Good Luck, Shamorie...

Programs and players imo are better served with a prohibition on use of social media, especially Twitter, during the season as some teams do. Lavin to his credit did so for a while, but relented in his last year I believe.

Secondly many programs give the players ongoing training on communication with the media to better respond to reporters questions. As noted by several posters, a few times this year after tough losses, a few guys responded to the press in manner that was cringe worthy. The “we just didn’t bring it tonight” type responses only stoke the press fire. Training could at very least lessen the problem and fanning the flames by some reporters. Perhaps SJU does provide the guidance. The Big East in their freshmen orientation does provide a bit, but very specific team approach with more detail may help.
 
Does he make the league? Whatcha think? In two or three years does he have a contract in the NBA?

Super crafty player, with really nice touch - proven passing skills. Great defensively - with intercepting and disrupting passes. He has an amazing 2 pt FG %, at 52%, which great considering he's a small guard. (James Harden's career 2 PT FG % is 51%)

All that offset by the obvious lack of height and weight, and not elite NBA athleticism. Also suspect shot taking from deep at times.

I feel he could be an elite three point shooter, if he just eliminated bad shots / got his body all lined up. It almost seems he makes the 'degree of difficulty" on three pointers harder than they need to be, because he feet aren't perfectly lined up with his body.

How many players of his height/weight are in the league right now?
 
Banning players from social media just won’t fly anymore. In fact, I seem to recall Rysheed Jordan getting into trouble for having someone “ghost tweet” on his behalf when the Lavin ban was still in effect.

But these days, social media is viewed as a critical way for players to build their “brands.” As Beast noted, they start in high school and soak up the love. But they need to be hardened to the realities of what happens at the next level. By the way, I would be shocked if players from other teams aren’t subjected to similar levels of abuse as ours. Not saying it’s right, but the sooner the players learn to deal with this effectively, the better. A good skill to learn no matter what path they take in life moving forward.
 
[quote="SJ_NYC" post=333866]Does he make the league? Whatcha think? In two or three years does he have a contract in the NBA?

Super crafty player, with really nice touch - proven passing skills. Great defensively - with intercepting and disrupting passes. He has an amazing 2 pt FG %, at 52%, which great considering he's a small guard. (James Harden's career 2 PT FG % is 51%)

All that offset by the obvious lack of height and weight, and not elite NBA athleticism. Also suspect shot taking from deep at times.

I feel he could be an elite three point shooter, if he just eliminated bad shots / got his body all lined up. It almost seems he makes the 'degree of difficulty" on three pointers harder than they need to be, because he feet aren't perfectly lined up with his body.

How many players of his height/weight are in the league right now?[/quote]

I do not believe he will get drafted. He is a shooting guard in a PG body. His 3 point shot would have to greatly improve for him to have a shot.
 
If Ja Morant played in NYC and Shamorie Ponds played for Murray State, Morant would be a country wide star, while no one would have ever heard of Ponds. Shamorie has been a great player for St. John's, but he cannot compare to Morant as a point guard. Ponds has a 2G mentality and has benefited from New York exposure. I think he will probably be drafted in the second round, but will never be a viable NBA player.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=333860]Programs and players imo are better served with a prohibition on use of social media, especially Twitter, during the season as some teams do. Lavin to his credit did so for a while, but relented in his last year I believe.

Secondly many programs give the players ongoing training on communication with the media to better respond to reporters questions. As noted by several posters, a few times this year after tough losses, a few guys responded to the press in manner that was cringe worthy. The “we just didn’t bring it tonight” type responses only stoke the press fire. Training could at very least lessen the problem and fanning the flames by some reporters. Perhaps SJU does provide the guidance. The Big East in their freshmen orientation does provide a bit, but very specific team approach with more detail may help.[/quote]


We've got to remember that these are kids whose brains, according to scientists, have not fully developed yet. Despite how much training and coaching they get about public relations, they're still kids. When a group of reporters put microphones and TV cameras in their faces, kids, as Art Linkletter once stated, "will say the dumbest things".
 
