Good Luck, Shamorie...
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WillyDilly
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[quote="Catman" post=335292]Wish the kid all the luck in the world but I am not sure that he is ready! We shall see![/quote]
He might not be ready, but one more year of college ball probably won't affect his draft status one way or the other. He had every opportunity on every stage to make a name for himself. And I don't see his game changing or developing all that much between the 2019 draft and the 2020 draft, so might as well go for it now and try to get that money.
He might not be ready, but one more year of college ball probably won't affect his draft status one way or the other. He had every opportunity on every stage to make a name for himself. And I don't see his game changing or developing all that much between the 2019 draft and the 2020 draft, so might as well go for it now and try to get that money.
JohnnyFever
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Though we all know he will probably struggle to stick in the NBA unless he improves, we all wish him the best. Honestly I thought he'd make a huge jump from last yr to this yr but he looked pretty similar IMO. Smart to just go now, because I'm not sure with this staff he was going to get any skill improvement. He will always be remembered especially for the Duke game last year. He gave us 1 game to forget about how awful our season was...he was probably the only real bright spot we had during his time here. The only guy that opponents feared. He is the rare breed that was born and raised in NYC area streets and stayed home to help us. Good luck, Shamorie.
Three year starter, great player, hope he has all the luck in the world going forward. Thanks for some good memories, especially beating Duke and Nova last year in the span of a week. Awesome.
we are sju
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[quote="Moose" post=333660][quote="Jack Williams" post=333636]You know what’s good for recruiting? When your star player for the past 3 years tweets this[/quote]
What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]
I disagree this is the worst fan base out there. We are usually bad but people complain when we have a little success. Just a miserable bunch.
What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]
I disagree this is the worst fan base out there. We are usually bad but people complain when we have a little success. Just a miserable bunch.
Moose
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[quote="we are sju" post=335308][quote="Moose" post=333660][quote="Jack Williams" post=333636]You know what’s good for recruiting? When your star player for the past 3 years tweets this[/quote]
What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]
I disagree this is the worst fan base out there. We are usually bad but people complain when we have a little success. Just a miserable bunch.[/quote]
Thanks
What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]
I disagree this is the worst fan base out there. We are usually bad but people complain when we have a little success. Just a miserable bunch.[/quote]
Thanks
we are sju
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Ponds was fun to watch and played hard. Made tourney because of him and goes right up there with Hatten, Harrison and Hardy IMO as best player on flawed team that dragged us to a tourney. I agree thought taking half off to show he can play point was silly but I thought his issues on D were more from lack of focus than effort. I enjoyed Ponds and hope he gets drafted and able to stick around.
we are sju
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[quote="Moose" post=335309][quote="we are sju" post=335308][quote="Moose" post=333660][quote="Jack Williams" post=333636]You know what’s good for recruiting? When your star player for the past 3 years tweets this[/quote]
What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]
I disagree this is the worst fan base out there. We are usually bad but people complain when we have a little success. Just a miserable bunch.[/quote]
Thanks[/quote]
Should just own it. Like Philly fans do.
Program has stunk for like 35 years and even when we have a tiny taste of success people are miserable. No one has liked a coach since Louie and if these things were around back then there would definitely a fire Louie thread. No one has liked our best player since..... Hatten I guess?
What I want to know is other schools fan bases are a lot worse and they actually win. So do those players react that same way? Or is our team just made up of a certain player.[/quote]
I disagree this is the worst fan base out there. We are usually bad but people complain when we have a little success. Just a miserable bunch.[/quote]
Thanks[/quote]
Should just own it. Like Philly fans do.
Program has stunk for like 35 years and even when we have a tiny taste of success people are miserable. No one has liked a coach since Louie and if these things were around back then there would definitely a fire Louie thread. No one has liked our best player since..... Hatten I guess?
This picture tells a lot about shamorie and just as much about our fan base. This is the player we were all blessed to have watched for 3 years.
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we are sju
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[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=335313]This picture tells a lot about shamorie and just as much about our fan base. This is the player we were all blessed to have watched for 3 years.[/quote]
I think the problem is people are expecting Zion or Barrett type players. Our best player will never be that guy. Going to have warts but someone like Ponds should be appreciated not dissected.
