts in this latest ckusterfck, I'm not optimistic. I've watched 3 star freshmen all over the conference being used to their respective potential yet Mullin appears to see little value in ours thus far. Greg Williams was rated higher than Mac McClung of Georgetown but doesn't see the light of day while McClung was very efficient against Illinois last night.
Patrick Ewing is not using last minute transfers to build his program like his old Big East nemesis.[/quote]
Very impressed with GT last night. They had good freshmen last year and this class is even better
Well with our luck, I figured the black cloud would show up sooner or later.[/quote]
And pretty much every fan who has been around the past 30 years expected this to come. Many on here were saying it including me pleading to recruit more big men. What happens when Keita gets injured?[/quote]
I've said it before but this is the equivalent of recruiting malpractice. Imo, Mullin will never have a tandem of Ponds and Heron ever again or the experience of transfers like Clark and Simon. One of the Eli Wright or David Caraher slots should have been a big man transfer capable of 10 minutes per game. This staff's record of recruiting and retaining players over 6'8 is abominable. Boubacar Diakite's scholarship was an example of wasted opportunities. If the word on the streets is if you are a big, don't go to St. John's then this staff is basically doomed. We are not going anywhere if our biggest man on the court is going to be a 6'7 forward. It's not rocket science. As for having any confidence that Mullin can utilize Josh Roberts in this latest ckusterfck, I'm not optimistic. I've watched 3 star freshmen all over the conference being used to their respective potential yet Mullin appears to see little value in ours thus far. Greg Williams was rated higher than Mac McClung of Georgetown but doesn't see the light of day while McClung was very efficient against Illinois last night.
Patrick Ewing is not using last minute transfers to build his program like his old Big East nemesis.[/quote]
Very impressed with GT last night. They had good freshmen last year and this class is even better
Understanding that he was somewhat of a longer term project I was still hopeful that Josh Roberts was going to get some time this season. I wasn't expecting much, but perhaps six or seven minutes a game to help spell Keita and to give us some more fouls to play with on the interior. It does not appear that from the coach's evaluation that he is ready for that quite yet.
With a few low majors on the schedule over the next six weeks (Maryland Eastern Shore, Mount St. Mary's, Wagner, St. Francis and Sacred Heart) perhaps he can get on the floor a bit to see if he has anything to contribute this season and beyond. If not, then I am unclear what the long range plan is for him. I realize Roberts is still very raw and far down the depth chart in terms of game readiness but with Keita out for six weeks or so getting him on the floor for a few minutes against weaker competition can only help with his long term development.
With a few low majors on the schedule over the next six weeks (Maryland Eastern Shore, Mount St. Mary's, Wagner, St. Francis and Sacred Heart) perhaps he can get on the floor a bit to see if he has anything to contribute this season and beyond. If not, then I am unclear what the long range plan is for him. I realize Roberts is still very raw and far down the depth chart in terms of game readiness but with Keita out for six weeks or so getting him on the floor for a few minutes against weaker competition can only help with his long term development.
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[quote="ghostzapper" post=302092]Understanding that he was somewhat of a longer term project I was still hopeful that Josh Roberts was going to get some time this season. I wasn't expecting much, but perhaps six or seven minutes a game to help spell Keita and to give us some more fouls to play with on the interior. It does not appear that from the coach's evaluation that he is ready for that quite yet.
With a few low majors on the schedule over the next six weeks (Maryland Eastern Shore, Mount St. Mary's, Wagner, St. Francis and Sacred Heart) perhaps he can get on the floor a bit to see if he has anything to contribute this season and beyond. If not, then I am unclear what the long range plan is for him. I realize Roberts is still very raw and far down the depth chart in terms of game readiness but with Keita out for six weeks or so getting him on the floor for a few minutes against weaker competition can only help with his long term development.[/quote]
Long term development, big men and Chris Mullin will never happen.
With a few low majors on the schedule over the next six weeks (Maryland Eastern Shore, Mount St. Mary's, Wagner, St. Francis and Sacred Heart) perhaps he can get on the floor a bit to see if he has anything to contribute this season and beyond. If not, then I am unclear what the long range plan is for him. I realize Roberts is still very raw and far down the depth chart in terms of game readiness but with Keita out for six weeks or so getting him on the floor for a few minutes against weaker competition can only help with his long term development.[/quote]
Long term development, big men and Chris Mullin will never happen.