[quote="AlBovino" post=333872]Yet there are those who think we should lower the voting age to 16.[/quote]

Imbeciles!!!
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=333870][quote="Paultzman" post=333860]Programs and players imo are better served with a prohibition on use of social media, especially Twitter, during the season as some teams do. Lavin to his credit did so for a while, but relented in his last year I believe.

Secondly many programs give the players ongoing training on communication with the media to better respond to reporters questions. As noted by several posters, a few times this year after tough losses, a few guys responded to the press in manner that was cringe worthy. The “we just didn’t bring it tonight” type responses only stoke the press fire. Training could at very least lessen the problem and fanning the flames by some reporters. Perhaps SJU does provide the guidance. The Big East in their freshmen orientation does provide a bit, but very specific team approach with more detail may help.[/quote]


We've got to remember that these are kids whose brains, according to scientists, have not fully developed yet. Despite how much training and coaching they get about public relations, they're still kids. When a group of reporters put microphones and TV cameras in their faces, kids, as Art Linkletter once stated, "will say the dumbest things".[/quote]

Which is exactly why John Thompson was very careful about letting his kids speak with the media. Of course that was in the day before social media, so coaches had a lot more control over what kids said publicly.
 
I do like the idea of schooling the kids on how to deal with the media. Some public speaking coaching would help too. Kids should know that the reporters are looking for a hot story to engage readers.
 
[quote="Moon Mullen" post=333902]Gone per Instagram page[/quote]

His post doesn't necessarily say that, but we all know he's gone regardless.
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=333870][quote="Paultzman" post=333860]Programs and players imo are better served with a prohibition on use of social media, especially Twitter, during the season as some teams do. Lavin to his credit did so for a while, but relented in his last year I believe.

Secondly many programs give the players ongoing training on communication with the media to better respond to reporters questions. As noted by several posters, a few times this year after tough losses, a few guys responded to the press in manner that was cringe worthy. The “we just didn’t bring it tonight” type responses only stoke the press fire. Training could at very least lessen the problem and fanning the flames by some reporters. Perhaps SJU does provide the guidance. The Big East in their freshmen orientation does provide a bit, but very specific team approach with more detail may help.[/quote]


We've got to remember that these are kids whose brains, according to scientists, have not fully developed yet. Despite how much training and coaching they get about public relations, they're still kids. When a group of reporters put microphones and TV cameras in their faces, kids, as Art Linkletter once stated, "will say the dumbest things".[/quote]
Close but it was actually "Kids say the darndest things".
 
[quote="Moose" post=333953]This thread is going to be longer and more played out than it should[/quote]

The thread title was pretty much all that was needed.
 
[quote="SJUhoopNUT" post=335242]Shamorie making it official on his Insta. Hiring an agent.[/quote]

I think he’s gone regardless but doesn’t the rule in effect his year allow him to hire an agent, go through the draft. and still return if he received a combine invite?
 
[quote="Moose" post=333689][quote="Jack Williams" post=333663][quote="Moose" post=333660][quote="Jack Williams" post=333636]You know what’s good for recruiting? When your star player for the past 3 years tweets this[/quote]

What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]

That’s a good point. I know we aren’t the only fan base with a bad twitter fan base, but it does seem like to be more a problem for us than anyone else. But then again maybe I’m just looking for it more with us.

A big difference I see is a lot of these other programs have coaches that are untouchable. Duke fans are the worst but they wouldn’t dare say a word about K. Our fanbase just spews vitriol towards our staff constantly on twitter. And before people jump down my throat I’m not saying it isn’t deserved sometimes, but like Zaun said the line gets crossed often[/quote]

Next question is are these people on Twitter and such even fans of SJU? Maybe they aren't and just riling up a school that they dont like?[/quote]

Makes you wonder sometimes, there was talk that Ponds told coaches he was coming back. We saw how that turned out.
 
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