I think the problem is people are expecting Zion or Barrett type players. Our best player will never be that guy. Going to have warts but someone like Ponds should be appreciated not dissected.
JohnnyFever
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Overall I think we have a great fanbase. Large in both number and passion. Remember, fanbase attitudes and perceptions are directly related to the results of the team obviously. If the fanbase is miserable and a "cesspool", it's because the program is a cesspool currently. Do I think many of our fans go too far sometimes? Sure and I'll be the first to include myself at times. But the frustration is from the product. The trolls takeover when things are down and they go away when things are good. It's actually amazing that there are so many fans who still come out after decades and decades of failure. Yes we made the tourney, but we were the last team in and we had an awful OOC schedule. If we had a decent one we would not have been close to being on bubble.
Ponds was one of the few things to look forward to knowing that he could take games over at any second. I look forward to Mack replacing him and if he only stays a yr it will mean he had an amazing season so more power to him.
Ponds was one of the few things to look forward to knowing that he could take games over at any second. I look forward to Mack replacing him and if he only stays a yr it will mean he had an amazing season so more power to him.
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The poor kid needed a PG or at least a competent combo to handle point for 10-15 mpg. Hatten had 3 guys that could do that. Hardy had Boothe. Scoring PGs NEED a PG underneath them. We never had a worst backup PG in all my years as a fan. For that reason I think it would be wise of him to return and play with Mack.
Ponds was awesome. I don’t think his soph season will be matched for a long time if ever. Local kid that took a chance on us and a coach from Brooklyn. Frustrating end but he will be remembered as a great once the pain wears off. Hatten was AWFUL his only tournament game (12-33 from the field, 1-3 from the line, only 1 assist) and we remember him fondly.
Maybe the spacing in the NBA will help mitigate his lack of athleticism. Few guys are more skilled. I’ll be cheering for him.
Ponds was awesome. I don’t think his soph season will be matched for a long time if ever. Local kid that took a chance on us and a coach from Brooklyn. Frustrating end but he will be remembered as a great once the pain wears off. Hatten was AWFUL his only tournament game (12-33 from the field, 1-3 from the line, only 1 assist) and we remember him fondly.
Maybe the spacing in the NBA will help mitigate his lack of athleticism. Few guys are more skilled. I’ll be cheering for him.
beast of the east
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I was watching TT play last night. In one set Owens was wide open at the top of the key from three. No one came out to guard him, and dared him to shoot. Three or four separate times he looked at the hoop with thoughts of firing it up, but exercised restraint where the lack of would probably had gotten him a tongue lashing and a seat on the bench. Last season he would have fired away
IMO, as our offense went dead, Shamorie took far too many ill advised shots both far from the basket and in taking it to the hole. As a freshman I thought he displayed an incredible knack to find the slightest opening on the way to the basket for an easy layup. As a junior, during our worst stretch, which was almost 20 games to close the season, he didn't appear to exercise the discipline that would earn him a solid late round 1st round NBA draft choice. Of course we don't know what was said in practice, but it appeared during games that there was no negative ramification for making bad decisions.
Ponds will go, but for an NBA team to burn a draft pick on him they will have to look past the long three point attempts with plenty of time on the clock, the forced drives into traffic, the too many nights when he wasn't the best player on the floor. In short, his highlight reel would be sure fire first round, but the same is true for most very good college players.
Wish him the best, and he was the brightest spot on our team for three seasons. Still I believe he had the potential to be better, more efficient as a scorer and distributor.
IMO, as our offense went dead, Shamorie took far too many ill advised shots both far from the basket and in taking it to the hole. As a freshman I thought he displayed an incredible knack to find the slightest opening on the way to the basket for an easy layup. As a junior, during our worst stretch, which was almost 20 games to close the season, he didn't appear to exercise the discipline that would earn him a solid late round 1st round NBA draft choice. Of course we don't know what was said in practice, but it appeared during games that there was no negative ramification for making bad decisions.
