Keita Injury

[quote="sjc88" post=301985]Tough break for Sedee Keita. I can't say I am surprised as most of us realized we needed more big men two years ago. Like the little league team the sticks the weakest kid in RF the ball almost always finds them. No excuses from staff as this was always a possibility. I'll hope we see our way through and Keita is ready around January 15. What else can we do.[/quote]

See common misconception. Most kids are righty. If facing a decent thrower kids generally don't pull. Usually put my better fielder in Right and weakest in Left. By same token you always put best fielder at short but over the course of a game the 2nd baseman gets more balls.
Learned this coaching 10 year old travel baseball this past year::)
Now back to the unnecessary worry over Keita.
 
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Our roster management has already gotten us snakebit. We can’t afford to lose these games with our weak schedule. Don’t tell me we couldn’t have gotten another serviceable big over past few recruiting seasons..
 
[quote="Chris7" post=302001][quote="Moose" post=301989][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

:silly: :woohoo:[/quote]

Comical! Who needs size, when we can throw another guard out there and chuck up 3's! Just the way the staff likes to do it.[/quote]

Fair to get on Mullin the recruiter for not recruiting ANY DECENT BIGS.
As for Mullin the coach, I am for playing the best players. Why play Roberts just because he is tall?
 
Kid transfers, practices the entire year and then gets hurt in the 2nd game he is eligible to play.

After playing just a few minutes.

Really can't make this up.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=302007][quote="Chris7" post=302001][quote="Moose" post=301989][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

:silly: :woohoo:[/quote]

Comical! Who needs size, when we can throw another guard out there and chuck up 3's! Just the way the staff likes to do it.[/quote]

Fair to get on Mullin the recruiter for not recruiting ANY DECENT BIGS.
As for Mullin the coach, I am for playing the best players. Why play Roberts just because he is tall?[/quote].

Because we have to defend tall people. This is basketball and most teams have several guys 6’9+.
 
If we shot 3 pointers at 45% then I don’t care how small we play.
 
For anyone to think losing our only guy 6'8" or taller is a non-issue, I disagree. That's why I and many other harped on the atrocious big man recruiting and retention the past few seasons. It matters. And, we will see over the course of the next 4-6 weeks or longer that it matters. But, we have to go with the cards we're dealt, so let's hope for the best. But let's not kid ourselves that this is not impactful in a negative way. As Marcus said, this is basketball, and size matters.
 
See common misconception. Most kids are righty. If facing a decent thrower kids generally don't pull. Usually put my better fielder in Right and weakest in Left. By same token you always put best fielder at short but over the course of a game the 2nd baseman gets more balls.
Learned this coaching 10 year old travel baseball this past year::)
Now back to the unnecessary worry over Keita.[/quote]
Most kids I had on the team had trouble blowing their nose. I didn't worry about things like that, did I tell you I had a left-handed catcher. Try finding a catchers mitt for that, but I digress. Lack of big men was a troublesome verse Bowling Green so I'll stay a little worried.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=301985]Tough break for Sedee Keita. I can't say I am surprised as most of us realized we needed more big men two years ago. Like the little league team the sticks the weakest kid in RF the ball almost always finds them. No excuses from staff as this was always a possibility. I'll hope we see our way through and Keita is ready around January 15. What else can we do.[/quote]

Sorry, but I'm calling it like how it is, you gotta be a freaking idiot to go with one reliable big man for the whole season, and pray that he doesn't get hurt. Any loss before BE play on Dec 29th and the ooc part is a bust.
Last year 2ooc losses with a harder ooc schedule and no bench in December. This year, easy ooc schedule and a bench. This bs is on Chris and staff, freaking makes me sick.
 
It sounds like he had a lingering issue. Did they just clean out the knee?
 
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[quote="MCNPA" post=302011][quote="we are sju" post=302007][quote="Chris7" post=302001][quote="Moose" post=301989][quote="Paultzman" post=301977]Zach B
Asked Chris Mullin if this means a bigger role for Josh Roberts and was noncommittal, depends on how game goes. Said he hasn’t played much because there are better players ahead of him. #sjubb[/quote]

:silly: :woohoo:[/quote]

Comical! Who needs size, when we can throw another guard out there and chuck up 3's! Just the way the staff likes to do it.[/quote]

Fair to get on Mullin the recruiter for not recruiting ANY DECENT BIGS.
As for Mullin the coach, I am for playing the best players. Why play Roberts just because he is tall?[/quote].