Ponds will go, but for an NBA team to burn a draft pick on him they will have to look past the long three point attempts with plenty of time on the clock, the forced drives into traffic, the too many nights when he wasn't the best player on the floor. In short, his highlight reel would be sure fire first round, but the same is true for most very good college players.
Wish him the best, and he was the brightest spot on our team for three seasons. Still I believe he had the potential to be better, more efficient as a scorer and distributor.
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JohnnyFever
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=335333]I was watching TT play last night. In one set Owens was wide open at the top of the key from three. No one came out to guard him, and dared him to shoot. Three or four separate times he looked at the hoop with thoughts of firing it up, but exercised restraint where the lack of would probably had gotten him a tongue lashing and a seat on the bench.
IMO, as our offense went dead, Shamorie took far too many ill advised shots both far from the basket and in taking it to the hole. As a freshman I thought he displayed an incredible knack to find the slightest opening on the way to the basket for an easy layup. As a junior, during our worst stretch, which was almost 20 games to close the season, he didn't appear to exercise the discipline that would earn him a solid late round 1st round NBA draft choice. Of course we don't know what was said in practice, but it appeared during games that there was no negative ramification for making bad decisions.
Ponds will go, but for an NBA team to burn a draft pick on him they will have to look past the long three point attempts with plenty of time on the clock, the forced drives into traffic, the too many nights when he wasn't the best player on the floor. In short, his highlight reel would be sure fire first round, but the same is true for most very good college players.
Wish him the best, and he was the brightest spot on our team for three seasons. Still I believe he had the potential to be better, more efficient as a scorer and distributor.[/quote]
Agree Beast...coaching.
IMO, as our offense went dead, Shamorie took far too many ill advised shots both far from the basket and in taking it to the hole. As a freshman I thought he displayed an incredible knack to find the slightest opening on the way to the basket for an easy layup. As a junior, during our worst stretch, which was almost 20 games to close the season, he didn't appear to exercise the discipline that would earn him a solid late round 1st round NBA draft choice. Of course we don't know what was said in practice, but it appeared during games that there was no negative ramification for making bad decisions.
Ponds will go, but for an NBA team to burn a draft pick on him they will have to look past the long three point attempts with plenty of time on the clock, the forced drives into traffic, the too many nights when he wasn't the best player on the floor. In short, his highlight reel would be sure fire first round, but the same is true for most very good college players.
Wish him the best, and he was the brightest spot on our team for three seasons. Still I believe he had the potential to be better, more efficient as a scorer and distributor.[/quote]
Agree Beast...coaching.
[quote="we are sju" post=335315][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=335313]This picture tells a lot about shamorie and just as much about our fan base. This is the player we were all blessed to have watched for 3 years.[/quote]
I think the problem is people are expecting Zion or Barrett type players. Our best player will never be that guy. Going to have warts but someone like Ponds should be appreciated not dissected.[/quote]
Yeah, that's what our fan base is expecting.... :dry:
I think the problem is people are expecting Zion or Barrett type players. Our best player will never be that guy. Going to have warts but someone like Ponds should be appreciated not dissected.[/quote]
Yeah, that's what our fan base is expecting.... :dry:
we are sju
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=335340][quote="we are sju" post=335315][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=335313]This picture tells a lot about shamorie and just as much about our fan base. This is the player we were all blessed to have watched for 3 years.[/quote]
I think the problem is people are expecting Zion or Barrett type players. Our best player will never be that guy. Going to have warts but someone like Ponds should be appreciated not dissected.[/quote]
Yeah, that's what our fan base is expecting.... :dry:[/quote]
People whined and bitched about Harrison and Ponds. Not sure what our "fan" base s expecting. Maybe just like to whine.
I think the problem is people are expecting Zion or Barrett type players. Our best player will never be that guy. Going to have warts but someone like Ponds should be appreciated not dissected.[/quote]
Yeah, that's what our fan base is expecting.... :dry:[/quote]
People whined and bitched about Harrison and Ponds. Not sure what our "fan" base s expecting. Maybe just like to whine.
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