Because we have to defend tall people. This is basketball and most teams have several guys 6’9+.[/quote]

So just any random tall guy? Or do you want skilled tall guys? Yes Mullin and staff ( excuse me while I dodge the lightening bolts for implicating Matt did a bad job recruiting bigs). But what is done is done and I don't think we should play a guy who is not ready and or able to play just because he is tall.
 
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Redmanwest wrote: For anyone to think losing our only guy 6'8" or taller is a non-issue, I disagree. That's why I and many other harped on the atrocious big man recruiting and retention the past few seasons. It matters. And, we will see over the course of the next 4-6 weeks or longer that it matters. But, we have to go with the cards we're dealt, so let's hope for the best. But let's not kid ourselves that this is not impactful in a negative way. As Marcus said, this is basketball, and size matters.

+1 RMW, I couldn't agree more. Despite all the references to position less basketball and success of small ball, the instances of college teams being very successful w/o at least one good big man playing significant minutes are very few and far between. Hopefully, Keita really will be back in 6 weeks max which would be in time for start of BE season. In the interim, we are going to miss him and Friday's game is one I think we will miss him more than many others. Hopefully the guys will band together and get us through it. I do think if we can get by Rutgers, we will not miss him as much against Cal & Temple. Seems to me we have no choice but to give Roberts some minutes, which as others have said will only help in the long run.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=302015]See common misconception. Most kids are righty. If facing a decent thrower kids generally don't pull. Usually put my better fielder in Right and weakest in Left. By same token you always put best fielder at short but over the course of a game the 2nd baseman gets more balls.
Learned this coaching 10 year old travel baseball this past year::)
Now back to the unnecessary worry over Keita.[/quote]
Most kids I had on the team had trouble blowing their nose. I didn't worry about things like that, did I tell you I had a left-handed catcher. Try finding a catchers mitt for that, but I digress. Lack of big men was a troublesome verse Bowling Green so I'll stay a little worried.[/quote]

LOL
We played against lefty catcher and I kept stubbornly sending guys that were on 2nd and he kept throwing them out.
 
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Feel bad for Keita, hope his rehab is successful. Now it's next man up time. I can't argue with those who correctly point to our lack of size as a recruiting deficiency that falls on the head coach, and we haven't seen much from Keita yet, but this starting line-up appears to be our most productive, and if they can share the ball and stop resorting to the one on one half court play that nearly sank us against Bowling Green, we should eke out a tough one at the RAC. It isn't basketball season in Utopia until the first bit of adversity hits the program.
 
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=301974][quote="Marillac" post=301971]Huge opportunity for Roberts to get focused coaching and preparation most freshmen bigs never do. The silver lining is this could make us a better team in February and March if Roberts steps up.

Marillac also might get Simon at PF![/quote]

Seems unlikely to me that we're suddenly going to see Roberts playing big minutes. Otherwise he would have played in the Bowling Green game. Even against Rutgers' very tall front line (and other upcoming opponents with size), I would expect CM to opt for smaller lineups. Will be hard for us to defend, but key is making it equally hard for their bigs to defend us so that they have to go small.[/quote]

Big minutes is clearly not in the cards. 5-6 minutes a game would be huge for his development though and potentially very good for us later in the year if he responds well and Keita comes back healthy.
 
Here is what should happen.
Marvin Clark is the same height as Ty Grant was. And though Grant was a terrific low post player Clark is solidly built and a ten times better athlete than Grant was. Clark needs to use his body and quickness and get himself 6 and a half boards a game and take any bigs that are guarding him outside to guard him on offense. I think this is something Clark can do and honestly something that needs to be done.
 
4 to 6 weeks puts him back before conference play. Around Christmas. But I can see the the OOC downward spiral and all the excuses coming as why we are losing OOC games. We are playing without our starting center, this is a big loss for us, the guys we have to play more minutes now are young and inexperienced, Ponds is still banged up, etc. it gets very old after a while. Roberts has to get extended minutes now and let’s just hope things don’t spiral out of control like last season. This is on the staff for only having one big man in the rotation and not recruiting properly. Hopefully Keita is back for Seton Hall. Anyone who thinks not having him against a big team like Rutgers is no big deal is kidding themselves.
 
I think what happens at ST John's is you try to recruit best players you can and sometimes position balance suffers. Happened at end with Lavin as well. Didn't Pointer start at Center in NCAA tourney?
It seems we chase the best players we can. When we don't get them we always seem to be scrambling to complete a roster. Even more complicated now with us using the transfer so predominantly.
 
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